Born of Osiris MegaThread! - All things BoO

[drawnacrol]

Originally Posted by brutalwizard

its kinda implied that he did the solo

Wow I never new that. It sounds like Jason takes over because of the transition and how the second one starts with some tricky string skipping licks that are similar to some of his other solos. Good to know though!!!

Lee is really level headed about the whole situation. It really makes me doubt Jason's statements or at least them less seriously. Their is a lot more to this than were being told.

[goherpsNderp]

noticing a trend of plenty of commentary about how the other guys in BoO are IRL but not much about Jason from those that know him aside from him being out of touch with a guy that wanted lessons.

im not going to judge jason for how he's handled things because A. BoO handled the situation poorly (up until they decided to stay quiet) and B. those of you that have been hurt before and felt it was unjustified know how it feels, and know how anger can drive you to do some senseless things that you later come to regret.

everyone involved will learn from this and move on, but i think it's pretty sad for people to bash either jason or BoO in this unless all facts are known- regardless of jason making that statement. it's become suddenly divided. jason sucks! lee did all the cool stuff and he didn't! BoO sucks! without jason they are crap! you just make yourself sound just as bad as whichever side you're trying to insult and put down.

with that said, my best friend and myself left a band we were in (years back) because we discovered the singer was selling drugs out of the house he was renting and we were storing all of our gear in. (i'll save everyone my opinions about the activities and just focus on the practical implications) i not only was shocked that i hadn't been told this was going on for a long time until i witnessed it, but that he had the audacity to put everything we owned at stake like that. one bad deal and some guys could show up and clean the place out. my friend said he couldn't drum with them if that would be happening, and i agreed. we got all our shit out and i had to get 'lectured' by the singer as to how what we did was "petty". we parted ways with them and did our own thing. we didn't raise a big stink or talk shit to people but if we were asked why we left we left things vague.

i don't know if that's the kind of stuff that jason was talking about, much less if it's true. but if it is, the best way to handle it is to just speak up and if nothing changes pull out. if this was such a big deal it's odd that it got to the point where HE was kicked out and not vice versa- then again these guys are successful and i was just in a smalltime local band. either way it sucks to be a fan of them ALL INDIVIDUALLY and then suddenly see this side of them all. i'd rather it have just all happened quietly.

/rant

[MikeH]

He says specifically in an interview that he wrote the first part and Jason wrote and played the second. I'm not implying anything.

[Rick]

I gotta think that what Jason did wasn't necessary. The only people who actually know what happens in the BOO house are BOO and maybe a couple/few others. We'll never know who exactly did what, for all we know, Jason made it up. I'm not saying he did and I'm not saying he didn't. If I ask them what happens, they'd probably deny it.

[allshallperishfan]

PLEASE GOD. PLEASE. ....ING REVIVE CHRIS STOREY and LET HIM JOIN THIS BAND.

[Don Vito]

Originally Posted by allshallperishfan

PLEASE GOD. PLEASE. ....ING REVIVE CHRIS STOREY and LET HIM JOIN THIS BAND.

Is he dead? Do we need some necromancy up in this bitch!?

[allshallperishfan]

Originally Posted by kennedyblake

Is he dead? Do we need some necromancy up in this bitch!?

no but he hasnt been in a band in forever so metaphorically hes dead

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by goherpsNderp

noticing a trend of plenty of commentary about how the other guys in BoO are IRL but not much about Jason from those that know him aside from him being out of touch with a guy that wanted lessons.

im not going to judge jason for how he's handled things because A. BoO handled the situation poorly (up until they decided to stay quiet) and B. those of you that have been hurt before and felt it was unjustified know how it feels, and know how anger can drive you to do some senseless things that you later come to regret.

everyone involved will learn from this and move on, but i think it's pretty sad for people to bash either jason or BoO in this unless all facts are known- regardless of jason making that statement. it's become suddenly divided. jason sucks! lee did all the cool stuff and he didn't! BoO sucks! without jason they are crap! you just make yourself sound just as bad as whichever side you're trying to insult and put down.

with that said, my best friend and myself left a band we were in (years back) because we discovered the singer was selling drugs out of the house he was renting and we were storing all of our gear in. (i'll save everyone my opinions about the activities and just focus on the practical implications) i not only was shocked that i hadn't been told this was going on for a long time until i witnessed it, but that he had the audacity to put everything we owned at stake like that. one bad deal and some guys could show up and clean the place out. my friend said he couldn't drum with them if that would be happening, and i agreed. we got all our shit out and i had to get 'lectured' by the singer as to how what we did was "petty". we parted ways with them and did our own thing. we didn't raise a big stink or talk shit to people but if we were asked why we left we left things vague.

i don't know if that's the kind of stuff that jason was talking about, much less if it's true. but if it is, the best way to handle it is to just speak up and if nothing changes pull out. if this was such a big deal it's odd that it got to the point where HE was kicked out and not vice versa- then again these guys are successful and i was just in a smalltime local band. either way it sucks to be a fan of them ALL INDIVIDUALLY and then suddenly see this side of them all. i'd rather it have just all happened quietly.

