Born Of Osiris Vs Veil Of Maya

Imdeathcore · 03-12-2009, 01:30 PM

Who Is Better ''IN YOUR OPINION''

It's not a competition, it's music I know But for you Who Is Better?

Misanthropy · 03-12-2009, 01:42 PM

Dam tough choice, veil have some sweet ass riffs, but born have some epic breakdowns with those synths.
I would say veil of maya.

lobee · 03-12-2009, 01:50 PM

Do you think art forums have threads like, "Da Vinci Vs Michelangelo who is better?"

It's not a competition, it's music. You either like it or you don't.

Randy · 03-12-2009, 01:51 PM

Born of Osiris is a lot more straight forward... Veil of Maya has significantly more nuance and you can hear some really diverse influences in between the prerequisite chunky-chunky->noodle-noodle->chunky-chunk format.

Veil of Maya FTW.

Tommy Van Dyke · 03-12-2009, 01:57 PM

Well based on Veil of Maya's Common Man's Collapse vs Born of Osiris' The New Reign, I'd say the guitars sound way more hi-fi on The Common Man's Collapse and the riffing is much more intricate and the material in general sounds way more technical. With that said, I think the compositions on The New Reign are more cohesive songs and more memorable to me then on the Common Man's Collapse. It feels like the Common Man's Collapse was rushed and they threw a lot of filler on the album. Also I really hate the vocals on Veil of Maya, not that I like Born Of Osiris' vocalist much either but to me at least Born of Osiris's vocalist is more passable (I kind of hate most metal screamo vocals anyway). Both bands kick a lot of ass, but I have to give the nod to Born of Osiris, and I can't wait to hear new material from both of them!

Scar Symmetry · 03-12-2009, 02:00 PM

I've seen Born of Osiris live and they are ....ing tight, can't speak for Veil of Maya. I don't think I prefer either per se, I know they are similar, but when I asked Born of Osiris about Veil of Maya they said they had the utmost respect for them and what they were doing, and didn't want anyone to think of them in the same way because they are two seperate bands.

Imdeathcore · 03-12-2009, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lobee

Do you think art forums have threads like, "Da Vinci Vs Michelangelo who is better?"

It's not a competition, it's music. You either like it or you don't.

Yeah! ahahahahah cool observation I edited My post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Misanthropy

Dam tough choice, veil have some sweet ass riffs, but born have some epic breakdowns with those synths.
I would say veil of maya.

Yeah! it's dificult:S But for me veil of maya too.

but

Born of Osiris are very good too!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy Van Dyke

Well based on Veil of Maya's Common Man's Collapse vs Born of Osiris' The New Reign, I'd say the guitars sound way more hi-fi on The Common Man's Collapse and the riffing is much more intricate and the material in general sounds way more technical. With that said, I think the compositions on The New Reign are more cohesive songs and more memorable to me then on the Common Man's Collapse. It feels like the Common Man's Collapse was rushed and they threw a lot of filler on the album. Also I really hate the vocals on Veil of Maya, not that I like Born Of Osiris' vocalist much either but to me at least Born of Osiris's vocalist is more passable (I kind of hate most metal screamo vocals anyway). Both bands kick a lot of ass, but I have to give the nod to Born of Osiris, and I can't wait to hear new material from both of them!

Yeahh i can`t wait for new material

will be amazing!

Triple7 · 03-12-2009, 03:37 PM

Yea I do agree this is a difficult decision, over all I would have to say Veil Of Maya simply for the reason that they write longer songs. I know that sounds stupid but both band are awesome and I love each of their debut cds, but one thing I am not a fan of is a metal cd under a half hour long. I know Born Of Osiris' longest song on their cd is like 3:30, I can't say how long Veil of Maya's cd is but I know it is a good amount longer than Born Of Osiris. Either way I am looking foward to new material from both bands!

GorillaSalsa · 03-12-2009, 03:45 PM

I love both, but Veil Of Maya has better breakdowns and rhythms.

I do have a soft spot for Born Of Osiris' synths, though.

fallenz3ro · 03-12-2009, 03:48 PM

I vote for veil. They do have a lot of breakdowns, but I feel like they are more technical, and their songs flow much better. BOO has to many songs where the structure is "riff...pause...riff...pause...riff...pause...riff ...pause...etc."

AgentWalrus · 03-12-2009, 03:50 PM

0000000-00000000-------00000000000-----0-0-0-00000000-00----000 = born of osiris

veil is better

gatesofcarnage · 03-12-2009, 03:51 PM

Veil every time, they are much more interesting than BOO.

Imdeathcore · 03-12-2009, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AgentWalrus

0000000-00000000-------00000000000-----0-0-0-00000000-00----000 = born of osiris

veil is better

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

YEAH! it`s

CynicEidolon · 03-12-2009, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AgentWalrus

0000000-00000000-------00000000000-----0-0-0-00000000-00----000 = born of osiris

veil is better

I thought that was that one "Core" bands song...

british beef · 03-12-2009, 05:01 PM

It's easy... After the Burial

ridealot100 · 03-12-2009, 08:37 PM

veil. hands down. Seen them both live a few times (They are both local) and Ide have to say veil takes it.

