Dino Cazares Drama

shadowlife · 07-18-2008, 12:40 AM

What a mess. I tend to think that if Tommy is as strong as people say, a lot more damage would've been done had he been swinging and connecting. Either way, i'd hate to see one of them killed over this.
Sad.

TomAwesome · 07-18-2008, 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Here's the official statements of Dino and Tommy.

Divine Heresy, Snot, Dino Cazares, Tommy Vext, heavy metal, death metal

This shit just keeps getting more ridiculous.

Nick · 07-18-2008, 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetalJordan

wtf?
shes just saying what happened and her feelings on it she just got the fuck beat out of her...ever heard of sympathy?

not when her statement reeks of bullshit.

fuck it im inclined to believe Tommy Cummings statement more than dinos

Naren · 07-18-2008, 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Here's the official statements of Dino and Tommy.

Divine Heresy, Snot, Dino Cazares, Tommy Vext, heavy metal, death metal

Tommy's made more sense logically than Dino's... hm...

inflames1919 · 07-18-2008, 05:27 AM

I believe Tommy over Dino. Look at Dino's history. The guy falls out with every band he's worked with; He's a control freak.Tommy's statement made a hell of alot more sense than Dinos.

InTheRavensName · 07-18-2008, 05:35 AM

Douchebag, Dino's too nice a guy to deserve that

Nick · 07-18-2008, 05:38 AM

my how the tables have turned lol

S-O · 07-18-2008, 08:22 AM

Dinos a great guy, so is Tommy.

Reading all the statements, and how Dinos and his wifes don't match up well, and how Tommy's is logical with little filler of bullshit compared to the other reports, I believe Tommy.

Tommy is also being much more mature about this.

Groff · 07-18-2008, 08:27 AM

Dino changed his story? Now he threw a beer as they were leaving, then attacked Dino, and his wife only got his when he grabbed his arm?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dino's wife originally

Having a great time with awesome friends backstage. Out of no where comes a beer and fist straight to my face (so horrifying and painful) that.....somebody (Tommy Vext).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy

If I really hit him, you know what he would look like?

He does have a point...

Nick · 07-18-2008, 08:33 AM

i smell shit

The Dark Wolf · 07-18-2008, 08:44 AM

Check your shoes. Dog might've been nearby.

Nick · 07-18-2008, 08:47 AM

S-O · 07-18-2008, 09:12 AM

Dino seems to be spewing shit right now.

Since neither of the 3 stories line up, witnesses need to be drawn in since somebody as a 3rd party has to of seen this shit go down. It's not like they told everyone to turn around or waited until no one was looking.

This is quite stupid, both should just move on. It's not like they don't have bands to go rehearse with.

st2012 · 07-18-2008, 09:43 AM

Maybe it's just me but whatever happened it seems a bit unprofessional of Dino and his wife to start all of this talk with the media and fans. If the authority's are involved then shut your mouth and let them handle it. just my

Groff · 07-18-2008, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st2012

Maybe it's just me but whatever happened it seems a bit unprofessional of Dino and his wife to start all of this talk with the media and fans. If the authority's are involved then shut your mouth and let them handle it. just my

HighGain510 · 07-18-2008, 10:02 AM

This one right here makes you think:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy Cummings

From eyewitness accounts, we determined that Jennifer had jumped on top of me while Dino was on top of me. And when security lifted her off, that’s when she fell down. I have witness accounts that say I never punched her. It was a pathetic fight. It wasn’t even a fight. I mean, look at me. If I really hit him, you know what he would look like? And if I had wanted to hit Jennifer, I mean… She’s a woman. Her face would be broken. You know? It’s just ridiculous. And it’s pathetic that people will buy into this.

Seriously, I don't doubt that some kind of fight went down but if it were anything like the original (I'm going to say "bullshit" honestly) statement from Dino's wife the two of them would be in the hospital. Seriously, a guy as big as him punching her in the face would have broken something and same for Dino. Dino is a large person, but a fist to the face would have done way more damage than what the pictures they posted showed.

I don't think Tommy is a saint by any means, but I know Dino definitely isn't either so I'm not going to judge his character based on, "oh, Dino is such a nice guy!" because I don't hang out with him on a regular basis, so how would you know personally what he's like? You don't. He's got a long history of fucking shit up with his bandmates and burning bridges/leaving a sour taste in everyone's mouth, so I get the feeling that's what happend here and Dino just doesn't know when to quit it. Mix that with someone who clearly has an anger management problem and you get something like what went down here.

