Metal in the current world

WrathOfGirth · 08-19-2009, 09:38 AM

Where the hell is it mainly at?
The UK seems to fade in and out with it, but that's most bands around the UK are now pop punk / indie bands. You'll still have your metal gigs, but it's not as big as it used to be here.

I'm not to sure what the US is like for it, or the rest of Europe.
I'm from South Wales, the only half decent places to have metal gigs so far is Newport, Swansea + Cardiff

Would be good if people could put input or the scene around where they live.
I'm finding it starts dying, then coming back and it's gone again. Bit of a strange one over here, but then it's down to the promoters a lot of the time as the main people who go to gigs are scene kiddies that want to see Metro Station and crap like that haha.

lucasreis · 08-19-2009, 09:49 AM

And this is why I actually liked the new metal era. It had a lot of shit, that´s true, but some of the fans actually got interested in metal because of it, metal was kinda "hot" at that time, event though most of it was bogus, it was good for the genre.

I ....ing DESPISE EVERY INDIE ACT from the 2000´s. It´s ridiculous, it´s shit, I can´t understand the appeal of it. Indie + Emo are Full of Fail to me and I seriously can´t understand why people like stuff like Yeah Yeah Yeahs and The Killers. Times are bad not just for metal, but for good music in general, thank god the underground exists (and sites like sevenstring.org) to save us.

WrathOfGirth · 08-19-2009, 10:04 AM

Yeah this is a great site, shows that there's still hope yet haha
Over here, even the underground is dying down.
I'm moving to London next here and apparently over there it's even worse, I'll see though.

What's it like over in Brazil for the metal scene?

Konfyouzd · 08-19-2009, 10:05 AM

most of the metal i listen to comes from Europe somewhere... Nordic region

mattofvengeance · 08-19-2009, 10:20 AM

The largest percentage of music I listen to would be from Sweden, Massachusetts, or California.

Sweden- Meshuggah, In Flames, At the Gates, Unleashed, Bloodbath, Opeth, Carnal Forge, Darkane, Soilwork, Dark Tranquility, Zonaria, Hypocrisy

Massachusetts- Killswitch Engage, All That Remains, Unearth, Shadows Fall (mostly old), Diecast, The Red Chord

California- All Shall Perish, Winds of Plague, Megadeth, Metallica, Testament, Slayer, As Blood Runs Black, Machine Head, Divine Heresy, Faith No More, Mr. Bungle, Tomahawk, Avenged Sevenfold, The Faceless, As I Lay Dying, Austrian Death Machine

Konfyouzd · 08-19-2009, 10:26 AM

There's a ton of good norwegian and finnish bands too. I just don't know which are which

Hawkevil · 08-19-2009, 10:33 AM

It'll be back dont worry haha...

Just listen to 'The Metal' by 'Tenacious D'...

Konfyouzd · 08-19-2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawkevil

It'll be back dont worry haha...

Just listen to 'The Metal' by 'Tenacious D'...

"you cannot kill the metal"

WrathOfGirth · 08-19-2009, 10:46 AM

Haha, ah damn such a good tune. One of the funkiest riff's I think I could possibly think of from there.

Let's hope that the next decade it'll all change for the better.
Any idea what the underground scene is like in Nottingham Hawkevil?

mattofvengeance · 08-19-2009, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Konfyouzd

There's a ton of good norwegian and finnish bands too. I just don't know which are which

Here ya go

Norway- Emperor, Mayhem, Burzum, Dimmu Borgir, Immortal, Arcturus, Asmegin, Satyricon

Finland- Children of Bodom, Nightwish, Apocalyptica, Sonata Arctica, Ensiferum, Mors Principium Est, Finntroll

I'm sure I'm missing a few, but those are what I've got off the top of my head.

Hawkevil · 08-19-2009, 10:51 AM

I don't really go to see bands much but from what I know there is quite a few punk bands...

I really want to get gigging some of my music and mix it up a bit haha...

