What happened to "this" Queensryche???

YYZ2112 · 05-02-2008, 08:58 PM

Wow I miss the old days when these guys put out good stuff....

F1Filter · 05-02-2008, 09:20 PM

It ended when they released Hear In The Now Frontier? Dunno. But they just completely lost me with that release.

From 'Rage For Order' to 'Promised Land' though, they could do no wrong in my eyes. OK, with maybe the exception of the back cover on Rage For Order. What the hell was that all about?

technomancer · 05-02-2008, 10:29 PM

Fortunately they're still amazing live

Edroz · 05-03-2008, 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F1Filter

It ended when they released Hear In The Now Frontier? Dunno. But they just completely lost me with that release.

same here.

"The Warning" is a decent album, but that one and the self-titled really don't do a whole lot for me

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"Rage for Order" up to "Promised Land" (amazing and far too overlooked album) are the Queensryche i like.

distressed_romeo · 05-03-2008, 10:20 AM

Short answer, Chris Degarmo left.

I don't think there's been another band in musical history that've taken such a drastic nose-dive after losing just one member.

7 Strings of Hate · 05-03-2008, 10:24 AM

i'v never really listened to queensryche, and after watching that video i'm so glad

what the hell are you guys listening to

the music was ok, but i cant stand that woman-man singing that guy is doing

Chris · 05-03-2008, 10:39 AM

Degarmo left and took all the songwriting with him.

* Chris has a Queensryche tattoo

F1Filter · 05-03-2008, 11:36 AM

While I agree that Degarmo's departure did have a big impact on their songwriting. He's just as guilty for "Hear In the Now Frontier". Sorry, but that's just not a good album. And I'm sure that I wasn't the only one that got their hopes up when he came back on "Tribe". Which turned out to be such a cocktease. Especially after they were posting promo photos of the band with Chris.

If you believe what goes on some of the QR forums. They're all convinced that it's Geoff Tate and his wife's fault for the band turning out like this.

technomancer · 05-03-2008, 12:08 PM

Honestly the band was on their way downhill writing wise before Degarmo left. Hear in the Now Frontier was the start of the massive slide, and Tribe while decent was certainly nowhere near the "old days" even though Degarmo was back for the writing and recording. Also, having heard Degarmo's solo stuff, it sounds a lot like the later Queensryche stuff... I was actually really excited to get the 4 song cd he had out, and to be honest it was pretty awful. I listened to it once and haven't touched it since

What I find REALLY weird is when stuff is fantastic live, but the studio version is just really lacking. Like their cd of covers, Take Cover. I saw them live before the cd was released and the covers were fantastic, so I bought the cd. HUGE let down, the cd is nowhere even close to the live performance of those songs

TemjinStrife · 05-03-2008, 03:44 PM

Age, band drama, etc. Some bands don't age gracefully.

"Take Cover" was terrible. I was really dissapointed, and glad I wasn't the one who had bought it (heard it at a friend's).

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F1Filter Noise Generator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA & Queens, NY Posts: 454 Main Seven: Jackson CS Soloist 7 Rig: Bunch of VST plugins Thanked: 21 $F1Filter is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $F1Filter is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $F1Filter is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $F1Filter is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $F1Filter is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $F1Filter is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $F1Filter is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$	It ended when they released Hear In The Now Frontier? Dunno. But they just completely lost me with that release. From 'Rage For Order' to 'Promised Land' though, they could do no wrong in my eyes. OK, with maybe the exception of the back cover on Rage For Order. What the hell was that all about? "We are not going to do a free-form jazz exploration in front of a festival crowd!"

05-02-2008, 10:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
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05-03-2008, 10:39 AM	#7 (permalink)
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F1Filter Noise Generator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA & Queens, NY Posts: 454 Main Seven: Jackson CS Soloist 7 Rig: Bunch of VST plugins Thanked: 21 $F1Filter is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $F1Filter is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $F1Filter is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $F1Filter is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $F1Filter is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $F1Filter is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $F1Filter is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$	While I agree that Degarmo's departure did have a big impact on their songwriting. He's just as guilty for "Hear In the Now Frontier". Sorry, but that's just not a good album. And I'm sure that I wasn't the only one that got their hopes up when he came back on "Tribe". Which turned out to be such a cocktease. Especially after they were posting promo photos of the band with Chris. If you believe what goes on some of the QR forums. They're all convinced that it's Geoff Tate and his wife's fault for the band turning out like this.

05-03-2008, 12:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 8,798 Real Name: Steve Main Seven: KxK Sii-7 Rig: Fargen -> Orange Thanked: 49	Honestly the band was on their way downhill writing wise before Degarmo left. Hear in the Now Frontier was the start of the massive slide, and Tribe while decent was certainly nowhere near the "old days" even though Degarmo was back for the writing and recording. Also, having heard Degarmo's solo stuff, it sounds a lot like the later Queensryche stuff... I was actually really excited to get the 4 song cd he had out, and to be honest it was pretty awful. I listened to it once and haven't touched it since What I find REALLY weird is when stuff is fantastic live, but the studio version is just really lacking. Like their cd of covers, Take Cover. I saw them live before the cd was released and the covers were fantastic, so I bought the cd. HUGE let down, the cd is nowhere even close to the live performance of those songs

05-03-2008, 03:44 PM	#10 (permalink)
TemjinStrife Power Metal Cellist Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Vermont Posts: 751 Real Name: Josh Main Seven: Dean EVO 7 Special Rig: PODXT Thanked: 9	Age, band drama, etc. Some bands don't age gracefully. "Take Cover" was terrible. I was really dissapointed, and glad I wasn't the one who had bought it (heard it at a friend's).

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