Is it just me or do people on the meshuggah forum seem really negative?

Wolfster · 06-07-2008, 10:01 AM

This may seem a tad bitchy and what not, but im not trying to draw comparisons and say sevenstring.org is better etc, neither am i slating the meshuggah forum. But in my experience when ive posted new music up or links people on that forum have been nothing but arseholes and been totally negative. I mean if your not going to say something productive why bother saying anything at all.
Is it just me or have other people experienced this?

stuh84 · 06-07-2008, 10:05 AM

You have to understand, over there its going to be a high quantity of people who view Meshuggah as their favourite band, and some will expect nothing but Meshuggah clones.

Over here, you have people listening to pretty much anything, as this place isn't limited to fans of a certain band, so there are likely to more people like your music than dont. Also, most people on here are pretty laid back and if they don't like your music, they'll just look at another thread.

Wolfster · 06-07-2008, 10:10 AM

Well thats interesting because some of the guys always seem to call stuff i post really derivative and just copying meshuggah sikth dillinger etc. so it cant be that they are just expecting to hear meshuggah clones. dont get it

stuh84 · 06-07-2008, 10:20 AM

Yeah, but they still worship the bands which clone Meshuggah

, because its not a clone, they wont like it, hell they'd probably say my stuff copies Meshuggah and its nowhere near, yet if I became the next Coprofago they'd be all over it.

At the end of the day though, I wouldn't worry about it, its only one forum, about 3 or 4 people on it at that. The Meshuggah forum is one of the slowest moving forums too, used to be pretty vibrant over there but thats about 5 years ago.

MerlinTKD · 06-07-2008, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuh84

You have to understand, over there its going to be a high quantity of people who view Meshuggah as their favourite band, and some will expect nothing but Meshuggah clones.

Over here, you have people listening to pretty much anything, as this place isn't limited to fans of a certain band, so there are likely to more people like your music than dont. Also, most people on here are pretty laid back and if they don't like your music, they'll just look at another thread.

Exactly.

Plus, I've found the general attitude of this board to be welcoming and friendly. This is a reflection of the owner and moderators - well done, guys!

I'm still looking for a drumming forum with this kind of quality...

Chris · 06-07-2008, 10:26 AM

I have nothing good to say about this thread, and my morning coffee is half empty.

Screw you all!

stuh84 · 06-07-2008, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris

This thread's stupid, and my morning coffee is half empty.

Screw you all!

You're half empty

Chris · 06-07-2008, 10:29 AM

[action=Chris]is actually drinking tea, and the glass is almost full![/action]

technomancer · 06-07-2008, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris

[action=Chris]is actually drinking tea, and the glass is almost full![/action]

There's your problem, go get some coffee

Chris · 06-07-2008, 10:33 AM

I gave up coffee for lent two years ago and have had maybe 10 cups total since then.

Coffee makes me want to smoke. ;(

[action=Chris]has ruined this thread[/action]

stuh84 · 06-07-2008, 10:43 AM

Take it to off topic

GuitarG2 · 06-07-2008, 10:59 AM

Yeah, the Meshuggah forum is really negative. Most of them just bitch constantly about how crap they think Meshuggah are nowadays. In fact, half of the posts don't make any sense. When you try and post, I find you have no idea what the hell other people are on about. What's the general consensus? WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!!!!!???!?!???!?

OK, rant over.

Wolfster · 06-07-2008, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MerlinTKD

Exactly.

Plus, I've found the general attitude of this board to be welcoming and friendly.

As have I, and now i appreciate it more. If you check the meshuggah forum Ive posted a link in the other bands section, about If Fire Would Fall, read what they say if your interested.

cow 7 sig · 06-07-2008, 11:51 AM

with the exception of the members that i know from this fine establishment that post on the mesh forum,i find the great majority to be a bunch of immature negative assholes who like nothing more than to flame and generally make one feel not welcome.

Karl Hungus · 06-07-2008, 12:05 PM

I find it's the same with any band specific forum, you get a lot of asstards. I would rarely, if ever, visit the forums of even my favourite bands. Hell, even the brand specific guitar forums are full of jerks a lot of the time, I can't stand the Ibanez board for example.

But then again, I find it rare to ever, ever get a forum that comes close to how awesome this one is. You guys are the best.

telecaster90 · 06-07-2008, 12:15 PM

06-07-2008, 12:16 PM

I don't think they are negative but maybe a bit close minded from time to time.

Mattayus · 06-07-2008, 01:03 PM

yeah, and close-mindedness breeds negativity! I remember you complaining about this before Nik, just tell'em to .... off. You're music's good, very ....in good, it's only cos it's not br00tuhlz and tr00.

So, what did they say exactly? if u don't mind spilling...

bulb · 06-07-2008, 01:09 PM

aww i love that forum, but i have been there forever since it was my very firstest!

FortePenance · 06-07-2008, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl Hungus

I find it's the same with any band specific forum, you get a lot of asstards. I would rarely, if ever, visit the forums of even my favourite bands. Hell, even the brand specific guitar forums are full of jerks a lot of the time, I can't stand the Ibanez board for example.

But then again, I find it rare to ever, ever get a forum that comes close to how awesome this one is. You guys are the best.

Ibanez board is eh alright, I just find the forum system they run to be a bit

. Also like 3/5 words you write are censored whereas here I can say .... shit .......

When I went to the Mesh forum it seemed like the entire place was packed full of inside jokes everyone laughed at and I was just ?_?

Bulbinator posts there some bit though.

06-07-2008, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FortePenance

Ibanez board is eh alright, I just find the forum system they run to be a bit

. Also like 3/5 words you write are censored whereas here I can say .... shit .......

When I went to the Mesh forum it seemed like the entire place was packed full of inside jokes everyone laughed at and I was just ?_?

Bulbinator posts there some bit though.

The mesh forum definitely has an "in"-crowd, and it's to small to have groups. over here we have enough members to have different groupings.

D-EJ915 · 06-07-2008, 01:29 PM

there's definitely certain types of people who go to certain forums, like JCF is mainly 30+ year old dudes who grew up in the 80s and the ESP forum is teenage guys with some dudes over 20 who just like posting stupid shit all day.

meshuggah's definitely a band who has a giant following of "anything but meshuggah sucks" mentality people, same deal with metallica, etc.

Wolfster · 06-07-2008, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattayus

yeah, and close-mindedness breeds negativity! I remember you complaining about this before Nik, just tell'em to .... off. You're music's good, very ....in good, it's only cos it's not br00tuhlz and tr00.

So, what did they say exactly? if u don't mind spilling...

Just that the music was boring and that we were copying other bands too much.check the thread if your interested.(on the meshuggah forum i have already said where earlier in this thread)Dont get me wrong i dont mind constructive criticism, but their comments were just childish.

By the way Bulb if you read this and have read the thread i posted on the meshuggah forum, I think your music's awesome, was just using your style being influenced by meshuggah as an example to counter what the guys were saying.

stuh84 · 06-07-2008, 04:16 PM

Yeah you are always going to get people like that everywhere, its the problem with metal sometimes, people hold stuff close to their heart, so unless its repeating what they already like, or is something that completely sideswipes them out of nowhere, they are going to complain, I'm guilty of it myself on occasion.

However, don't worry about it, every band gets the same thing from someone, you just have to take what they say with a pinch of salt, sometimes wonder if some things they have to say are valid (i.e. listen to your own music objectively and see if you can hear anything from any other bands they mentioned), but then get on with what you are doing.

There's enough people ragging on Metallica all the time, but it doesn't stop them selling out gigs on a regular basis, and still has people interested in them after 4 albums that many people do not care for. As long as you feel you are getting what you want across with the music, then that is what matters, and if people like it or not, then thats their problem, not yours

Louseman · 07-21-2008, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuh84

You have to understand, over there its going to be a high quantity of people who view Meshuggah as their favourite band, and some will expect nothing but Meshuggah clones.

No.

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuh84

Yeah, but they still worship the bands which clone Meshuggah

, because its not a clone, they wont like it,

No no no no.

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06-07-2008, 10:01 AM	#1
Wolfster SS.org Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: London,UK Posts: 367 Thanked: 14 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Is it just me or do people on the meshuggah forum seem really negative? This may seem a tad bitchy and what not, but im not trying to draw comparisons and say sevenstring.org is better etc, neither am i slating the meshuggah forum. But in my experience when ive posted new music up or links people on that forum have been nothing but arseholes and been totally negative. I mean if your not going to say something productive why bother saying anything at all. Is it just me or have other people experienced this?

06-07-2008, 10:05 AM	#2
stuh84 The Viking himself Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 3,717 Thanked: 37 $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 2 reviews	You have to understand, over there its going to be a high quantity of people who view Meshuggah as their favourite band, and some will expect nothing but Meshuggah clones. Over here, you have people listening to pretty much anything, as this place isn't limited to fans of a certain band, so there are likely to more people like your music than dont. Also, most people on here are pretty laid back and if they don't like your music, they'll just look at another thread. End Of Eternity - Symphonic Prog Metal from the UK ¯\(°_o)/¯

06-07-2008, 10:20 AM	#4
stuh84 The Viking himself Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 3,717 Thanked: 37 $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Yeah, but they still worship the bands which clone Meshuggah , because its not a clone, they wont like it, hell they'd probably say my stuff copies Meshuggah and its nowhere near, yet if I became the next Coprofago they'd be all over it. At the end of the day though, I wouldn't worry about it, its only one forum, about 3 or 4 people on it at that. The Meshuggah forum is one of the slowest moving forums too, used to be pretty vibrant over there but thats about 5 years ago. End Of Eternity - Symphonic Prog Metal from the UK ¯\(°_o)/¯

06-07-2008, 10:26 AM	#6
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06-07-2008, 10:10 AM	#3
Wolfster SS.org Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: London,UK Posts: 367 Thanked: 14 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Well thats interesting because some of the guys always seem to call stuff i post really derivative and just copying meshuggah sikth dillinger etc. so it cant be that they are just expecting to hear meshuggah clones. dont get it

06-07-2008, 10:29 AM	#8
Chris metalguitarist.org Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boston, Mass Posts: 16,693 Thanked: 570 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	[action=Chris]is actually drinking tea, and the glass is almost full![/action] Amp: 6505+ / Recto 4x12s Rack: Axe-Fx II / HD1221s

06-07-2008, 10:33 AM	#10
Chris metalguitarist.org Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boston, Mass Posts: 16,693 Thanked: 570 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	I gave up coffee for lent two years ago and have had maybe 10 cups total since then. Coffee makes me want to smoke. ;( [action=Chris]has ruined this thread[/action] Amp: 6505+ / Recto 4x12s Rack: Axe-Fx II / HD1221s

06-07-2008, 10:43 AM	#11
stuh84 The Viking himself Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 3,717 Thanked: 37 $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Take it to off topic End Of Eternity - Symphonic Prog Metal from the UK ¯\(°_o)/¯

06-07-2008, 10:59 AM	#12
GuitarG2 ss.org Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brightonish, UK Posts: 254 Thanked: 8 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah, the Meshuggah forum is really negative. Most of them just bitch constantly about how crap they think Meshuggah are nowadays. In fact, half of the posts don't make any sense. When you try and post, I find you have no idea what the hell other people are on about. What's the general consensus? WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!!!!!???!?!???!? OK, rant over. I'm going to Iowa for an award. Then I'm appearing at Carnegie Hall, it's sold out. Then I'm sailing to France to be honored by the French government. I'd give it all up for one erection. — Groucho Marx

06-07-2008, 11:51 AM	#14
cow 7 sig AU director / RHLC © Join Date: May 2007 Location: lost in west oz Posts: 2,041 Thanked: 14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	with the exception of the members that i know from this fine establishment that post on the mesh forum,i find the great majority to be a bunch of immature negative assholes who like nothing more than to flame and generally make one feel not welcome. do you have a fetish for reverse heads stocks?,do you find your self sweating or drooling over the site of a reverse head stock? if the answer is yes then i can help with therapy and rehab.join RHLC to feel normal again.....first consult free,normal rates apply after..LOL Rock The Fuck Out ..DAN/CYBERSYN NOS tube freak MESA OWNERS CLUB MEMBER..R-014XXX

06-07-2008, 12:05 PM	#15
Karl Hungus You're no daisy. Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ireland Posts: 4,181 Thanked: 225 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I find it's the same with any band specific forum, you get a lot of asstards. I would rarely, if ever, visit the forums of even my favourite bands. Hell, even the brand specific guitar forums are full of jerks a lot of the time, I can't stand the Ibanez board for example. But then again, I find it rare to ever, ever get a forum that comes close to how awesome this one is. You guys are the best. "Does the brain control you or are you controlling the brain? I don't know if I'm in charge of mine." - Karl Pilkington

06-07-2008, 12:15 PM	#16
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06-07-2008, 12:16 PM	#17
Desecrated Dirty Lurker Posts: n/a	I don't think they are negative but maybe a bit close minded from time to time.

06-07-2008, 01:03 PM	#18
Mattayus Sir Groove-A-Lot Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cambridgeshire, UK Posts: 5,345 Thanked: 211 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	yeah, and close-mindedness breeds negativity! I remember you complaining about this before Nik, just tell'em to .... off. You're music's good, very ....in good, it's only cos it's not br00tuhlz and tr00. So, what did they say exactly? if u don't mind spilling... *"The sort of twee person who thinks swearing is in any way a sign of a lack of education or of a lack of verbal interest is just a ....ing lunatic"* - Stephen Fry Recording. Mixing. Mastering. ReAmping. Editing

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06-07-2008, 01:29 PM	#22
D-EJ915 <3's Tsukasa Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 18,736 Thanked: 219 Feedback Score: 6 reviews	there's definitely certain types of people who go to certain forums, like JCF is mainly 30+ year old dudes who grew up in the 80s and the ESP forum is teenage guys with some dudes over 20 who just like posting stupid shit all day. meshuggah's definitely a band who has a giant following of "anything but meshuggah sucks" mentality people, same deal with metallica, etc. əBCAir

06-07-2008, 04:16 PM	#24
stuh84 The Viking himself Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 3,717 Thanked: 37 $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Yeah you are always going to get people like that everywhere, its the problem with metal sometimes, people hold stuff close to their heart, so unless its repeating what they already like, or is something that completely sideswipes them out of nowhere, they are going to complain, I'm guilty of it myself on occasion. However, don't worry about it, every band gets the same thing from someone, you just have to take what they say with a pinch of salt, sometimes wonder if some things they have to say are valid (i.e. listen to your own music objectively and see if you can hear anything from any other bands they mentioned), but then get on with what you are doing. There's enough people ragging on Metallica all the time, but it doesn't stop them selling out gigs on a regular basis, and still has people interested in them after 4 albums that many people do not care for. As long as you feel you are getting what you want across with the music, then that is what matters, and if people like it or not, then thats their problem, not yours End Of Eternity - Symphonic Prog Metal from the UK ¯\(°_o)/¯

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