It's just really difficult to find an awesome drummer...

mattofvengeance · 08-19-2009, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawkevil

I don't really go to see bands much but from what I know there is quite a few punk bands...

I really want to get gigging some of my music and mix it up a bit haha...

It's just really difficult to find an awesome drummer...

Tell me about it. We've been searching for one for months.

Hawkevil · 08-19-2009, 11:00 AM

I'm so glad we have things like Superior Drummer haha...

Konfyouzd · 08-19-2009, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattofvengeance

Here ya go

Norway- Emperor, Mayhem, Burzum, Dimmu Borgir, Immortal, Arcturus, Asmegin, Satyricon

Finland- Children of Bodom, Nightwish, Apocalyptica, Sonata Arctica, Ensiferum, Mors Principium Est, Finntroll

I'm sure I'm missing a few, but those are what I've got off the top of my head.

where's naglfar from? (i never know if i spell that right)

and california also gave us abysmal dawn

WrathOfGirth · 08-19-2009, 11:14 AM

Drummers are a royal pain in the ass. Recently started learning drums hoping to one day be one of the many reliable drummers that people search for.
A global thing then the lack of good committed drummers?

Suggestion, if you've got a load of your own material, why not self produce some of your tracks?
That's what I'm doing at the moment, I've got all the MIDI for the drums down, I'm just searching for a better drum program. Thinking about getting Metal Foundry, I think that's what it's called. Same developer as EZDrummer.
You just want to humanize the sounds if you have the option to make it sound more real.

Konfyouzd · 08-19-2009, 11:19 AM

^ i'm trying self-producing thing right now.

it's cool because you do what you wanna do at all times, but it gets really frustrating with having to play all the instruments and i'm absolutely horrible with recording software (i think that's where the bulk of my frustration lies i probably would have wanted to learn extra instruments anyway to be honest) because every time i sit down and try to record something someone wants to bug me...

mattofvengeance · 08-19-2009, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konfyouzd

where's naglfar from? (i never know if i spell that right)

and california also gave us abysmal dawn

Naglfar is from Sweden

JohnIce · 08-19-2009, 11:29 AM

It's always a bit surreal to hear about people who don't have much of a metal scene, when you live in Sweden :p Most clubs or venues that I've played, I've shared the bill with almost exclusively metal or hardcore bands. And I've never had to play with a bad drummer

Konfyouzd · 08-19-2009, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattofvengeance

Naglfar is from Sweden

yea... all the good bands come from europe, then (IMO

)

JohnIce · 08-19-2009, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattofvengeance

Sweden- Meshuggah, In Flames, At the Gates, Unleashed, Bloodbath, Opeth, Carnal Forge, Darkane, Soilwork, Dark Tranquility, Zonaria, Hypocrisy

I've opened for Zonaria, didn't know they were known outside Sweden...

mattofvengeance · 08-19-2009, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnIce

I've opened for Zonaria, didn't know they were known outside Sweden...

Yeah dude, I love that band. Unfortunately, I only have one album, Infamy and the Breed. I can't seem to locate The Cancer Empire.

WrathOfGirth · 08-19-2009, 11:41 AM

Sweden sounds pretty interesting.
Know of any major festivals there?

Might go on holiday there sometime if possible.
Meshuggah, At The Gates and Opeth are awesome as well. Three of my favourite bands.
I haven't heard of most of the others that were mentioned from there

mattofvengeance · 08-19-2009, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WrathOfGirth

Sweden sounds pretty interesting.
Know of any major festivals there?

Might go on holiday there sometime if possible.
Meshuggah, At The Gates and Opeth are awesome as well. Three of my favourite bands.
I haven't heard of most of the others that were mentioned from there

This past year, they had the Metal Town Festival and the Sweden Rock Festival. Check out these lineups!

Metaltown- All That Remains, Children of Bodom, Evergrey, Meshuggah, My Dying Bride, Napalm Death, Opeth, Slipknot, Trivium, The Haunted, and more.