Again, if someone the size of Tommy really wanted to hurt you (and if security didn't stop him from taking a shot like Dino said in his "revised" [

] statement), I don't think you'd be walking away with a couple bruises.

I'm kinda curious about this part though:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy Cummings

Dino was thrown out of Fear Factory. He’s been thrown out of every band he’s done. Then he started a new band with a bunch of young kids and he still can’t keep the people in his band. And just so you know, I quit Divine Heresy, I wasn’t fired. Dino is the violent one. He’s assaulted [Divine Heresy drummer] Tim Yeung. The first night I met Tim, Dino got drunk at the Rainbow and beat him up outside of his car on the way back to his house. I thought the band was going to be broken up.

Was there ever any record of Dino attacking Tim Yeung? I never heard about that?

Naren · 07-18-2008, 10:08 AM

^

Nick · 07-18-2008, 10:15 AM

tim yeung could surley kick dino in the face about 60000 times before dino even realised what was happening

CrashRG · 07-18-2008, 10:29 AM

does anyone on this site know either dino or tommy on a personal basis? i dont think anybody here does. was anyone here at the said event that all this shit went down?

i think its just sad that two grown men have to resort to childish bullshit like this. i think both sides are overreacting to this. but more than anything i think its probably one of the lamest things ive ever read. you're out of the band, youre in a re-grouped band, buck up and carry on (although tommy is a decent singer, i dont think he can replace lynn strait by a longshot) dino, get off your fat-ass work with your new singer and forget the grade-school playground shit.

arg.

envenomedcky · 07-18-2008, 10:47 AM

After reading the statements, I definitely believe Tommy more...I'm sure there is BS in there at some points, but not a lot...he admits they exchanged some harsh words with each other, while in Dino's account, he was just minding his own business and out of nowhere he was assaulted...I just don't buy that, it's not very often that one is so mad at somebody that they assault them on site without provocation, I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but in the case of Dino vs. Tommy I Just don't buy it. And if Dino had just said goodbye to his friends in the VIP section, how come nobody came to his help immediately? If they're his friends, they would know about the situation, and Tommy is a big guy, kind of hard to miss, and That big guy fighting with an even bigger Dino? Impossible to miss (unless they weren't in the room anymore, in that case forget all that I said about the vip room).

Anyways. you're adults, act like it, dummies.

Groff · 07-18-2008, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HighGain510

Was there ever any record of Dino attacking Tim Yeung? I never heard about that?

It was mentioned a few times when he quit DH.

EDIT: When I say 'HE' I mean Tommy, not Tim!

msherman · 07-18-2008, 10:54 AM

The funny part of all this is they both seem to be in fear of what happened to Dime. They sure seem to be following the same foot steps leading up to that tragic event with their public feuding.

If they want to fight so much, I have a 10 hp. shaper they can pick a fight with anytime they want to

Nick · 07-18-2008, 11:07 AM

wait? tim yeung quit divine heresy?

Im not that bothered id much rather he was issuing blasphemy with vital remains or something but when did that happen?

S-O · 07-18-2008, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msherman

The funny part of all this is they both seem to be in fear of what happened to Dime. They sure seem to be following the same foot steps leading up to that tragic event with their public feuding.

If they want to fight so much, I have a 10 hp. shaper they can pick a fight with anytime they want to

Thats true. Didn't really consider that.

Also, at the same time, I want the whole thing to play out so I have something to read about when I get back from the 852 mile

road trip back to Ohio from Boston.

st2012 · 07-18-2008, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick

wait? tim yeung quit divine heresy?

Im not that bothered id much rather he was issuing blasphemy with vital remains or something but when did that happen?

This is news to me as well

07-18-2008, 12:40 AM	#76
shadowlife Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 620 Thanked: 11	What a mess. I tend to think that if Tommy is as strong as people say, a lot more damage would've been done had he been swinging and connecting. Either way, i'd hate to see one of them killed over this. Sad. __________________ "There's no reason for a guitarist to have a big ego. You should love the instrument more than wanting to be a rock star."- Randy Rhoads

07-18-2008, 05:35 AM	#81
InTheRavensName Dog says yes ^.^ Yes Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Derby, UK Posts: 2,952 Thanked: 8	Douchebag, Dino's too nice a guy to deserve that __________________ Sabaton

07-18-2008, 08:22 AM	#83
S-O t(-.-t) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ohio, USA Posts: 1,189 Thanked: 7	Dinos a great guy, so is Tommy. Reading all the statements, and how Dinos and his wifes don't match up well, and how Tommy's is logical with little filler of bullshit compared to the other reports, I believe Tommy. Tommy is also being much more mature about this. Last edited by S-O; 07-18-2008 at 08:26 AM. Reason: typo.

