[JBroll]

Originally Posted by Lethe

You're right, there is absolutely nothing wrong with compressing vocals, everybody's doing it.

But compression also brings out the quieter parts of the signal and makes them sound much louder, because usually you will compensate with more gain. When screaming, all the more quiet noises that you wouldn't hear normally, like a small gargle in the back of your throat, become noticable and add to the whole "scream" sound.

Erm...

I don't know if you're trying to say what I think you're trying to say. If however, you're trying to say that compressing a vocal line brings out the gargle in the back of the throat RELATIVE TO THE REST OF THE SOUND, you'd be wrong. A compressor is just a little Smurf in a box with a volume control - when the volume goes past a certain point, the Smurf adjusts the track gain to lessen the difference between the threshold and the track's volume. The Smurf does NOT boost arbitrary quiet parts of the signal.

If you mean to say that little 'gargles' interspersed here and there, when there is no other signal, are brought up, you'd be sort of right. But just think about the implications of 'compression brings up quiet little parts of the signal all the time' - the signal-to-noise ratio of EVERYTHING would be 0dB. Clearly, this is nonsense. If you start and end a line with a little gurgle, the compressor can bring the gurgles up, but if a gurgle just pops up out of nowhere in the middle of a line that has consistent volume, it isn't going anywhere.

Originally Posted by Lethe

For normal singing, compression doesn't alter your sound or timbre a lot when done correctly. No "normal" singer in the world will sound better because he is using a compressor.

Wrongo. An ideal compressor ONLY ALTERS VOLUME, not timbre. A 'normal singer' still benefits from a compressor because the volume is evened out and the singer sounds more consistent and in-control.

Originally Posted by Lethe

A heavily compressed scream however sounds a lot more vicious than an unprocessed one, and many people are unaware that it doesn't take a lot, vocally, to sound like that.

Here's a mic and a compressor. Show me.

It seems like you have a fundamental failure to understand how exactly a compressor works. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Jeff

[Metal Ken]

I liked it better when these guys did it:

[TheMissing]

Originally Posted by Metal Ken

I liked it better when these guys did it:

[D-EJ915]

I have to say I actually like randy better than that guy

[JBroll]

Randy, better than Chuck Billy?

You fail at metal.

Jeff

[Metal Ken]

Originally Posted by JBroll

Randy, better than Chuck Billy?

You fail at metal.

Jeff

this jeff trumps the other jeff.

[D-EJ915]

meh

[cow 7 sig]

Originally Posted by CaptainD00M

Does that not remind anyone of the time that CC Deville knocked out Brett Michaels?

does anyone have footage of that?
would love to see it

[kristallin]

Originally Posted by CaptainD00M

Does that not remind anyone of the time that CC Deville knocked out Brett Michaels?

YES! I also remember CC absolutely dominating Rock'n'Roll Jeopardy... but that's a different story

All said, I hope Will, Mark and Chris finally get the band they deserve, they're nice as hell, and one day that stone weighing them down will fall from their necks.

[cow 7 sig]

Originally Posted by kristallin

YES! I also remember CC absolutely dominating Rock'n'Roll Jeopardy... but that's a different story

All said, I hope Will, Mark and Chris finally get the band they deserve, they're nice as hell, and one day that stone weighing them down will fall from their necks.

what about john?