Sweden Rock- Amon Amarth, Dream Theater, Europe, Foreigner, Flogging Molly, Hammerfall, Heaven and Hell, In Flames, Journey, Soilwork, Unleashed, and more

Konfyouzd · 08-19-2009, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WrathOfGirth

Sweden sounds pretty interesting.
Know of any major festivals there?

Might go on holiday there sometime if possible.
Meshuggah, At The Gates and Opeth are awesome as well. Three of my favourite bands.
I haven't heard of most of the others that were mentioned from there

i'm actually surprised those weren't mentioned already

JohnIce · 08-19-2009, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WrathOfGirth

Sweden sounds pretty interesting.
Know of any major festivals there?

Might go on holiday there sometime if possible.
Meshuggah, At The Gates and Opeth are awesome as well. Three of my favourite bands.
I haven't heard of most of the others that were mentioned from there

Sweden Rock Festival is the biggest festival in Sweden, which usually draws some of the legends (such as Heaven & Hell, Aerosmith and Priest, the last few years), aswell as most european metal bands and quite a few american ones.

The other big festivals like Hultsfred and Peace & Love draw a shitload of metal bands too, but they're more diverse. Then there's smaller ones, like Metaltown, Gates of Metal etc. Google them and see if you find anything interesting.

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08-19-2009, 09:38 AM	#1
WrathOfGirth NOAD Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 100 Thanked: 5 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Metal in the current world Where the hell is it mainly at? The UK seems to fade in and out with it, but that's most bands around the UK are now pop punk / indie bands. You'll still have your metal gigs, but it's not as big as it used to be here. I'm not to sure what the US is like for it, or the rest of Europe. I'm from South Wales, the only half decent places to have metal gigs so far is Newport, Swansea + Cardiff Would be good if people could put input or the scene around where they live. I'm finding it starts dying, then coming back and it's gone again. Bit of a strange one over here, but then it's down to the promoters a lot of the time as the main people who go to gigs are scene kiddies that want to see Metro Station and crap like that haha.

08-19-2009, 10:05 AM	#4
Konfyouzd Dread-I Master Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mars Posts: 15,457 Thanked: 191 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	most of the metal i listen to comes from Europe somewhere... Nordic region "... and on either side of the river was the tree of life. The leaves of this tree were for the healing of nations." "He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle and the herb for the service of man." "Lifes too short to hate Floyd Roses."

08-19-2009, 10:26 AM	#6
Konfyouzd Dread-I Master Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mars Posts: 15,457 Thanked: 191 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	There's a ton of good norwegian and finnish bands too. I just don't know which are which "... and on either side of the river was the tree of life. The leaves of this tree were for the healing of nations." "He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle and the herb for the service of man." "Lifes too short to hate Floyd Roses."

08-19-2009, 10:33 AM	#7
Hawkevil Toast Wiper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 424 Thanked: 19 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It'll be back dont worry haha... Just listen to 'The Metal' by 'Tenacious D'... My Songs: www.myspace.com/christranmer2009 My Covers: http://www.youtube.com/user/hawkevil2006

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08-19-2009, 09:49 AM	#2
lucasreis siersacul Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: São Paulo, Brazil Posts: 1,391 Thanked: 16 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	And this is why I actually liked the new metal era. It had a lot of shit, that´s true, but some of the fans actually got interested in metal because of it, metal was kinda "hot" at that time, event though most of it was bogus, it was good for the genre. I ....ing DESPISE EVERY INDIE ACT from the 2000´s. It´s ridiculous, it´s shit, I can´t understand the appeal of it. Indie + Emo are Full of Fail to me and I seriously can´t understand why people like stuff like Yeah Yeah Yeahs and The Killers. Times are bad not just for metal, but for good music in general, thank god the underground exists (and sites like sevenstring.org) to save us.

08-19-2009, 10:04 AM	#3
WrathOfGirth NOAD Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 100 Thanked: 5 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah this is a great site, shows that there's still hope yet haha Over here, even the underground is dying down. I'm moving to London next here and apparently over there it's even worse, I'll see though. What's it like over in Brazil for the metal scene?

