Why Do You Hate Deathcore?

[Stealthdjentstic]

Originally Posted by eleven59

That's funny, because BTBAM are one of our influences for sure Thanks man

No problem douchebag












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EDIT: ^ a wub fail!

[m3ta1head]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Good DeathCore

another couple of great songs off that album

[Wi77iam]

I HATE AS BLOOD RUNS BLACK because they sound so .. immature .. ....! I'M SO ANGRY

[Survival101]

Originally Posted by DDDorian

To me, deathcore combines all the boring superficial aspects of modern death metal and "hardcore" and neglects everything that makes those genres enjoyable. The kids who play it like to hide behind irony as an excuse for being horrible songwriters and often act as if having "hilarious" lyrics about Gucci sweaters or Linux kernels or whatever somehow makes them more highbrow than classic death metal bands. I get the impression that most of them were listening to Limp Bizkit a couple of years ago and I resent them for treating one of my favourite metal genres as little more than a punchline to an unfunny joke.

^^^
That is the short version of what I want to say.
I agree with everyone on the obnoxious overuse of breakdowns. Everything is good in moderation, I get annoyed by guitar solos when they're in EVERY SINGLE DAMN SONG in an album, but not to the extent of breakdowns because there is (here's me being a dick) actually music theory and much more creativity involved in writing a (good) solo than a breakdown. Plus, you can only do so much with an open note, pinch harmonics and disonant chords.

I used to like deathcore, I used to be in a deathcore band (terrible experience), but I just honestly don't hear the advanced levels of music composition that are present in standard death metal bands. That's not to say that there aren't deathcore bands that have a lot of music theory knowledge, but overall it just seems it's a bunch of kids who picked up a guitar about 3 months ago and possess very little originality. The song structure with this kind of music is damn near identical in every song and I don't hear anything that sounds like honest time and effort was put into it. Once again, there are exceptions to the rule, but I'm speaking in generalities based on my observations.

Most of all, I will admit my hatred for the genre comes from the scene and mentality that go along with it. My abhorrence for this has no bounds. More than anything it's the mentality...

I'm going to stop here before I say something irrational.

[Harry]

Originally Posted by sakeido

The breakdown of the breakdown is the best you gotta love the downshift from 100bpm to 50bpm to 25bpm ahaha

I don't think I've ever heard a breakdown of a breakdown until recent times
I'd say 200bpm, to 100bpm to 50bpm would be more dramatic

[Unknown Doodl3.2]

DDDorian hit the nail on the head for me...

I also have a hard time getting the hype about White Chapel. It's not a question of taste o because I don't like them or whatever, but I gave them a chance, heard them live, and their performance was bland, unmemorable, and totally annoying. Then Neuraxis came on destroying the whole set, and all I hear after is talks of White Chapel... am I missing something?

[BlindingLight7]

Originally Posted by Unknown Doodl3.2

DDDorian hit the nail on the head for me...

I also have a hard time getting the hype about White Chapel. It's not a question of taste o because I don't like them or whatever, but I gave them a chance, heard them live, and their performance was bland, unmemorable, and totally annoying. Then Neuraxis came on destroying the whole set, and all I hear after is talks of White Chapel... am I missing something?

its most likely these degenerate 15 yearold kids out there that only judge a band by how good there breakdowns are. cause there ....tards with no sense of musical nor melodic theory. just chug chug chug chug booooom



weres the crabwalk breakdown gif/vid when you need it?

[errnestoo]

Originally Posted by eleven59

You pretty much just described my band, if you throw in bits of black metal and prog

MySpace.com - TERRORHORSE (NEW LAYOUT/VOTE FOR US) - London, CA - Metal / Progressive / Death Metal - www.myspace.com/terrorhorse



(our new stuff also adds some Meshuggah, Psyopus, and Porcupine Tree influenced stuff )

[ire_works]

Originally Posted by BlindingLight7

its most likely these degenerate 15 yearold kids out there that only judge a band by how good there breakdowns are. cause there ....tards with no sense of musical nor melodic theory. just chug chug chug chug booooom



weres the crabwalk breakdown gif/vid when you need it?

ask and ye shalt recieve

[wannabguitarist]

Deathcore is kinda fun to play imo. Then again I can't play anything remotely technical

Originally Posted by ire_works

ask and ye shalt recieve

And I've never listened to Veil of Maya before

[Triple-J]

I hope that Michael Jackson does a comeback tour and ditches the moonwalk in favour of the crabwalk!
The solo in "Beat It" + MJ crabwalking = WIN!!

