So I was listening to the new Dragonforce...

Xaios · 07-06-2008, 08:32 PM

So I was listening to the new DragonForce song on Myspace. The solo kicked in. After a minute or so...

I quite literally fell asleep. I'm not talking just got really bored of it. I mean I really, truly fell asleep. Snoring and everything.

It's so similar to everything on the last album. They've pushed the whole videogame noises thing entirely too far. Not to mention the overabundance of 'power' and utter lack of 'metal' in everything they've done, which is somewhat dissapointing, because they get the occasional riff in that's got some heft. Alas, it seems like everytime they're finally about to bring something meaty to the table, they suddenly do a 180 and swap that nice juicy steak for a giant falsetto marshmallow.

digitaLbraVo · 07-07-2008, 03:15 AM

Sounds like me with every single dragonforce song... I love how they can't even play their "epic solos" exactly the same way live, they just... improvise and it sounds like crap.

Abhorred · 07-07-2008, 04:01 AM

Sounds glorious... forever more-ious.

Guitarwizard · 07-07-2008, 04:03 AM

I remember seing some live vid of them, and the solos really just sounded like random notes played in some random time... I can't imagine how they are able to play their stuff in the studio.

JeddyH · 07-07-2008, 04:29 AM

I can't imagine them playing sober

dougsteele · 07-07-2008, 04:34 AM

See?? All tip, no iceberg.

Nick · 07-07-2008, 05:23 AM

such a crap band, like everyone else says every song sounds the same

lucasreis · 07-07-2008, 06:58 AM

I tried several times and I can´t get into this band. It just doesn´t do anything for me.

But I do respect them.

Rachmaninoff · 07-07-2008, 12:02 PM

Good to know I'm not the only one who dislike this band.
Most of Dragonforce fans I know are below 14 yo and also like people like Rusty Cooley.

JJ Rodriguez · 07-07-2008, 12:11 PM

That's not a fair comparison, Rusty can actually play his shit, and I'm sure he plays it well live. Anyone else seen that video where they slowed Dragonfarce's STUDIO songs down to like half speed and shit, and theres tons of dead notes and stuff? I mean, that's their studio stuff. Sure, they can play better than I can, but that doesn't take much, but I also wouldn't go and record myself trying to do something I can't and then turn around and expect people to buy it.

Mattayus · 07-07-2008, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dougsteele

See?? All tip, no iceberg.

Haha that's such a good way of putting it

DDDorian · 07-07-2008, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ Rodriguez

That's not a fair comparison, Rusty can actually play his shit, and I'm sure he plays it well live. Anyone else seen that video where they slowed Dragonfarce's STUDIO songs down to like half speed and shit, and theres tons of dead notes and stuff? I mean, that's their studio stuff. Sure, they can play better than I can, but that doesn't take much, but I also wouldn't go and record myself trying to do something I can't and then turn around and expect people to buy it.

There are also the ever-present rumours that their recorded stuff is sped up in post-production. I can't listen to them for long enough to really form an opinion, that shit gives me migraines

Groff · 07-07-2008, 12:20 PM

The only song I liked off the last album was "Body Breakdown" because of the cool midsong breakdown and keyboard solo.

I can't say I hate the band though...

Is it just me or does dragonforce put "Far Away" at least ONCE into each of their songs?

noodles · 07-07-2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Xaios

So I was listening to the new DragonForce song on Myspace.

Sorry to hear about that.

Mattayus · 07-07-2008, 04:02 PM

Xaios · 07-07-2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by noodles

Sorry to hear about that.

Thank you for your sympathies, good sir. The experience was remarkably painful in so many ways.

spinecast213 · 07-07-2008, 05:04 PM

i tried to get into them on the last album, but every song sounded exactly alike.

jaredowty · 07-08-2008, 01:37 PM

I can't even wrap my mind around how terrible this band is. I'm usually not that hateful towards music, but bands like Dragonforce just piss me off. Every song is literally the same in melody, arrangement, and overall tone, yet these kids eat it all up because they're on Guitar Hero and MTV told them it's real metal. Not only do they make the cheesiest, most generic bullshit excuse for music; they can't even play their instruments and they're always drunk, arrogant pricks.

