The New DragonForce...Meh. Is it Just Me OR...

WayneCustom7 · 02-15-2006, 08:57 AM

Ok so I just listened to a song off the new DragonForce CD, Inhuman Rampage. The song is called Through the Fire and Flames
http://www.dragonforce.com/
which you can download. Now is it just me or does this song sound like it came off their prvious album. I mean I really want to like like it, I love what they did prior to this, I think they're phenomenal, however there is nothing new here, very formulaic. Please someone correct me if I am wrong!

chris9 · 02-15-2006, 09:12 AM

I have just the album i have only had a listen to the first 5 songs but what i have heard so far is really good but just a bit boring its all very similar. This is my first dragon force album are they all like this there just seems to be too many fast songs. I like a few medium tempo songs just to break things up are there some on the album i guess i,ll find out tonight when i listen to the rest.

eaeolian · 02-15-2006, 09:23 AM

I've got the whole thing. I don't think it's worth the hype - it's not bad, but it gets same-y VERY fast.

WayneCustom7 · 02-15-2006, 10:00 AM

Dang, I guess I'm right then huh...oh well hopefully they'll learn from it and change things up. On the CD prior, Sonic Firestorm there's a song on the latter half of the CD called Prepare for War. Now I thouught the band would progress towards something like this, similar to lets say Opeth's journey...unfortunatley this isn't the case!

Toshiro · 02-15-2006, 10:09 AM

It grows on you. heh

Of course, I've had about 5 months to get used to it.

Padraig · 02-15-2006, 10:24 AM

Yeah its a grower but you can't help but think they are capable of so much more. Its their best album and best songs but imho its just Sonic Firestorm tweaked and improved in places. Still I don't think they are ever gonna change and we're likely to get 10 or so albums of this.

D-EJ915 · 02-15-2006, 11:02 AM

If you're just getting into them then the new cd would be fine for you...but it does sound exactly like the older material.

eaeolian · 02-15-2006, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Padraig

Yeah its a grower but you can't help but think they are capable of so much more. Its their best album and best songs but imho its just Sonic Firestorm tweaked and improved in places. Still I don't think they are ever gonna change and we're likely to get 10 or so albums of this.

So they're like Stratovarius, only faster?

Martin_777 · 02-15-2006, 11:21 AM

To my mind their first album "Valley Of The Damned" is the best. The songs are far more catchy and they are not totally obsessed with speed. I love every song on this album which I can't say for "Sonic Firestorm" or "Inhuman Rampage". But maybe it's because I listened to "Valley..." many many many times and the other two just need to grow as Toshiro mentioned.

My favourite Dragonforce song is "Black Winter Nights". Their best song ever!

Toshiro · 02-15-2006, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cactus_Jack

To my mind their first album "Valley Of The Damned" is the best. The songs are far more catchy and they are not totally obsessed with speed. I love every song on this album which I can't say for "Sonic Firestorm" or "Inhuman Rampage". But maybe it's because I listened to "Valley..." many many many times and the other two just need to grow as Toshiro mentioned.

My favourite Dragonforce song is "Black Winter Nights". Their best song ever!

Actually, I tend to agree with you. Valley had the best music, Firestorm and the new one have better recording/mix.

Still it's powermetal, and intentionally crazy powermetal at that. They have Super Mario samples for crying out loud.

Better to be 'boringly the same' than 'intentionally shitty for radio play', IMO.

Martin_777 · 02-15-2006, 11:53 AM

Have a look at this one :
The "Studio Recording" section is funny to watch!

http://www.dragonforce.com/sound_music_videos1.html

Skeksis · 02-15-2006, 11:54 AM

Every song on the new album sounds the same to me. Really boring to listen to after the first track.

a_daft_punk · 02-15-2006, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cactus_Jack

To my mind their first album "Valley Of The Damned" is the best. The songs are far more catchy and they are not totally obsessed with speed. I love every song on this album which I can't say for "Sonic Firestorm" or "Inhuman Rampage". But maybe it's because I listened to "Valley..." many many many times and the other two just need to grow as Toshiro mentioned.

My favourite Dragonforce song is "Black Winter Nights". Their best song ever!

I agree so much with this.

Black Winter Night was the first song i heard

Joe

Metal Ken · 02-15-2006, 07:47 PM

Well, a lot of Powr Metal is pretty formulaic. So, i doesnt come as a surprise to me. However, if it sounds like Dragonforce i'll like it lol.

