[Unknown Doodl3.2]

You guys don't get that this isn't just a band that radically changes. This for many is like Dream Theater where Petrucci and Labrie leave and then Portnoy hires new guns to release a punk rock record under the same band name. (Though it might not be as bad if Labrie left )

Release whatever you want, even if its completely different. Just don't throw a hissy fit when your longtime fans nail you for it and then make fun of them in a very sarcastic way. IMO very uncool.

The new album isn't even all that brutal compared to real Cryptopsy too. It's boring, lifeless, and sounds like everything else that's out there. They shoulda just called it quits when Levasseur left. All Flo did is drive the band into the ground.

/rant

[Crucified]

Originally Posted by petereanima

hm, generally spoken: if the only founding member left is and always has been the main-songwriter i wouldn't see a problem in continuing with the old name/band.

I don't think so. In my opinion if you are the only member left you should bail on the whole thing unless you've always only used hired guns. In this case the drummer didn't write anything so i'm just butt-hurt that the new music sucks so bad and that they are making fun of everyone that got them to where they are now. It's like a slap in the face to the canadian metal scene. "Thanks for all the support, now it's time to make some cash"

[Seedawakener]

Originally Posted by JJ Rodriguez

I don't find the track funny, as I'm one of the people it's poking fun at. I've seen Cryptopsy live a couple of times with Worm, and bought their merch and shit, so I've supported them. I've been a fan since I got into death metal, and I dislike their new stuff, so I kind of take offense to it, since I've put money in their pocket. Fuck Cryptopsy.

But have you not got the things the things you say you payed for? They are not taking back all the records they have released to rerelease them sounding like emo-music. This is a NEW record that sucks, and they are just mocking the people saying that this is the worst thing to have ever happened to humanity. I know quite a few people who are purely death metal fans and tr00 and grim and some of them really are very narrowminded like this. I'm not saying all of them are, but releasing an album with a drastically changed style of music and then getting told to go to hell just because you have clean vox and such, no matter how bad it sounds is just silly. Just don't buy the damn album.

[Drage]

Originally Posted by Unknown Doodl3.2

(Though it might not be as bad if Labrie left )

[auxioluck]

The way I look at it is that Cryptopsy was so underground that I think the fans (including myself) took a big amount of pride knowing who they were, because especially here in the States, NO ONE knows who Cryptopsy is. Of course, now the number is growing, thanks to Summer Slaughter, but all the newfound scene fans will never know the pride and ownership that once existed with the original Cryptopsy fans, when you knew that you had a jem in your CD case that no one ever knew about. This is why it sucks so bad to see what was once a heavily influential band in grindcore/death metal, ESPECIALLY in Canada, turn towards a more mass-produced sound. A band that was once a leader in the metal movement has now become a follower. It's hard to watch.

[Unknown Doodl3.2]

Originally Posted by auxioluck

The way I look at it is that Cryptopsy was so underground that I think the fans (including myself) took a big amount of pride knowing who they were, because especially here in the States, NO ONE knows who Cryptopsy is. Of course, now the number is growing, thanks to Summer Slaughter, but all the newfound scene fans will never know the pride and ownership that once existed with the original Cryptopsy fans, when you knew that you had a jem in your CD case that no one ever knew about. This is why it sucks so bad to see what was once a heavily influential band in grindcore/death metal, ESPECIALLY in Canada, turn towards a more mass-produced sound. A band that was once a leader in the metal movement has now become a follower. It's hard to watch.

+1. Great post!

[DDDorian]

For me this has nothing about how "underground" Cryptopsy are and a whole lot to do with them changing their sound in an obvious attempt to make money and then having the audacity to turn on their fans for not going along with their bullshit. It's not as if they're going to sell many more albums, either, because regardless of how trendy their sound might be, the songs still blow.

[Unknown Doodl3.2]

I don't think Flo dramatically changed the sound just for Money. He's been pretty active on the Cryptopsy forums recently and you can tell he's sincerely convinced that he's doing the band a favor with The Unspoken King

The sellout card gets thrown around WAYYYY too much IMO

[JJ Rodriguez]

Originally Posted by Seedawakener

But have you not got the things the things you say you payed for? They are not taking back all the records they have released to rerelease them sounding like emo-music. This is a NEW record that sucks, and they are just mocking the people saying that this is the worst thing to have ever happened to humanity. I know quite a few people who are purely death metal fans and tr00 and grim and some of them really are very narrowminded like this. I'm not saying all of them are, but releasing an album with a drastically changed style of music and then getting told to go to hell just because you have clean vox and such, no matter how bad it sounds is just silly. Just don't buy the damn album.

It's not the issue of whether or not I still have my shit I paid for, it's the fact that I have given them money, and now they are shit talking me. This is probably one of the worst travesties to happen to Canadian metal, not humanity. Cryptopsy used to be something to be proud of in the Canadian metal scene, since I'm more into grind/death metal, I'd rate them higher than Martyr. Now they're just some gay scene band. I mean, Once Was Not was a huge pile of shit, actually, I don't think I enjoyed the album before that that much either, but at least it wasn't THIS gay. No wonder Worm left if this is what the rest of them were plotting, especially since Worm is a huge fan of grim black metal.

[Unknown Doodl3.2]

Don't forget Jon Levasseur who left during the writing process of Once was Not I think Although IMO that album would have been great if it didn't have the most terrible mix and production of any metal album in the past 15 years.