UGH · 07-08-2008, 02:44 PM

Aren't they one of these Pro Tools bands? From everything I've read I believe they just hammer out take after take and then piece it all together. From what I understand this is also the modus operandi of a lot of these metalcore "bands" that just chug out a bunch of mindless riffage and cut and paste the fuck out of 'em. Music? Hardly!

st2012 · 07-08-2008, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rachmaninoff

Good to know I'm not the only one who dislike this band.
Most of Dragonforce fans I know are below 14 yo and also like people like Rusty Cooley.

Thats about the worst comparison I've ever heard. Have you listened to any Outworld or are you basing your opinion on the 30 second clips of RC that you saw on youtube?

Gilbucci · 07-08-2008, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMissing

The only song I liked off the last album was "Body Breakdown" because of the cool midsong breakdown and keyboard solo.

I can't say I hate the band though...

Is it just me or does dragonforce put "Far Away" at least ONCE into each of their songs?

I noticed that as well. It's almost as bad as Zakk Wylde and his use of the word 'child' I swear to God I hear that AT LEAST 3 times in each of his songs.

haffner1 · 07-08-2008, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Gilbucci

I noticed that as well. It's almost as bad as Zakk Wylde and his use of the word 'child' I swear to God I hear that AT LEAST 3 times in each of his songs.

I like Nevermore, but do you ever notice how Warrell Dane is always saying "my friend". Even since Sanctuary.

Brendan G · 07-08-2008, 04:20 PM

A friend of mine once went to a dragonforce show once, and at the time he only knew that through the fire and flames song or something because it was on guitar hero. And the first song when the chorus came up he was like "Yeah this is it!" a couple of seconds later, he realized it wasn't it, next song came up, same deal, after about 6 songs in, he remembered the exact words and finally they started playing that song

Groff · 07-08-2008, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by haffner1

I like Nevermore, but do you ever notice how Warrell Dane is always saying "my friend". Even since Sanctuary.

Or 'pigs' on TGE.

Akerfeldt from Opeth says "Demise" a lot too.

Thin_Ice_77 · 07-08-2008, 04:31 PM

I love DragonForce.

Going to see them in September and I can't wait. The difference is, I'm not one of those fans that think they're the best guitarists evar and all that crap. I think they're good players, just a bit sloppy live... and to be fair nobody mentions the other members. Vadim (keys) and Dave (drums) are always 1000% accurate when playing live.

I liked Dragonforce since Valley of the Damned back in '03 and I'm not gonna change my mind because narrow minded people say "Oh, it all sounds the same, they suck live, blah blah".

07-06-2008, 08:32 PM	#1
Xaios Foolish Mortal Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Whitehorse, Yukon, Canada Posts: 2,132 Thanked: 49 $Xaios is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Xaios is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Xaios is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Xaios is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Xaios is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Xaios is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Xaios is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$	So I was listening to the new Dragonforce... So I was listening to the new DragonForce song on Myspace. The solo kicked in. After a minute or so... I quite literally fell asleep. I'm not talking just got really bored of it. I mean I really, truly fell asleep. Snoring and everything. It's so similar to everything on the last album. They've pushed the whole videogame noises thing entirely too far. Not to mention the overabundance of 'power' and utter lack of 'metal' in everything they've done, which is somewhat dissapointing, because they get the occasional riff in that's got some heft. Alas, it seems like everytime they're finally about to bring something meaty to the table, they suddenly do a 180 and swap that nice juicy steak for a giant falsetto marshmallow.

07-07-2008, 04:03 AM	#4
Guitarwizard Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Zurich, Switzerland Posts: 299 Thanked: 22	I remember seing some live vid of them, and the solos really just sounded like random notes played in some random time... I can't imagine how they are able to play their stuff in the studio. __________________ If you change 4 letters in "Mama", it's "Beer"! Me: myspace.com/odilovonins My Band: myspace.com/legendaaureaofficial

07-07-2008, 04:34 AM	#6
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07-07-2008, 12:20 PM	#13
Groff Medicine Chief/RHLC© Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: South Jersey Posts: 6,627 Thanked: 245	The only song I liked off the last album was "Body Breakdown" because of the cool midsong breakdown and keyboard solo. I can't say I hate the band though... Is it just me or does dragonforce put "Far Away" at least ONCE into each of their songs? __________________ AHHH MOTHERLAND! All hail soviet Arktanistan-Groffistan! Formerly TheMissing

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07-07-2008, 03:15 AM	#2
digitaLbraVo Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: La Habra, CA Posts: 54 Thanked: 0	Sounds like me with every single dragonforce song... I love how they can't even play their "epic solos" exactly the same way live, they just... improvise and it sounds like crap.

