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Unread 12-04-2008, 08:45 PM   #51
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TBH I don't notice it, and that bothers me because I can usually pick it out pretty well.
really? It's the first chorus, second verse sung by Rob. He sounds like Rihanna for a second

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Unread 12-04-2008, 09:06 PM   #52
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really? It's the first chorus, second verse sung by Rob. He sounds like Rihanna for a second
I can *kinda* hear it now that i'm at home with good speakers, but the Youtube'd audio makes it sound terrible, not to mention Rob's not usually all that sober when he performs (I like Machine Head, but man was he ....ed up when I saw them live a few years ago)

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Holy shit, I'd heard that guy was a shredder through and through....but that was ....ing terrible...

I think what happened is he knocked the volume knob on his homosexualist Dean...

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Unread 12-04-2008, 09:42 PM   #54
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I can *kinda* hear it now that i'm at home with good speakers, but the Youtube'd audio makes it sound terrible, not to mention Rob's not usually all that sober when he performs (I like Machine Head, but man was he ....ed up when I saw them live a few years ago)
for any youtube vid, just put in &fmt=18 at the end of the URL for best quality

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Unread 12-05-2008, 02:02 AM   #55
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Well Dime wasn't the cleanest player, and he was never all about the kind of super Cooley-esque dedication to practising, he was about rocking out. He never sounded amazin, played the fastest or the cleanest when he was alive so I don't think Trivium are really desecrating his memory or anything. I don't really like Trivium, but it's more Dime to bash it out than to learn it note for note and try and execute it perfectly, since he never did that anyway.
Actually, I'll have to disagree. I'm not a big Pantera/Dime fan, but the guy could play live. I mean, he really had the skills to do his stuff. We're not talking Dragonforce here.

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Holy shit, I'd heard that guy was a shredder through and through....but that was ....ing terrible...

I think what happened is he knocked the volume knob on his homosexualist Dean...
They are quite good actually. That was just REALLY terrible playing by both of them.


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Play the best solo in the world, your dog hears it. Play the worst, it's on YouTube.
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Play the best solo in the world, your dog hears it. Play the worst, it's on YouTube.
this should be on the list of "quotes of the year."

we all have our good days and bad days..... i've even heard guthrie suck it up at a clinic (by suck it up, i mean play quite well by human beings' standards).

anyways, yeah, the solos weren't good, but these guys don't suck, and negative publicity is just as good as positive
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this should be on the list of "quotes of the year."

we all have our good days and bad days..... i've even heard guthrie suck it up at a clinic (by suck it up, i mean play quite well by human beings' standards).

anyways, yeah, the solos weren't good, but these guys don't suck, and negative publicity is just as good as positive
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this should be on the list of "quotes of the year."

we all have our good days and bad days..... i've even heard guthrie suck it up at a clinic (by suck it up, i mean play quite well by human beings' standards).

anyways, yeah, the solos weren't good, but these guys don't suck, and negative publicity is just as good as positive
But you don't have bad days right?
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Unread 12-05-2008, 08:29 AM   #63
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HAHAHAHA!!!!!! that is the BEST SOLO EVVAR!!!! well.. no.. I don't have the speed to play the way they do on the record, but I could've done that :P hahaha

they didn't suck on solos when I saw them in 2006 I think it was.

and all hail auto-pitch gone wrong on the vocals
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Unread 12-05-2008, 08:57 AM   #64
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But you don't have bad days right?
Check his musicvirtuosity.com lesson, which is pretty cool actually, and you'll see him nodding and closing an eye while playing the arpeggios slowly, he hates playing it slow.

I like Trivium first 2 CDs completely, except for "Dying In Your Arms". Don't like The Crusade much and Shogun too.

They defined metalcore with the first 2 CDs, that was very cool. The Crusade started to unplease me because of the old-school-thrash-rooted sound, and they were using Seymour Duncan Dime PUs, a big mistake.

These dudes aren't the tightest thing in the world when it comes to live singing, but the playing is always standard, specially for Corey.

