[noodles]

Originally Posted by Naren

I think Randy is the perfect vocalist for Lamb of God and is the strongest link of the chain musically, followed by Mark and Willie (not talking about music proficiency, but talking about the sound they bring to the band).

The thing I like most about Randy is his lyrics. His lyrics for songs like "Now You've Got Something To Die For" are just amazing. The way he writes his vocal parts is also superb.

Maybe some of you think LoG would be better with a power metal vocalist or some annoying vocalist like Warrel Dane from Nevermore, but I can't think of a vocalist who fits Lamb of God better than Randy. If they got a different vocalist, it would be a completely different band. I don't think they would have the right to continue to call the band "Lamb of God." I probably would still listen to it, but I doubt I'd like it as much as Ashes of the Wake or As The Palaces Burn.

I really do love his lyrical content on Ashes, but come on, he's really not a very good vocalist. I'm not saying that they need some power metal guy, or someone as awesome and unique as Warrel Dane, but there are a million better growlers out there. Randy just sucks at it.

[JBroll]

Originally Posted by Lethe

Wow, you seem pretty worked up about this. Let me explain.



That's exactly what I said, it even says so in the very quote you posted. It is possible to alter timbre with multiband compression, but normally, you'd keep all the bands pretty even (hence: when done correctly).

Of course a normal singer "sounds" better when compressed, if by sound better you mean "signal is more even, doesn't change between inaudible and drowning everything else out". But I meant the actual singing performance itself: Being on pitch, conveying emotion, all that crap isn't affected by the use of a compressor. When you are screaming though, it is. I should have been more clear on that, sorry.

How is screaming different from something else? You haven't clarified that.

Originally Posted by Lethe

Compressors have a threshold value. Everything below it does not get altered. Above the threshold however, the signal gets compressed by whatever ratio you have set. So above the threshold, the signal-to-noise ratio DOES suffer.

I am not exactly sure how you came up with 0dB, but it implies that you think a compressor is an "all or nothing" effect. I could interpret that as some kind of "fundamental failure to understand how exactly a compressor works", but I'm sure you just meant something else and I wouldn't want to risk coming across as an arrogant know-it-all.

I know how a compressor works. Granted, I was exaggerating, but I'm not entirely certain how you're going from 'changes volume of a signal' to 'makes every barely audible little gurgle go full blast and turns the vocalist into Satan' like you seem to be saying.

Originally Posted by Lethe

Another example:

Imagine screaming...I don't know, RAAAAAAKE into the microphone, because you're really upset with gardening tools.

You'd set your threshold so that the R is below it and the A is above and gets compressed. The K get's compressed too, obviously, but the barely audible "-h" at the end does not. What happens? The R gets a lot louder relative to the A or the K.

Try screaming the R at volume, you'll see what I mean. Those are the kinds of noises that the compressor can amplify, and as a result the whole scream sounds alot more powerful and effortless.

I'm not sure what you're actually saying. Keep in mind that I spend my time building gadgets like compressors and explaining to pro audio guys how exactly they work, so you're not talking to an idiot... whatever you're saying is just not clear at all. However, I think you're mistaken about compressors making screaming effortless - I've heard more than a few big screamers in person and it sounds like it does on record, not 'Oh well it would sound better if I had a compressor to make this and that louder'... there is nothing a compressor can do that someone sitting at a fader regulating the volume by hand can't do, so how that's supposed to make the difference between a hack and a great screamer is beyond me.

Jeff

[7 Strings of Hate]

Lamb of god should ditch randy and get phil anselmo, if they are going to work with a premadonna they should atleast work with one that can really do metal vocals

[Holy Katana]

Originally Posted by 7 Strings of Hate

Lamb of god should ditch randy and get phil anselmo, if they are going to work with a premadonna they should atleast work with one that can really do metal vocals

They'd sound great with Phil. Different, yes, but great.

[Bound]

I think Randy does just a fine job of making additional noise to make the band sound that much better.

[newamerikangospel]

Hahaha, you kids

1) Randy is incredibly cool sober, funny but annoying drunk

2) Machine made him do some weird stuff on the "Sacrement" CD (Like run around the block a couple of times, then do a vocal track).

3) He doesn't pitch shift on killadelphia dvd. While some may not like his screaming, he is in control of the range he has

[Metal Ken]

Originally Posted by 7 Strings of Hate

Lamb of god should ditch randy and get phil anselmo, if they are going to work with a premadonna they should atleast work with one that can really do metal vocals

Trade the weakest link in LoG for the weakest link in pantera? Nah, there'd be much better choices.

[Metal Ken]

Originally Posted by Celiak

Is that what you guys are talking about?

Damn, i wonder what its like to get your ass laid out on home video?

[Bound]

:ROFL: "Mark Morton! Get ready for the fucking sucker punch!"

that fight was not metal. that fight was very much 3rd grade playground.

[noodles]

Originally Posted by Metal Ken

Trade the weakest link in LoG for the weakest link in pantera? Nah, there'd be much better choices.

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