Born of Osiris was alot better before they got signed to sumerian and changed their name from Rosecrance to Born of osiris. They used to have a few off little bits on their cds that they took off for the studio versions wich was a bummer. Ronnie is also not that great of a live vocalist wich is a bummer.

Veil has always been a favorite! Their guitarist is unreal clean live. He just hits every note spot on and since its only him playing he makes great use of loops to keep everyhting "big" They are truely a joy to watch live. haha

Veil Veil Veil!

And after the burial is boring IMO

JoshuaLogan · 03-12-2009, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ridealot100

And after the burial is boring IMO

fail

gatesofcarnage · 03-12-2009, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshuaLogan

fail

definatley

errnestoo · 03-12-2009, 09:32 PM

thats easy, veil of maya

budda · 03-12-2009, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by british beef

It's easy... After the Burial

is it bad that I think this is the only right answer posted in this thread? don't answer that.

after about 2 songs, BOO and VOM sound pretty much the same.

i've seen 'em both live, within the last month and a half.

good bands, nice guys, but pretty samey. not that i mind, i just cant listen to one then the other right after.

Scar Symmetry · 03-13-2009, 04:25 AM

I find After The Burial to be hit and miss.

their really heavy tech groove bits = win.
their really gay harmonised riffs = fail.

Imdeathcore · 03-13-2009, 01:31 PM

after the burial is a good band but veil of maya is better. easy

Anthony · 03-13-2009, 01:37 PM

VOM>ATB>BOO

I really like all of them though.

Lucas Crowe · 03-13-2009, 06:26 PM

Veil of Maya.

MLI · 05-13-2009, 07:28 PM

Sorry if I'm bumping this, but I'm new and these are two of my favorite bands, so...

Veil is better. Their stuff flows better riff to riff, their guitars are much punchier and present, the vocalist is better and has more variety, and the breakdowns are better. The only thing BoO has that veil doesn't is the keyboard, but that's not always too great.

Sometimes Born go too far with their "offness". In my opinion, the best breakdowns find a good balance between denying the listeners what they anticipate, and giving the listenes what they anticipate. Too much of either one and it's either unsatisfying, or boring and predictable, respectively.

Both sounded good life. When veil got to the climax, so to speak, of Pillars, it was just...*shudder*...

Nonetheless, I think both bands are very good (not too sure about BoO's new song, check it out if you haven't) and are certainly different enough that I can enjoy both in close succession.

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03-12-2009, 01:30 PM	#1
Imdeathcore noob bear Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Chilpancingo, Guerrero, Mexico Posts: 254 Thanked: 6 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Born Of Osiris Vs Veil Of Maya Who Is Better ''IN YOUR OPINION'' It's not a competition, it's music I know But for you Who Is Better?

03-12-2009, 01:42 PM	#2
Misanthropy Kebab Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: London Posts: 305 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Dam tough choice, veil have some sweet ass riffs, but born have some epic breakdowns with those synths. I would say veil of maya. Youtube Channel: http://uk.youtube.com/DeathcoreDude -Removal of the eyes gives my heart a saddened chill i preserve them in formaldehyde to gaze upon at will - TBDM

03-12-2009, 01:50 PM	#3
lobee Real. Groggy. Human. Join Date: May 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,085 Thanked: 15 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Do you think art forums have threads like, "Da Vinci Vs Michelangelo who is better?" It's not a competition, it's music. You either like it or you don't. AnthonyPuddu likes this. Dislike

03-12-2009, 01:51 PM	#4
Randy DAN OUDA DAN • Super Moderator • Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Electric City, NY Posts: 15,966 Thanked: 165 Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Born of Osiris is a lot more straight forward... Veil of Maya has significantly more nuance and you can hear some really diverse influences in between the prerequisite chunky-chunky->noodle-noodle->chunky-chunk format. Veil of Maya FTW. "Can we pull back the veil of static and reach in to the source of all being? Behind this curtain of patterns, this random pattern generator. So clever. Right here in every home, watching us from a one-sided mirror." Argbadh - RHLC©

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03-12-2009, 01:57 PM	#5
Tommy Van Dyke ss.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Somerville, MA Posts: 95 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well based on Veil of Maya's Common Man's Collapse vs Born of Osiris' The New Reign, I'd say the guitars sound way more hi-fi on The Common Man's Collapse and the riffing is much more intricate and the material in general sounds way more technical. With that said, I think the compositions on The New Reign are more cohesive songs and more memorable to me then on the Common Man's Collapse. It feels like the Common Man's Collapse was rushed and they threw a lot of filler on the album. Also I really hate the vocals on Veil of Maya, not that I like Born Of Osiris' vocalist much either but to me at least Born of Osiris's vocalist is more passable (I kind of hate most metal screamo vocals anyway). Both bands kick a lot of ass, but I have to give the nod to Born of Osiris, and I can't wait to hear new material from both of them!