08-19-2009, 10:20 AM	#5
mattofvengeance boots2asses Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 4,712 Thanked: 103 Feedback Score: 17 reviews	The largest percentage of music I listen to would be from Sweden, Massachusetts, or California. Sweden- Meshuggah, In Flames, At the Gates, Unleashed, Bloodbath, Opeth, Carnal Forge, Darkane, Soilwork, Dark Tranquility, Zonaria, Hypocrisy Massachusetts- Killswitch Engage, All That Remains, Unearth, Shadows Fall (mostly old), Diecast, The Red Chord California- All Shall Perish, Winds of Plague, Megadeth, Metallica, Testament, Slayer, As Blood Runs Black, Machine Head, Divine Heresy, Faith No More, Mr. Bungle, Tomahawk, Avenged Sevenfold, The Faceless, As I Lay Dying, Austrian Death Machine

08-19-2009, 10:46 AM	#9
WrathOfGirth NOAD Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 100 Thanked: 5 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Haha, ah damn such a good tune. One of the funkiest riff's I think I could possibly think of from there. Let's hope that the next decade it'll all change for the better. Any idea what the underground scene is like in Nottingham Hawkevil?

08-19-2009, 10:51 AM	#11
Hawkevil Toast Wiper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 424 Thanked: 19 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I don't really go to see bands much but from what I know there is quite a few punk bands... I really want to get gigging some of my music and mix it up a bit haha... It's just really difficult to find an awesome drummer... My Songs: www.myspace.com/christranmer2009 My Covers: http://www.youtube.com/user/hawkevil2006

08-19-2009, 11:00 AM	#13
Hawkevil Toast Wiper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 424 Thanked: 19 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm so glad we have things like Superior Drummer haha... My Songs: www.myspace.com/christranmer2009 My Covers: http://www.youtube.com/user/hawkevil2006

08-19-2009, 11:14 AM	#15
WrathOfGirth NOAD Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 100 Thanked: 5 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Drummers are a royal pain in the ass. Recently started learning drums hoping to one day be one of the many reliable drummers that people search for. A global thing then the lack of good committed drummers? Suggestion, if you've got a load of your own material, why not self produce some of your tracks? That's what I'm doing at the moment, I've got all the MIDI for the drums down, I'm just searching for a better drum program. Thinking about getting Metal Foundry, I think that's what it's called. Same developer as EZDrummer. You just want to humanize the sounds if you have the option to make it sound more real.

08-19-2009, 11:19 AM	#16
Konfyouzd Dread-I Master Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mars Posts: 15,457 Thanked: 191 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	^ i'm trying self-producing thing right now. it's cool because you do what you wanna do at all times, but it gets really frustrating with having to play all the instruments and i'm absolutely horrible with recording software (i think that's where the bulk of my frustration lies i probably would have wanted to learn extra instruments anyway to be honest) because every time i sit down and try to record something someone wants to bug me... "... and on either side of the river was the tree of life. The leaves of this tree were for the healing of nations." "He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle and the herb for the service of man." "Lifes too short to hate Floyd Roses."

08-19-2009, 11:29 AM	#18
JohnIce Rhinestone Cowboy Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sweden Posts: 3,437 Thanked: 133 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It's always a bit surreal to hear about people who don't have much of a metal scene, when you live in Sweden :p Most clubs or venues that I've played, I've shared the bill with almost exclusively metal or hardcore bands. And I've never had to play with a bad drummer Rhinestone - Funky hard rock on 7-strings!

08-19-2009, 11:41 AM	#22
WrathOfGirth NOAD Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 100 Thanked: 5 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sweden sounds pretty interesting. Know of any major festivals there? Might go on holiday there sometime if possible. Meshuggah, At The Gates and Opeth are awesome as well. Three of my favourite bands. I haven't heard of most of the others that were mentioned from there

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