07-07-2008, 04:01 AM	#3
Abhorred Laurite Imp Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 808 Thanked: 33	Sounds glorious... forever more-ious.

07-07-2008, 04:29 AM	#5
JeddyH ss.org Regular Join Date: May 2008 Location: Phillip Island, VIC Posts: 97 Thanked: 3 / 1	I can't imagine them playing sober

07-07-2008, 05:23 AM	#7
Nick Stop the Madness! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: glasgow scotland Posts: 3,008 Thanked: 21	such a crap band, like everyone else says every song sounds the same

07-07-2008, 06:58 AM	#8
lucasreis siersacul Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: São Paulo, Brazil Posts: 1,030 Thanked: 13	I tried several times and I can´t get into this band. It just doesn´t do anything for me. But I do respect them.

07-07-2008, 12:02 PM	#9
Rachmaninoff Amateur porn actor Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brazil Posts: 285 Thanked: 8	Good to know I'm not the only one who dislike this band. Most of Dragonforce fans I know are below 14 yo and also like people like Rusty Cooley.

07-07-2008, 12:11 PM	#10
JJ Rodriguez Pantysniffing zombie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 10,303 Thanked: 71	That's not a fair comparison, Rusty can actually play his shit, and I'm sure he plays it well live. Anyone else seen that video where they slowed Dragonfarce's STUDIO songs down to like half speed and shit, and theres tons of dead notes and stuff? I mean, that's their studio stuff. Sure, they can play better than I can, but that doesn't take much, but I also wouldn't go and record myself trying to do something I can't and then turn around and expect people to buy it.

07-07-2008, 05:04 PM	#17
spinecast213 Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: huntsville, AL Posts: 101 Thanked: 2	i tried to get into them on the last album, but every song sounded exactly alike.

07-08-2008, 01:37 PM	#18
jaredowty ss.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Missoula, Montana Posts: 722 Thanked: 9	I can't even wrap my mind around how terrible this band is. I'm usually not that hateful towards music, but bands like Dragonforce just piss me off. Every song is literally the same in melody, arrangement, and overall tone, yet these kids eat it all up because they're on Guitar Hero and MTV told them it's real metal. Not only do they make the cheesiest, most generic bullshit excuse for music; they can't even play their instruments and they're always drunk, arrogant pricks. __________________ Born in Memory - Montana Metal

07-08-2008, 02:44 PM	#19
UGH willn't Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 350 Thanked: 0	Aren't they one of these Pro Tools bands? From everything I've read I believe they just hammer out take after take and then piece it all together. From what I understand this is also the modus operandi of a lot of these metalcore "bands" that just chug out a bunch of mindless riffage and cut and paste the fuck out of 'em. Music? Hardly! __________________ METAL does not care what you do or do not understand...

07-08-2008, 04:20 PM	#23
Brendan G What is this then? Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Frederick Maryland Posts: 1,296 Thanked: 10	A friend of mine once went to a dragonforce show once, and at the time he only knew that through the fire and flames song or something because it was on guitar hero. And the first song when the chorus came up he was like "Yeah this is it!" a couple of seconds later, he realized it wasn't it, next song came up, same deal, after about 6 songs in, he remembered the exact words and finally they started playing that song __________________ Me on youtube and myspace http://www.youtube.com/user/BGood156 http://www.myspace.com/brendangoodmusics

07-08-2008, 04:31 PM	#25
Thin_Ice_77 You'll never make it Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 1,921 Thanked: 52	I love DragonForce. Going to see them in September and I can't wait. The difference is, I'm not one of those fans that think they're the best guitarists evar and all that crap. I think they're good players, just a bit sloppy live... and to be fair nobody mentions the other members. Vadim (keys) and Dave (drums) are always 1000% accurate when playing live. I liked Dragonforce since Valley of the Damned back in '03 and I'm not gonna change my mind because narrow minded people say "Oh, it all sounds the same, they suck live, blah blah".

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