03-12-2009, 02:00 PM	#6
Scar Symmetry Ex Whiny Bitch Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 15,686 Thanked: 377 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I've seen Born of Osiris live and they are ....ing tight, can't speak for Veil of Maya. I don't think I prefer either per se, I know they are similar, but when I asked Born of Osiris about Veil of Maya they said they had the utmost respect for them and what they were doing, and didn't want anyone to think of them in the same way because they are two seperate bands. Ever noticed how some people are real dicks on the internet, but when they post something involving their band, they make the effort to be nice? Funny that...

03-12-2009, 03:37 PM	#8
Triple7 The Decepticon Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Yorktown,NY Posts: 3,092 Thanked: 43 Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Yea I do agree this is a difficult decision, over all I would have to say Veil Of Maya simply for the reason that they write longer songs. I know that sounds stupid but both band are awesome and I love each of their debut cds, but one thing I am not a fan of is a metal cd under a half hour long. I know Born Of Osiris' longest song on their cd is like 3:30, I can't say how long Veil of Maya's cd is but I know it is a good amount longer than Born Of Osiris. Either way I am looking foward to new material from both bands!

03-12-2009, 03:45 PM	#9
GorillaSalsa SS.org Regular Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Internet Posts: 363 Thanked: 7 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I love both, but Veil Of Maya has better breakdowns and rhythms. I do have a soft spot for Born Of Osiris' synths, though.

03-12-2009, 03:48 PM	#10
fallenz3ro ss.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 259 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I vote for veil. They do have a lot of breakdowns, but I feel like they are more technical, and their songs flow much better. BOO has to many songs where the structure is "riff...pause...riff...pause...riff...pause...riff ...pause...etc."

03-12-2009, 03:50 PM	#11
AgentWalrus Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 203 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	0000000-00000000-------00000000000-----0-0-0-00000000-00----000 = born of osiris veil is better

03-12-2009, 03:51 PM	#12
gatesofcarnage The Canada Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bourbon,MO Posts: 1,070 Thanked: 19 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Veil every time, they are much more interesting than BOO.

03-12-2009, 05:01 PM	#15
british beef ss.org Regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bicester, Oxon, UK Posts: 170 Thanked: 6 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It's easy... After the Burial

03-12-2009, 08:37 PM	#16
ridealot100 SS.org Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: illinois Posts: 329 Thanked: 27 Feedback Score: 5 reviews	veil. hands down. Seen them both live a few times (They are both local) and Ide have to say veil takes it. Born of Osiris was alot better before they got signed to sumerian and changed their name from Rosecrance to Born of osiris. They used to have a few off little bits on their cds that they took off for the studio versions wich was a bummer. Ronnie is also not that great of a live vocalist wich is a bummer. Veil has always been a favorite! Their guitarist is unreal clean live. He just hits every note spot on and since its only him playing he makes great use of loops to keep everyhting "big" They are truely a joy to watch live. haha Veil Veil Veil! And after the burial is boring IMO

03-12-2009, 09:32 PM	#19
errnestoo ss.org Regular Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Yonkers, NY Posts: 195 Thanked: 5 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	thats easy, veil of maya

03-13-2009, 04:25 AM	#21
Scar Symmetry Ex Whiny Bitch Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 15,686 Thanked: 377 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I find After The Burial to be hit and miss. their really heavy tech groove bits = win. their really gay harmonised riffs = fail. Ever noticed how some people are real dicks on the internet, but when they post something involving their band, they make the effort to be nice? Funny that...

03-13-2009, 01:31 PM	#22
Imdeathcore noob bear Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Chilpancingo, Guerrero, Mexico Posts: 254 Thanked: 6 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	after the burial is a good band but veil of maya is better. easy

03-13-2009, 01:37 PM	#23
Anthony dude you're a koala Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Nassau Long Island Posts: 4,736 Thanked: 55 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	VOM>ATB>BOO I really like all of them though. Don't take anything I say here personally, I'm just here to talk about guitars while I'm not watching Brazzers.

03-13-2009, 06:26 PM	#24
Lucas Crowe Lovely Boy Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Watauga, Tennessee Posts: 646 Thanked: 9 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Veil of Maya.

05-13-2009, 07:28 PM	#25
MLI ss.org Regular Join Date: May 2009 Location: AR Posts: 78 Thanked: 4 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sorry if I'm bumping this, but I'm new and these are two of my favorite bands, so... Veil is better. Their stuff flows better riff to riff, their guitars are much punchier and present, the vocalist is better and has more variety, and the breakdowns are better. The only thing BoO has that veil doesn't is the keyboard, but that's not always too great. Sometimes Born go too far with their "offness". In my opinion, the best breakdowns find a good balance between denying the listeners what they anticipate, and giving the listenes what they anticipate. Too much of either one and it's either unsatisfying, or boring and predictable, respectively. Both sounded good life. When veil got to the climax, so to speak, of Pillars, it was just...shudder... Nonetheless, I think both bands are very good (not too sure about BoO's new song, check it out if you haven't) and are certainly different enough that I can enjoy both in close succession.

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