Digital Black · 02-16-2006, 12:19 AM

I think the first few songs really kick. after that it gets kinda boring.

Lankles · 02-16-2006, 06:45 AM

Bizarrely, Dragonforce's incomprehensible speed makes their songs repetitive and dull. That new one for download is pretty damn painful.

darren · 02-16-2006, 07:05 AM

Wait, there's actually a band called DragonForce?

Is StrongBad their lead singer? TROGDOR... THE BURNINATOR!

Toshiro · 02-16-2006, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darren

Wait, there's actually a band called DragonForce?

Is StrongBad their lead singer? TROGDOR... THE BURNINATOR!

Um, no, but Herman Li could be a robot sent from the future to kill all other guitarists. The Shreddinator.

eleven59 · 02-16-2006, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darren

Wait, there's actually a band called DragonForce?

Is StrongBad their lead singer? TROGDOR... THE BURNINATOR!

Isn't there a rollercoaster at Canada's Wonderland called "DragonForce"?

...no, Dragon Fire...damn, that would have been cool lol

Martin_777 · 02-16-2006, 02:38 PM

Before they called themselves "Dragonforce" they were named "Dragonheart" but they had to change it. Maybe because of the stupid movie with Dennis Quaid.

noodles · 02-16-2006, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cactus_Jack

Maybe because of the stupid movie with Dennis Quaid.

Hey man, that's not fair, there was some great moments in that movie!

...like the closing credits.

distressed_romeo · 02-16-2006, 04:06 PM

I don't find them convincing to be honest. They seem just like a parody of a power metal band to me. Don't get me wrong, I love decent power metal like Angra, Sonata Arctica or Kamelot...

Martin_777 · 02-16-2006, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by distressed_romeo

I don't find them convincing to be honest. They seem just like a parody of a power metal band to me. Don't get me wrong, I love decent power metal like Angra, Sonata Arctica or Kamelot...

Or like Iced Earth?

They are not a parody my opinion, they defined their own "unique" style & are pretty good in what they are doing. Maybe the songwriting is not up to Iron Maiden standards (when they had their peak) but all their albums blew me away. And as hundreds said before me ... their music grows. Every time you listen to their songs again you'll find some new bits and pieces you didn't hear before.

Martin_777 · 02-16-2006, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noodles

Hey man, that's not fair, there was some great moments in that movie!

...like the closing credits.

And they had some nice effectsin there ... at least for 1996. But the plot was

, the cast was

and who had the brilliant idea to name the dragon "Draco"???? Ouch!

D-EJ915 · 02-16-2006, 06:23 PM

Hammerfall \m/

02-15-2006, 08:57 AM	#1
WayneCustom7 Paolo Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 2,928 Thanked: 9	The New DragonForce...Meh. Is it Just Me OR... Ok so I just listened to a song off the new DragonForce CD, Inhuman Rampage. The song is called Through the Fire and Flames http://www.dragonforce.com/ which you can download. Now is it just me or does this song sound like it came off their prvious album. I mean I really want to like like it, I love what they did prior to this, I think they're phenomenal, however there is nothing new here, very formulaic. Please someone correct me if I am wrong! __________________ "and we'll also be establishing, beyond all scientific doubt, that ANY note can be made to sound good over ANY chord, so long as you put it in the right place!" Guthrie Govan

02-15-2006, 10:00 AM	#4
WayneCustom7 Paolo Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 2,928 Thanked: 9	Dang, I guess I'm right then huh...oh well hopefully they'll learn from it and change things up. On the CD prior, Sonic Firestorm there's a song on the latter half of the CD called Prepare for War. Now I thouught the band would progress towards something like this, similar to lets say Opeth's journey...unfortunatley this isn't the case! __________________ "and we'll also be establishing, beyond all scientific doubt, that ANY note can be made to sound good over ANY chord, so long as you put it in the right place!" Guthrie Govan

02-15-2006, 10:09 AM	#5
Toshiro Does not djent, ever Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Daytona Beach, FL Posts: 5,376 Thanked: 17	It grows on you. heh Of course, I've had about 5 months to get used to it. __________________ Um, Like Sound Files and Stuff ^_^ oh yeah, and some crappy videos too!