As for Machine Head, well, I like Trivium better.
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Unread 12-05-2008, 11:00 AM   #65
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I was just called a, "Probably pimple faced nerd who can't get laid" for saying that Trivium sucks on the video. Man, people are really profound on youtube.
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I was just called a, "Probably pimple faced nerd who can't get laid" for saying that Trivium sucks on the video. Man, people are really profound on youtube.
listen- the bottom line is, fans of a band will purposely tune out the bad shit that their idols do, just as detractors of a band will pick out every flaw.

My main issue with Trivium is there blatant plagiarism and suckassery of Metallica and other thrash legends. Matt Heafy has certainly accomplished more than a lot of us have at his age, and that counts for something. But until they find their own sound and stop trying to pose as Hetfield & co., they will get zero respect from me.

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Unread 12-05-2008, 11:28 AM   #67
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I agree 100% on that one.

They could be really good if they stopped with the Metallica ripoff.
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Heafy's solo was executed okay, a bit Kerry King-ish in its composition... Cory was yeah, a little sloppy... we all have our bad days (most of mine ), but they nailed the two part harmony on the 'Domination' outro, so okay. I know they're all better guitarists than myself. So, I'm going to take the high road and choose not to on them.
I don't really like Trivium but I agree with most of this here... They always strike me as being a bit too contrived. Then again, having done the thrash thing the first time round I get a lot of deja vu.

Rob's vocals were, erm, interesting.

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listen- the bottom line is, fans of a band will purposely tune out the bad shit that their idols do, just as detractors of a band will pick out every flaw.

My main issue with Trivium is there blatant plagiarism and suckassery of Metallica and other thrash legends. Matt Heafy has certainly accomplished more than a lot of us have at his age, and that counts for something. But until they find their own sound and stop trying to pose as Hetfield & co., they will get zero respect from me.
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I was just called a, "Probably pimple faced nerd who can't get laid" for saying that Trivium sucks on the video. Man, people are really profound on youtube.
Yes, people really are profound on Youtube.

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Yes, people really are profound on Youtube.
Fair enough. I was really tired and pissed off at my computer and figured Trivium was an easy target.
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listen- the bottom line is, fans of a band will purposely tune out the bad shit that their idols do, just as detractors of a band will pick out every flaw.


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this should be on the list of "quotes of the year."

we all have our good days and bad days..... i've even heard guthrie suck it up at a clinic (by suck it up, i mean play quite well by human beings' standards).

anyways, yeah, the solos weren't good, but these guys don't suck, and negative publicity is just as good as positive
This, quoted for truth and general awesome.

Now I know this wasn't their best night nor is this best the most well-loved on this board-- though some do appreciate them-- but how ridiculous would any of you think it was if people went to your concerts only to discuss whatever flaws or shortcomings they could find in your playing, regardless if you're playing clubs or arenas.

If they absolutely are terrible every night, then this might have some merit. But even Dragonforce, now well-known for their less-than-exemplary live performances, have conflicting accounts: some shows being awful, some others being good.

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Fair enough. I was really tired and pissed off at my computer and figured Trivium was an easy target.
I know, I've been there, though the only Youtube post I made gave a song name.

I've been trying to get away from the "these dudes suck" thing; it's not always easy.

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I've seen trivium three of four times.. and I have to say, their playing isn't as perfect and tight as 'shuggah..
But I did have a good time everytime I saw them. Lots of energy comes from the band..
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I dig Trivium. I've got Ascendancy, heard a few tracks off Crusade (didn't really care for them...) and a few off the new one, which so far, I'm diggin'.
I've watched a ton of Youtube clips in the past and generally, you hear a lot of bad vocal nights...


I've been watching some stuff from the recent tour and Heafy's definitely gotten better live with the vocals.

And yeah, that clip with Flynn was definitely terrible...there must have been some bad luck surrounding that gig as everyone sounded terrible.

This clip, however, shows the guys tearin' it up live-
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I like Trivium a lot, From Ember to Inferno and Ascendancy were great all the way through. The new albums are pretty good but I only like select tracks off of them, they don't seem as cohesive.

That was indeed awful. It sounds like their left hands weren't in sync with their right hands. They probably should have spent more time warming up, that or they need to do some wood shedding.
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