07-18-2008, 08:44 AM	#86
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07-18-2008, 05:27 AM	#80
inflames1919 Hellraiser Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 40 Thanked: 4	I believe Tommy over Dino. Look at Dino's history. The guy falls out with every band he's worked with; He's a control freak.Tommy's statement made a hell of alot more sense than Dinos.

07-18-2008, 05:38 AM	#82
Nick Stop the Madness! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: glasgow scotland Posts: 3,008 Thanked: 21	my how the tables have turned lol

07-18-2008, 08:33 AM	#85
Nick Stop the Madness! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: glasgow scotland Posts: 3,008 Thanked: 21	i smell shit

07-18-2008, 08:47 AM	#87
Nick Stop the Madness! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: glasgow scotland Posts: 3,008 Thanked: 21

07-18-2008, 09:12 AM	#88
S-O t(-.-t) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ohio, USA Posts: 1,189 Thanked: 7	Dino seems to be spewing shit right now. Since neither of the 3 stories line up, witnesses need to be drawn in since somebody as a 3rd party has to of seen this shit go down. It's not like they told everyone to turn around or waited until no one was looking. This is quite stupid, both should just move on. It's not like they don't have bands to go rehearse with.

07-18-2008, 09:43 AM	#89
st2012 Texas CEO / RHLC Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 2,425 Thanked: 23	Maybe it's just me but whatever happened it seems a bit unprofessional of Dino and his wife to start all of this talk with the media and fans. If the authority's are involved then shut your mouth and let them handle it. just my

07-18-2008, 10:08 AM	#92
Naren OldschoolGhettostyle Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Tokyo Posts: 12,797 Thanked: 47	^

07-18-2008, 10:15 AM	#93
Nick Stop the Madness! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: glasgow scotland Posts: 3,008 Thanked: 21	tim yeung could surley kick dino in the face about 60000 times before dino even realised what was happening

07-18-2008, 10:29 AM	#94
CrashRG ss.org Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ewing, Missouri Posts: 301 Thanked: 4	does anyone on this site know either dino or tommy on a personal basis? i dont think anybody here does. was anyone here at the said event that all this shit went down? i think its just sad that two grown men have to resort to childish bullshit like this. i think both sides are overreacting to this. but more than anything i think its probably one of the lamest things ive ever read. you're out of the band, youre in a re-grouped band, buck up and carry on (although tommy is a decent singer, i dont think he can replace lynn strait by a longshot) dino, get off your fat-ass work with your new singer and forget the grade-school playground shit. arg.

07-18-2008, 10:47 AM	#95
envenomedcky ss.org Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1,253 Thanked: 28	After reading the statements, I definitely believe Tommy more...I'm sure there is BS in there at some points, but not a lot...he admits they exchanged some harsh words with each other, while in Dino's account, he was just minding his own business and out of nowhere he was assaulted...I just don't buy that, it's not very often that one is so mad at somebody that they assault them on site without provocation, I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but in the case of Dino vs. Tommy I Just don't buy it. And if Dino had just said goodbye to his friends in the VIP section, how come nobody came to his help immediately? If they're his friends, they would know about the situation, and Tommy is a big guy, kind of hard to miss, and That big guy fighting with an even bigger Dino? Impossible to miss (unless they weren't in the room anymore, in that case forget all that I said about the vip room). Anyways. you're adults, act like it, dummies.

07-18-2008, 10:54 AM	#97
msherman Sherman Guitars Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,077 Thanked: 35	The funny part of all this is they both seem to be in fear of what happened to Dime. They sure seem to be following the same foot steps leading up to that tragic event with their public feuding. If they want to fight so much, I have a 10 hp. shaper they can pick a fight with anytime they want to

07-18-2008, 11:07 AM	#98
Nick Stop the Madness! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: glasgow scotland Posts: 3,008 Thanked: 21	wait? tim yeung quit divine heresy? Im not that bothered id much rather he was issuing blasphemy with vital remains or something but when did that happen?

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