02-15-2006, 10:24 AM	#6
Padraig ss.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 115 Thanked: 0	Yeah its a grower but you can't help but think they are capable of so much more. Its their best album and best songs but imho its just Sonic Firestorm tweaked and improved in places. Still I don't think they are ever gonna change and we're likely to get 10 or so albums of this. __________________ Padraigs Myspace - Album Coming Soon

02-15-2006, 11:02 AM	#7
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02-15-2006, 09:12 AM	#2
chris9 ss.org Regular Join Date: May 2005 Location: uk Posts: 421 Thanked: 17	I have just the album i have only had a listen to the first 5 songs but what i have heard so far is really good but just a bit boring its all very similar. This is my first dragon force album are they all like this there just seems to be too many fast songs. I like a few medium tempo songs just to break things up are there some on the album i guess i,ll find out tonight when i listen to the rest.

02-15-2006, 09:23 AM	#3
eaeolian The Church of SEVEN • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Woodbridge, VA Posts: 8,656 Thanked: 34	I've got the whole thing. I don't think it's worth the hype - it's not bad, but it gets same-y VERY fast.

02-15-2006, 11:21 AM	#9
Martin_777 7 String Engineer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: South From Heaven Posts: 631 Thanked: 18 / 1	To my mind their first album "Valley Of The Damned" is the best. The songs are far more catchy and they are not totally obsessed with speed. I love every song on this album which I can't say for "Sonic Firestorm" or "Inhuman Rampage". But maybe it's because I listened to "Valley..." many many many times and the other two just need to grow as Toshiro mentioned. My favourite Dragonforce song is "Black Winter Nights". Their best song ever! __________________ You haven't seen me angry!

02-15-2006, 11:53 AM	#11
Martin_777 7 String Engineer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: South From Heaven Posts: 631 Thanked: 18 / 1	Have a look at this one : The "Studio Recording" section is funny to watch! http://www.dragonforce.com/sound_music_videos1.html __________________ You haven't seen me angry!

02-15-2006, 11:54 AM	#12
Skeksis Closed Eye Visuals Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 144 Thanked: 2 / 1	Every song on the new album sounds the same to me. Really boring to listen to after the first track.

02-15-2006, 07:47 PM	#14
Metal Ken Hates the Air • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 17,674 Thanked: 81	Well, a lot of Powr Metal is pretty formulaic. So, i doesnt come as a surprise to me. However, if it sounds like Dragonforce i'll like it lol. __________________ Since the Bible and the church are obviously mistaken in telling us where we came from, how can we trust them to tell us where we are going? Didn't you say... Jesus was coming?

02-16-2006, 12:19 AM	#15
Digital Black Divinitus Infallibilis Join Date: May 2004 Location: Cleveland , Ohio Posts: 5,323 Thanked: 20	I think the first few songs really kick. after that it gets kinda boring. __________________ Born of Fire//--\\ Consumed by it Divinitus Infallibilis

02-16-2006, 06:45 AM	#16
Lankles Fuelled by Chicken alone. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 480 Thanked: 3	Bizarrely, Dragonforce's incomprehensible speed makes their songs repetitive and dull. That new one for download is pretty damn painful.

02-16-2006, 07:05 AM	#17
darren Decibel Guitars Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Greater Toronto Area, Canada Posts: 10,180 Thanked: 57	Wait, there's actually a band called DragonForce? Is StrongBad their lead singer? TROGDOR... THE BURNINATOR!

02-16-2006, 02:38 PM	#20
Martin_777 7 String Engineer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: South From Heaven Posts: 631 Thanked: 18 / 1	Before they called themselves "Dragonforce" they were named "Dragonheart" but they had to change it. Maybe because of the stupid movie with Dennis Quaid. __________________ You haven't seen me angry!

02-16-2006, 04:06 PM	#22
distressed_romeo Melnibonean Metal! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Melnibone (duh!) Posts: 10,625 Thanked: 230	I don't find them convincing to be honest. They seem just like a parody of a power metal band to me. Don't get me wrong, I love decent power metal like Angra, Sonata Arctica or Kamelot... __________________ Define 'well-adjusted'... http://farsideguitars.blogspot.com/

02-16-2006, 06:23 PM	#25
D-EJ915 <3's Tsukasa Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 18,640 Thanked: 218	Hammerfall \m/ __________________ əBCAir

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