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Unread 01-08-2009, 09:16 PM   #1
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Why Do You Hate Deathcore?

Why do you hate deathcore?


1.Excessive Use Breakdowns
2.Emo/Hardcore Fags make Deathcore "Best Breakdown" Video's that make it impossible to find good Deathcore bands on youtube.
3.Pig Squealing



i can handle the more DEATH then Core style bands like whitechapel and through the eyes of the dead....but holy shit everything else is getting so scene its insane
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Its a washed out overpopulated genre. Bands I can stand:

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Its a washed out overpopulated genre. Bands I can stand:

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What he said.

Honestly, the music is just mixing Cannibal Corpse riffs and the worst part of about hardcore. If they mixed death metal in the style of let's say Death or Morbid Angel or Necrophagist with hardcore, then that'd be cool
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Yes. I do.
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What he said.

Honestly, the music is just mixing Cannibal Corpse riffs and the worst part of about hardcore. If they mixed death metal in the style of let's say Death or Morbid Angel or Necrophagist with hardcore, then that'd be cool
thats The Faceless and Born of Orisis



Yeah if it Was like Cannibal/Fetus/Suffo with an occasional well played breakdown it would be epic
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Oh, it says "Why do you hate etc etc.." not "do you hate"

In which case, theres just something about it that annoys me.. i think its a combination of the music, the vocals, and the beats.
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What bands do you guys consider deathcore. I just call everything metal cause then my friends just get to confuse. But my band is like a through the eyes of the dead/the black dahlia murder mix. Would that be deathcore?
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its always this.

generic chug riff with a pinch harmonic
into a blast beat
into a generic "ooooooOOOOAAAAAHHHHHHHHH" Or "BuurrrrrrrEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" vocal scream
into and random pre-mature "thump" breakdown
generic lyrics about being sad and killing
generic leead up to the breakdown
something stupid like "and you dieeeeee!!!"
a breakdown that lasts longer then the entire song without the breakdown included
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...ergo excluding a band as awesome as The Black Dahlia Murder from being 'deathcore'.
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To me, deathcore combines all the boring superficial aspects of modern death metal and "hardcore" and neglects everything that makes those genres enjoyable. The kids who play it like to hide behind irony as an excuse for being horrible songwriters and often act as if having "hilarious" lyrics about Gucci sweaters or Linux kernels or whatever somehow makes them more highbrow than classic death metal bands. I get the impression that most of them were listening to Limp Bizkit a couple of years ago and I resent them for treating one of my favourite metal genres as little more than a punchline to an unfunny joke.
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There's very little Deathcore that I can stand.

All Shall Perish
After the Burial (Amazing aside from their first singer IMO)
Born Of Osiris (More techy)
And if you consider early Faceless deathcore, them too. The Faceless are one of my favorite bands right now.
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I'd imagine Fellsilent is considered deathcore, and I dig them (well, kinda). Also, I like all the bands listed above.

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Is clients-era The Red Chord deathcore? If so, that's pretty much the only deathcore band I truly enjoy.

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a band as awesome as The Black Dahlia Murder from being 'deathcore'.
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What I really hate the most is the breakdown of genre's. I mean I had no idea until this thread that ASP was considered deathcore. I also had no idea wtf deathcore was.

All in all, I don't care. If I like what I hear, I don't stop to think what genre the band is "classified" as and don't care. Plain and simple.

I've heard bands with similar style to ASP and basically didn't like them.

At least I'm not surprised as I was when I found out Lamb of God was considered "metalcore." I mean, wtf? Just because they have breakdowns in some of their songs?

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Honestly, the music is just mixing Cannibal Corpse riffs and the worst part of about hardcore. If they mixed death metal in the style of let's say Death or Morbid Angel or Necrophagist with hardcore, then that'd be cool
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At least I'm not surprised as I was when I found out Lamb of God was considered "metalcore." I mean, wtf? Just because they have breakdowns in some of their songs?

/rant.
Well, people can be really pretentious and snobby about labeling music. Most of the the time, 10-15 years later you look back and scratch your head at how some bands were lumped in together.

Myself? I look at Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Stone Temple Pilots, etc. and find few discernible similarities between them. At the time, though, I recollect hearing ".... all those grunge bands! They're all just the same, stupid, no talented hippie shit." Now, I'm no real fan of any of those bands anymore but the hypothesis stands.

In every genre and era of music, there's innovators and there's copycats. While The Black Dahlia Murder or All Shall Perish are widely deemed more acceptable "deathcore", their longevity (not necessarily in existence, but in playlists) is probably a lot more certain then the that of the infinite nameless bands that they'll be lumped in with and serve to waterdown the genre (metal in general, really) and cause "****core" to become a four letter word.

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The Black Dahlia Murder aren't anything at all like Deatchcore. They don't have breakdowns, shitty bree vocals, utterly crap lyrics, eight string guitars or sweeps used to make a riff like all DC bands are just now. They're just out and out melodeath.
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What I really hate the most is the breakdown of genre's. I mean I had no idea until this thread that ASP was considered deathcore. I also had no idea wtf deathcore was.

All in all, I don't care. If I like what I hear, I don't stop to think what genre the band is "classified" as and don't care. Plain and simple.

I've heard bands with similar style to ASP and basically didn't like them.

At least I'm not surprised as I was when I found out Lamb of God was considered "metalcore." I mean, wtf? Just because they have breakdowns in some of their songs?

/rant.
This is pretty much me in a nutshell. I don't know nor do I care who is or isn't "deathcore." Anyone who actually gets in arguments about who is or isn't this, that, or whatever ....ing subgenre some band is needs to relax and get their ....ing head examined.

That being said, I like ASP, BOO, TTEOTD. The ones that bother me are the bands that all use drop A on a 7: Whitechapel, Suicide Silence, and Carnifex. They might sound good, but I just hate drop tunings.



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deathcore has really hurt metal for me. i've turned to rap/hip hop for a little break.

i can only listen to periphery and meshuggah for metal...at least for the past few weeks.

modern thrash needs to become the next 'metal trend'
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I happen to like it, i think some of these bands such as Carnifex, all shall perish, and whitechapel have some pretty intense music, and i agree some of it can be repetitive at times, such as suicide silence i could only take so much of them. I will say that i am a deathcore fan though and i think alot of these bands are putting the 7 back in the spotlight.

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This is pretty much me in a nutshell. I don't know nor do I care who is or isn't "deathcore." Anyone who actually gets in arguments about who is or isn't this, that, or whatever ....ing subgenre some band is needs to relax and get their ....ing head examined.

That being said, I like ASP, BOO, TTEOTD. The ones that bother me are the bands that all use drop A on a 7: Whitechapel, Suicide Silence, and Carnifex. They might sound good, but I just hate drop tunings.
You don't like certain bands because they use drop tunings? Incredibly odd coming from someone posting on SEVENSTRING.ORG.
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To me, deathcore combines all the boring superficial aspects of modern death metal and "hardcore" and neglects everything that makes those genres enjoyable. The kids who play it like to hide behind irony as an excuse for being horrible songwriters and often act as if having "hilarious" lyrics about Gucci sweaters or Linux kernels or whatever somehow makes them more highbrow than classic death metal bands. I get the impression that most of them were listening to Limp Bizkit a couple of years ago and I resent them for treating one of my favourite metal genres as little more than a punchline to an unfunny joke.
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not odd at all. standard tuning is standard even on a 7 as in:beadgbe. just as tuning aeadgbe is a drop tuning on a 7 just like tuning dadgbe is a drop tuning on a 6.

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