DDDorian's post

To me Deathcore sounds amateurish like kids who are trying to imitate Death/Black Metal after hearing it for the first time.
Personally I don't like it cause rather like Pop-punk the bands that play it sound interchangeable which in my eyes makes it a scene which won't evolve and I honestly believe life is just to short to even give a shit about genre's and bands that are stagnant especially when there is so much better and inspiring stuff out there.

[rasse]

Originally Posted by BlindingLight7

its most likely these degenerate 15 yearold kids out there that only judge a band by how good there breakdowns are. cause there ....tards with no sense of musical nor melodic theory. just chug chug chug chug booooom



weres the crabwalk breakdown gif/vid when you need it?

You realize you just basically told about 10 people that posted on this thread are immature ....tards?

-edit typo

[Stitch]

Originally Posted by BlindingLight7

its most likely these degenerate 15 yearold kids out there that only judge a band by how good there breakdowns are. cause there ....tards with no sense of musical nor melodic theory. just chug chug chug chug booooom



weres the crabwalk breakdown gif/vid when you need it?

Originally Posted by rasse

You realize you just basically told about 10 people that posted on this thread are immature ....tards?

-edit typo

You're honestly surprised someone said something stupid on the internet?

That's all right man, I couldn't care less what someone thinks of the music I listen to. Doesn't affect me in any way.

[Zac]

Dismissing an entire genre of music based on it's fans/image is ....ing bullshit. I did it for years with Black Metal, and regret it. That said, I still can't stand most BM fans.

While I don't particularly like Deathcore, there are definitely bands who play it well, and there are talented people who play said genre. Born of Osiris are excellent, and definitely don't stick to any formula. The album "Akeldama" by The Faceless is an amazing album, and yes, it has it's share of breakdowns. Their second release, "Planetary Duality", is more technical and has practically no traces of Core, if you're the type of person who takes the word "Core" (or "Hardcore") to be universally derogatory.

[BlindingLight7]

ORT ORT ORT ORT ORT ORT

ORT ORT ORT ORT BREEEEEEEE



Anyone want the video? theres like 5 different versions of it too

[ThrashensteiN]

I cant stand the bands that dress like theyre a bunch of wanna be white boy amateur rappers, try and do terrible super low pig squals and do nothing but walk back and forth on stage fixing their hat and pants, while the sale palm muted pattern is occasionally interrupted by a pinch harmonic or triplet, and the only possibly talented member of the band is the drummer but hes so stoned he doesnt even know how bad the music is.

All Shall Perish is incredible, I didnt read the rest of the thread cuz I want to go back to drinking.

[Harry]

Originally Posted by ThrashensteiN

I cant stand the bands that dress like theyre a bunch of wanna be white boy amateur rappers, try and do terrible super low pig squals and do nothing but walk back and forth on stage fixing their hat and pants, while the sale palm muted pattern is occasionally interrupted by a pinch harmonic or triplet, and the only possibly talented member of the band is the drummer but hes so stoned he doesnt even know how bad the music is.

All Shall Perish is incredible, I didnt read the rest of the thread cuz I want to go back to drinking.

" didnt read the rest of the thread cuz I want to go back to drinking"
That made my day

[Piro]

I hate deathcore because they care more about their image then their damn music. Only Deathcore band I will ever listen to is Whitechapel. I don't even count them as deathcore because they actually try to write good stuff.

[Metal Ken]

So, to summarize the last ten pages:
1) Shitty quarter time breakdowns constituting 7/8ths of the song
2) Gay poser haircuts/clothing
3) Shitty vocalists
4) ....ing gay band names that are either complete sentences or prepositional phrases

thats what does it in for me. If the music were good i could care less about the haircuts and shitty clothes. But the vocalists always ruin it, and if they don't, the shitty Obligatory Breakdown does.

[7StringedBeast]

5) F***** gay kids who like to "hardcore dance"

Consequence:

[metaljohn]

Originally Posted by 7StringedBeast

5) F***** gay kids who like to "hardcore dance"

Consequence:

This is the shit I can't stand. 300 lb. dudes picking on people smaller than them at shows, simply because they are "hardcore dancing". Especially if they are in the middle of the pit, not bothering anyone. It's all moshing, just in different forms (because they came from different types of music).

People should be watching out for each other at shows. They shouldn't be fighting over superficial differences in music taste, how they look, mosh etc. It's pathetic.

edit: As far as the music goes, there are bands I like, and bands I don't. This goes for every genre.

[Scootman1911]

I hate hardcore dancers because they just stand in the middle of the where the pit should be kicking around making it impossible to mosh without getting kicked in the face.

[BlindingLight7]

that was hella funny


i wonder what the next metal trend will be? breakdowncore?

[Piro]

Hardcore dancing = metal equivalent of down syndrome

[BlindingLight7]

Originally Posted by Piro

Hardcore dancing = metal equivalent of down syndrome

WIN!: lol: