[ArchAngel1024]

Originally Posted by ZeroSignal

Ok. I think this has seriously got a bit out of hand. The OP was just looking for some bands that he can relate to on a lifestyle level. I can relate to that as someone who is straight edge.

I wouldn't go far enough to dislike a band because of drug use (unless they're promoting it. I'd say that most of my musical heroes have used drugs at one time or another (Vai, Satch, Borland, etc.) and it would be nice to have guys dong similar things as you so you don't feel... well... separate is the only word that really comes to mind. I can relate to how he's feeling.

And 7SoH: stop acting so god damn persecuted.

Thank you! this is exactly what I was about to say.

I'm just looking for some bands that are straight edge/sober and bringing up Claypool and Tool was just a kind of introduction/related matter.

And on the matter of Maynard Keenan, since he had a kid, he sobered up. The album 13th Step (A perfect circle) is actually about the recovery of friends of his from drugs, from their perspectives. He's also had a lot of anger issues (he was a marine-veteran and his mom was confined to a wheelchair for life, but was devoted to her religion, he couldn't understand that having been in war, and lashed out in a bunch of ways, their early work is a strong reflection of that).

I didn't say that I wasn't going to keep listening to the bands, just that I was disappointed in finding out that some of these guys weren't always sober.

Now, share some good bands that are straight-edge/sober most of the time

BTBAM is a vegan band btw.

[ZeroSignal]

Originally Posted by ArchAngel1024

Thank you! this is exactly what I was about to say.

I'm just looking for some bands that are straight edge/sober and bringing up Claypool and Tool was just a kind of introduction/related matter.

And on the matter of Maynard Keenan, since he had a kid, he sobered up. The album 13th Step (A perfect circle) is actually about the recovery of friends of his from drugs, from their perspectives. He's also had a lot of anger issues (he was a marine-veteran and his mom was confined to a wheelchair for life, but was devoted to her religion, he couldn't understand that having been in war, and lashed out in a bunch of ways, their early work is a strong reflection of that).

I didn't say that I wasn't going to keep listening to the bands, just that I was disappointed in finding out that some of these guys weren't always sober.

Now, share some good bands that are straight-edge/sober most of the time

BTBAM is a vegan band btw.

No probs man. We're a rare breed anyway.

Are BTBAM straight edge or not then?

And vegans scare the shit out of me...

[ArchAngel1024]

Originally Posted by ZeroSignal

No probs man. We're a rare breed anyway.

Are BTBAM straight edge or not then?

And vegans scare the shit out of me...

I think they are, or at least some of them.

And vegans are like nazi's or something, they parade about saying meat is murder O.o

I was in Vermont at a Static-X show in October and there was a car with a license plate that said VEGAN1 and they had leather interiors. I laughed, hard.

[ZeroSignal]

Originally Posted by ArchAngel1024

I think they are, or at least some of them.

And vegans are like nazi's or something, they parade about saying meat is murder O.o

I was in Vermont at a Static-X show in October and there was a car with a license plate that said VEGAN1 and they had leather interiors. I laughed, hard.

Right now is the first time I listened to them and I like what I hear.

Vegans are psychos! They won't use ANYTHING to do with animals. And if you do then you are the scum of the Earth. Think PETA "Fur is murder!" but irrationally so. I'm incredibly pro-animal rights and I love the 'lil buggers but there's such thing as taking it too far.

And that's funny stuff dude! Maybe he was being ironic?

[ArchAngel1024]

Originally Posted by ZeroSignal

Right now is the first time I listened to them and I like what I hear.

Vegans are psychos! They won't use ANYTHING to do with animals. And if you do then you are the scum of the Earth. Think PETA "Fur is murder!" but irrationally so. I'm incredibly pro-animal rights and I love the 'lil buggers but there's such thing as taking it too far.

And that's funny stuff dude! Maybe he was being ironic?

If you mean BTBAM, listen to "Ants of The Sky" form Colors, and "Selkies:The Endless Obsession" from Alaska


If you mean Static-X, anything off Start a War and Wisconsin Death Trip.

And it was pretty ridiculous at the time xD

[Ancestor]

You can't be a great artist and still be "normal". I think some artists alter their chemistry to try to be less normal and some alter it to escape pain. There are "sober" artists, but what does that mean? To me, not much. No human can be perfect in every way. I know a lot of abstainers that are absolutely insufferable.

[Edroz]

i drink to this thread

[Zepp88]

Originally Posted by neon_black88

I deffenetly would not recommend smoking weed while on LSD if your trying to calm down. It intensifies the trip 2x. Out of the two times i've smoked weed while on acid, the first one I was stuck under a tree staring at it for a couple of hours. The second time I layed down on my bed for a couple of hours. So I guess your right in a way, that it makes you not want to move or talk to anyone. But it usually puts your mind into overdrive and makes things much more confusing, while normally im happy to walk around to talk to people.

Anyway the point is, don't combine them your first time, its a totally different experience to just tripping by itself. Other downers are different though.

Wow this thread has gone in the complete wrong direction than was intended. Sorry for derail.

I would think that interaction with others (preferably others on the same "plane" as you at the time ) would be a good thing. Isolating behavior I think it one of the most dangerous things you can do to your self with drugs, the drug could become your only "friend" and all you really care about.

Also, about the thread getting out of hand, it certainly has gone farther than the intention of the original post, but I like the discussion. Talking about drugs and revealing truths and misconceptions is always an interesting topic.

[Codyyy]

Dude, I would want to try LSD, but I'm already a paranoid mess. And I feel like I would take it, become paranoid about having a bad trip, and thus throw myself into a bad trip.

[Zepp88]

Originally Posted by Codyyy

Dude, I would want to try LSD, but I'm already a paranoid mess. And I feel like I would take it, become paranoid about having a bad trip, and thus throw myself into a bad trip.

Yeah.


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