/rant

To be fair, I'm not just someone who couldn't get in touch with him for lessons, I'm a person who knew him and was completely ignored by him. I totally got the vibe that he didn't acknowledge me cause I wasn't as good as him, and Lee's comment only confirms that notion of his arrogance.

[brutalwizard]

Originally Posted by allshallperishfan

PLEASE GOD. PLEASE. ....ING REVIVE CHRIS STOREY and LET HIM JOIN THIS BAND.

i dont think that chris storey could play there riffs, solo's maybe.

but he cant write very good music, attempt to listen to smashface......

[LeeOSIRIS]

Whats up guys! Obviously as you've seen we aren't really to be giving any details about the situation, as you can already tell it only fuels a fire that is already out of hand. The more details we give, the more comments will flood in coming from people that don't know anything about our band and how it works. BUT! I do feel at home here on this message board and I really love and support this site.

First off... no one in this band has a drug problem. It gets me really upset when I see people saying "I don't blame Jason for being pissed, he's trying to get shit done and their trying to party." This couldn't be more false. I can honestly say nobody does anything drug or alcohol related in this band any more than some kid off having fun in college. Not only can we NOT afford a drug problem, our music is and has been the most important thing in our lives since we all started... so anything that would affect that negatively would not be had in ANY of our lives.
Yes it was personal differences, but not at all him being the "dad" bitching about our party habits. Thats immature... We don't run a business off of immaturity. We come off tour and live in a house together, we are seriously in eachothers faces 24/7, EVERY day of the year. This means we can't have someone in the band that we don't see eye to eye with. We need to keep our atmosphere positive and creative.. drama free.

I did see someone mention that they say we've been writing for a new album since before the Discovery was even finished being recorded. They mentioned worry that we would use Jason's stuff since he isn't in the band and that would be a low blow. To address that - The five of us are Born of Osiris. We are the ones creating the music. Just because there is more lead work on The Discovery doesn't mean it was all him. We as a band made the decision to step that aspect of our music up. Not every lead and solo is his. Some are mine, some are his. This isn't something thats going to disappear from our sound in his absence. None of you even seem to know who's solo/lead is whos, and so you can't automatically assume that HE's the reason you liked our band. The song writers of this band have and always will be here. He's not the reason the Discovery sounds the way it does, it's us coming together and living in a house to create the album together that made it what it was. We will only get better, and stronger. If we were so out of control with drugs/alcohol/partying, you wouldn't have a brand new album on the way of our best material less than a year later. Let's put things into perspective here, and stay positive and happy.

I want to AGAIN say... I care a lot Jason and Chelsea Grin. I wish them the best. No amount of shit talking is going to turn me into a hateful person. He can say anything negative he wants... bottom line is we lived with him for two years and we can only care and hope that he has a great future in music.

Music is about fun, creativity, and expression... This is not a soap opera.
I love you guys, this seems to be a real level headed place to discuss things.
Let's keep my comments right here on this forum and not go posting them all over the internet to be "the dude with all the answers." This is for you guys only, as I said before... I fully support this website.
ALSO! Come say hi to me at a show. I absolutely love meeting people on the road that are a part of this website. It always leads to great conversations!

[Lukifer]

Thanks for the insight Lee!

[eaeolian]

Originally Posted by Lukifer

Thanks for the insight Lee!

Indeed. Nice to see a band member show up and be positive about what could easily be a negative situation.

[goherpsNderp]

Thanks Lee! You didn't have to come and post but you did anyway. I can only imagine how frustrating it can be to have your personal lives pulled up into the spotlight (be it true or false) and then having to be careful about addressing it and all that.

I'm going to just keep on listening/following BoO as well as Jason in his endeavors (have never listened to CG) and not let any of this change my opinion on anyone involved. It's the best for everyone. When you really think about it, how often to we hear the stories behind other bands parting ways with people? I'm sure we wouldn't like what we heard if we were let in on the stories behind a lot of our heroes. Finding out your fave guitarist is axe murdering hookers every weekend? Yeah, that's a reason to lash out and condemn him, but if it's some squabbling between band mates and it goes sour (we all do it, we're human) then I see no reason to suddenly damn people and insult their character/talent.

@Anthony: I see what you're saying, but in the end you're one guy, and there's obviously something personal that is going on between you two. My point is that there aren't widespread reports of how big of an asshole Jason is. This isn't Phile Anselmo league stuff here. It sucks that he's being that way to you though.

