[distressed_romeo]

Originally Posted by Metal Ken

Nergal is your god.

Agreed. David, turn in your horns...

Worst: All that whining emo/metalcore crap. Uli John Roth (there was an awesome description of his vocals at dinosaurrockguitar.com; 'A drunk homeless Japanese man...'). The guys from Blink 182. Most rappers (especially white teenagers trying to rap).

[DelfinoPie]

Originally Posted by shadowgenesis

Serj Tankian - i think he's one of the most versatile singers as far as his range of sounds. If you check out their first album, he goes from insane screams to whispering falsetto to belting high notes. And if you know anything about singing, it's fucking hard as hell to move around like that fluently.

I know absolutely nothing about singing, maybe thats why I don't like Serj or appreciate his 'style'. On the other hand, I know what sounds good and to me Serj does not...by a long shot.

[zimbloth]

Originally Posted by Korbain

in no particular order:

best:
Corey Taylor (Stone Sour/Slipknot)
Jonathan Davis (Korn)
Till Linderman (Rammstein)
Kurt cobain.
Maynard (tool/APC)
Phil Anselmo (pantera)
Trent Renzor (Nine Inch nails)
Aaron Lewis (staind)

Worst:
anything emo, rap or death metal (rar roar grrr i can't understand you metal singing i mean)

Jonathan Davis? How can you bash metal singing, but be okay with Jon's tone-deaf incoherant moaning? At least cookie monster growls just fit in the mix and can be ignored, whereas Davis sounds like a baby seal being tortured by a cattle prod.

[distressed_romeo]

Originally Posted by zimbloth

Jonathan Davis? How can you bash metal singing, but be okay with Jon's tone-deaf incoherant moaning? At least cookie monster growls just fit in the mix and can be ignored, whereas Davis sounds like a baby seal being tortured by a cattle prod.

Good post.

[shadowgenesis]

*shrug*
i don't see jon davis being tone-deaf by any means. I was just listening to untouchable last night and enjoying the way he tracks multiple vocals, overlapping choir-ish bell tones with shouting lyrics.

Originally Posted by David

speaking of solo albums, am I the only one who thought LaBrie's solo album was absolute genious?

yes?
Found it kinda dry and repetitive. Thought the guitarist's riffing got really boring after a while. I genuinely liked the first four tracks and then appreciated some of the other stuff. But i didn't find it to be genius. Not bad by any means, but not genius.

[zimbloth]

Originally Posted by shadowgenesis

*shrug*
i don't see jon davis being tone-deaf by any means. I was just listening to untouchable last night and enjoying the way he tracks multiple vocals, overlapping choir-ish bell tones with shouting lyrics.

Erm, listen to Jon singing in their first album. His voice was odd, but his moans and screams sounded healthy. In their newer material, his voice is clearly shot (hes admitted all that screaming and smoking ruined his vocal chords in an interview, this isnt just my opinion), and it REALLY sounds like it. I don't think he can sing worth shit.

Have you heard their acoustic performance? His awful voice was exposed even more in that environment, it was so bad that people were actually laughing outloud at him.

[Samer]

What do you guys think of Timo Kotipelto (Stratovarious) some people live his voice, some hate it, i love it. I think he is great!

[Korbain]

Originally Posted by zimbloth

Jonathan Davis? How can you bash metal singing, but be okay with Jon's tone-deaf incoherant moaning? At least cookie monster growls just fit in the mix and can be ignored, whereas Davis sounds like a baby seal being tortured by a cattle prod.

i can bash metal singing because its my oppinion. Even if you don't like jonathan davis or whatever, theres no doubt he's a more talented singer. Theres a different between taste and actual talent. If Jon Davis doesn't want to growl, mumble and roar low unhearable bassy lyrics, thats his choice lol. i'd rather actually listen to music and be able to understand the lyrics, and if i'd say your 80% full of shit if you think you can understand every word those "singers" are singing lol. and i don't see where you pulled the shit from the acoustic set of people laughing at him? lol were you dreaming or smoking some of the green.

[shadowgenesis]

I haven't heard that acoustic thing yet. I have dial-up at home and here at school (where i browse the site during computer science class) i don't have headphones to discretely listne to anything.

I'm not saying Jon's a great singer and I know that long-term, that kind of singing will inevitably destroy your vocal chords. But sounding bad and being tone-deaf aren't one and the same. Their are plenty of people who can hold a pitch and still sound absolutely aweful doing it.

i dunno. i wouldn't say from a technical stand point that he's a good singer, but I like what he does. There are a lot of people i can say that about and personally i value creativity and style over technical ability any day. That's why i like Korn and a lot of other bands that are "no Dream Theater".

[Samer]

I dont mind death metal or black metal vocals at all, i would rather have a clean singer with heavy music (kind of like evergray) but i am fine with real death metal vocals, i just dont like hard core, or metalcore vocals, like kill switch or inflames.