[neon_black88]

Originally Posted by God Hand Apostle

Check yourself. sheesh.

By the way, Paul Mazurkiewicz is the only vegetarian member of Cannibal.

This is comming from VEGANSTRAIGHEDGE. Right....



Vegatarian?

[7 Strings of Hate]

Originally Posted by Paul Warren

I haven't read the entire thread (it's a biggie ), but I can comment on what I do know. Petrucci is VERY anti drug and we have it as an understanding to keep anything drug related off of his forum. Bumblefoot and Mattias Eklundh are also very anti drug. In fact, I've noticed that most of the "guitar heroes" I've either worked with or hired for events are super clean. Andy Timmons, JP, IA, Bumblefoot, Vinnie Moore, etc. are just focused on having fun creating music. I think it's a huge part of why they are successful and have such longevity in the industry. I refuse to work with anybody who is an illegal drug user or a drunk. Life is too short and there are plenty of people out there willing to have fun making music without those negative influences.

paul

perhapse judge people by their skill and work ethic rather than what the do with their personal time, those guys have the drive. just because you do drugs doesnt mean you cant have a drive to sucseed. if that was the case aerosmith, elton john, eric clapton...ect, all of which had drug issues at one time or another would not be where they are today

[Randy]

Originally Posted by 7 Strings of Hate

perhapse judge people by their skill and work ethic rather than what the do with their personal time, those guys have the drive. just because you do drugs doesnt mean you cant have a drive to sucseed. if that was the case aerosmith, elton john, eric clapton...ect, all of which had drug issues at one time or another would not be where they are today

I can't speak for the rest of them, but some of the shitty performances that went on during Aerosmith's heavy drug-abuse days should've sunk their carrier, because they were embarrassingly bad.

[7 Strings of Hate]

but does that mean they didnt have the drive to get back up on the horse again?

[Leon]

well, they apparently had the drive to get their drug habits under control enough for them to continue on

[ZeroSignal]

Originally Posted by neon_black88

Or mabye some people CAN, and choose to do drugs anyway. Theres no deep seeded problem in someones head because they do drugs. Theres probably people who are much more grounded than you who do drugs.

Stop talking about everyone who chooses to do something you dont like your above them or know something they dont. It's really, really condensending and obnoctious.

No your right, any drug that has been deemed illegal by the government=satan.

Easy tiger. Don't get ahead of yourself there... :rawr:




Satan Whatever.

[God Hand Apostle]

Originally Posted by neon_black88

This is comming from VEGANSTRAIGHEDGE. Right....

No, not coming from xVx...coming from a guy whose read an entire thread of people talking about a dislike of being judged...but all Ive seen is the judgement goin' out the other way.

[Paul Warren]

Originally Posted by 7 Strings of Hate

perhapse judge people by their skill and work ethic rather than what the do with their personal time, those guys have the drive. just because you do drugs doesnt mean you cant have a drive to sucseed. if that was the case aerosmith, elton john, eric clapton...ect, all of which had drug issues at one time or another would not be where they are today

Well, I understand some people may do things in their personal lives that might not affect their work. But I've fired people whose personal issues have affected their work and work ethic. And those personal issues were pot and alcohol. They were hired based on their skills and they were let go because of their personal issues affecting work. I don't care to try to find people who can "balance" drugs and normal life. I flat out tell musicians in interviews that if you are a drug user, then this isn't the place for you. As an employer, it is a HUGE waste of time, money, and effort to hire drug users. There are enough potential employer/employee problems without throwing drugs into the mix. I admire the drive to succeed with the players you mentioned, but given the choice, I prefer to work with people who are driven and who don't bring all the extra potential problems of substance abuse.

paul

[Korbain]

Originally Posted by Zepp88

It's better than Americas "drugs are evil and will ruin your life" campaign, might as well let people know the facts, the dangers, all of the good and bad, and if they choose-to-use (neato ) let them know what to do and what definetly NOT to do. If (some) people can figure out how to use alcohol safely, why not other drugs?

lol. Its so true though, its not bad to take stuff, if you look into it, and know how too look after yourself. Unless its hard shit, like heroin/coke, that really fucks your body, most drugs like pills (ecstacy, speed, chargy shit!), LSD (the only smacky stuff i'd ever touch, even then, only ever so rarely, good laugh though lol), etc. aren't alllllll that bad for you if you know what too expect from it, know how to react to the situation if it happens and more importantly, know exactly whats in it and make sure its clean n safe.

Its funny, one of the safest drugs in the world is heroin i think, in the pure, obviously by the time it hits the streets, its been cut down, had shit added so much its like one of the most dangerous! i'd put coke and pot up there too! (yes! POT! i seen very bad results from pot heads/people that like a joint or 3 every day).

lol anyways, i'll stop, i sound like i am condoning drugs here in a way, which i definatly do not. I've already said way too much lol. but your all my homeboys here

[lucasreis]

Originally Posted by Xaios

Sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll baby!

What difference does it make, really? I've never been drunk or high in my life, but I don't really care that much if they do it. Stevie Ray Vaughan was fucked on drugs in the early part of his career, and he was STILL a force to be reckoned with, and remains one of my idols. I watched his performance at Montreaux in 83 not long ago, and physically he looks like he's about to die, but he still sings, plays, and generally kicks ass like nobody's business. If it doesn't take away from the music, why does it matter?

Unless you're militant straightedge...

Totally agreed.

Lots of musicans that influenced me over the years are drug-addicts or experimented, and lots of them aren´t. I don´t really care. It´s like being disappointed about Rob Halford being gay and writing good songs or something.