[mikernaut]

Fred Brum or Keith Merrow for BOO?

what about Nolly he isn't busy right? He could handle another band, heheh

[Pooluke41]

Wow, loads of people are making douche comments on youtube.....

[th3m1ke]

Originally Posted by LeeOSIRIS

Let's keep my comments right here on this forum and not go posting them all over the internet to be "the dude with all the answers." This is for you guys only, as I said before... I fully support this website.

Aw shucks, that means a lot

[allshallperishfan]

Originally Posted by LeeOSIRIS

Whats up guys! Obviously as you've seen we aren't really to be giving any details about the situation, as you can already tell it only fuels a fire that is already out of hand. The more details we give, the more comments will flood in coming from people that don't know anything about our band and how it works. BUT! I do feel at home here on this message board and I really love and support this site.

First off... no one in this band has a drug problem. It gets me really upset when I see people saying "I don't blame Jason for being pissed, he's trying to get shit done and their trying to party." This couldn't be more false. I can honestly say nobody does anything drug or alcohol related in this band any more than some kid off having fun in college. Not only can we NOT afford a drug problem, our music is and has been the most important thing in our lives since we all started... so anything that would affect that negatively would not be had in ANY of our lives.
Yes it was personal differences, but not at all him being the "dad" bitching about our party habits. Thats immature... We don't run a business off of immaturity. We come off tour and live in a house together, we are seriously in eachothers faces 24/7, EVERY day of the year. This means we can't have someone in the band that we don't see eye to eye with. We need to keep our atmosphere positive and creative.. drama free.

I did see someone mention that they say we've been writing for a new album since before the Discovery was even finished being recorded. They mentioned worry that we would use Jason's stuff since he isn't in the band and that would be a low blow. To address that - The five of us are Born of Osiris. We are the ones creating the music. Just because there is more lead work on The Discovery doesn't mean it was all him. We as a band made the decision to step that aspect of our music up. Not every lead and solo is his. Some are mine, some are his. This isn't something thats going to disappear from our sound in his absence. None of you even seem to know who's solo/lead is whos, and so you can't automatically assume that HE's the reason you liked our band. The song writers of this band have and always will be here. He's not the reason the Discovery sounds the way it does, it's us coming together and living in a house to create the album together that made it what it was. We will only get better, and stronger. If we were so out of control with drugs/alcohol/partying, you wouldn't have a brand new album on the way of our best material less than a year later. Let's put things into perspective here, and stay positive and happy.

I want to AGAIN say... I care a lot Jason and Chelsea Grin. I wish them the best. No amount of shit talking is going to turn me into a hateful person. He can say anything negative he wants... bottom line is we lived with him for two years and we can only care and hope that he has a great future in music.

Music is about fun, creativity, and expression... This is not a soap opera.
I love you guys, this seems to be a real level headed place to discuss things.
Let's keep my comments right here on this forum and not go posting them all over the internet to be "the dude with all the answers." This is for you guys only, as I said before... I fully support this website.
ALSO! Come say hi to me at a show. I absolutely love meeting people on the road that are a part of this website. It always leads to great conversations!

give chris storey a shot!

[drawnacrol]

Wow!!!! Thats really cool of you Lee to post here with such a positive attitude. If nothing more is said on facebook the whole situation will die down quickly like how Rhapsody managed to split apart with very little controversy/explanation.

Looking forward to the new album! The discovery was a masterpiece.

[sessionswan]

Originally Posted by allshallperishfan

give chris storey a shot!

Nice try, Chris Storey

I kid, I kid...

[allshallperishfan]

Originally Posted by brutalwizard

i dont think that chris storey could play there riffs, solo's maybe.

but he cant write very good music, attempt to listen to smashface......

Dude Chris storey can easily play all of their riffs. jason richardson was a replacement for chris storey for gods sake hahaha. As for writing, look at all shall perish's albums with him. not to mention the whole band would be writing songs together like they said.

[Anthony]

Hey Lee, check your pms when you get a chance.

[chevymeister]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Hey Lee, check your pms when you get a chance.

Guys can pms as well?

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by chevymeister

Guys can pms as well?

You don't dickbleed?

[CrownofWorms]

Originally Posted by LeeOSIRIS

ALSO! Come say hi to me at a show. I absolutely love meeting people on the road that are a part of this website. It always leads to great conversations!

I hope so too. Since we both live in Chicago it would be kinda cool if I just happened to bump into you guys.

[Zelos45]

Thanks a bunch for posting Lee! I didn't really know what to think - talking about BOO became a shitfest. It means a lot that you'd come on here and explain to all of us fans what the situation is. At first I thought Jason's story was 100% true, then... whatever, it doesn't matter (it's good to know you guys are the nice dudes everyone says you are!). Thanks for the explanation and I'm sure you'll be fine without Jason (and CG will be better for it!). Can't wait for the new album!