The Guy Who Ripped Off Bulb is at it again

stuh84 · 04-28-2008, 02:21 PM

Bringing word from another person (I'll let you guess who)

SoundClick artist: Elements (UK) - page with MP3 music downloads Monuments - New where will the ocean end..

Now listen to Fell on Sevens site. Any similarities? Yeah just a bit....

Oh and if you've never heard of Elements/Monuments, how is he on your friends list on Myspace?

NegaTiveXero · 04-28-2008, 02:50 PM

Holy crap, it's similar as hell too.

On Fell, the riff comes in about 40 seconds. It almost exactly the same as the beginning riff of the Elements' song.

Deschain · 04-28-2008, 02:53 PM

the first riff in "we filmed the nightmare" is Bulb's "Imaginary" aswell.......

....LAAAAAAAAME....

.. ..and thats before we get on to the "elements" riff. WTF!!!

surely doing that completely takes the satisfaction out of writing a song in the first place.......because uuuurm.....its not writing a song. odd.

cataclysm_child · 04-28-2008, 03:20 PM

I'm not saying he didn't rip it off, but sometimes I hear a riff in my head that fits the song I'm working on, so I figure how to play it on the fretboard, and later when I listen to what I recorded, I find out that the riff was exactly the same as a riff from some other band that I've listened to. Usually in a different speed and in another key, but still pretty much the same.

Just saying. Who knows.

What about Michael Jackson's - 'Give in to me' and Dream Theater's - 'Endless sacrifice'. The start sounds pretty similar to me :P It's just the first sec though.

Muse - 'Hysteria' and Dream Theater - 'Never enough'

Muse - 'Stockholm syndrome' 02:22 and Dream Theater - 'Panic attack' 04:24 (the singing)

Muse - 'Stockholm syndrome' 01:30 and Dream Theater - 'Never enough' 00:59 (the synth stuff)

I know, it's pretty different, but still, when I listened to that octavarium album I noticed so many similarities with Muse's absolution album. Like someone have said: "Hey guys, why don't you make something like this absolution album by Muse"

It feels like they have taken material from muse and changed it a little bit and made it their own. But they've changed it so much that it's hard to notice. Well, that's my thought. I guess most of you disagree. I just remember, I listened a lot to the absolution album, and then I got the octavarium, and I just noticed so many similarities... was pretty strange, because it was pretty different too you know. I guess that's mor of an "influenced by" than "ripoff" though. Nothing like the seven and elements example.

stuh84 · 04-28-2008, 03:26 PM

Cataclysm_child: I here you on the Octavarium/Muse comparisons, its one of the first things I heard when I was listening to that album. Still love Panic Attack and These Walls, but it can be a bit....annoying sometimes

NegaTiveXero · 04-28-2008, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cataclysm_child

I'm not saying he didn't rip it off, but sometimes I hear a riff in my head that fits the song I'm working on, so I figure how to play it on the fretboard, and later when I listen to what I recorded, I find out that the riff was exactly the same as a riff from some other band that I've listened to. Usually in a different speed and in another key, but still pretty much the same.

Just saying. Who knows.

What about Michael Jackson's - 'Give in to me' and Dream Theater's - 'Endless sacrifice'. The start sounds pretty similar to me :P It's just the first sec though.

Muse - 'Hysteria' and Dream Theater - 'Never enough'

Muse - 'Stockholm syndrome' 02:22 and Dream Theater - 'Panic attack' 04:24 (the singing)

Muse - 'Stockholm syndrome' 01:30 and Dream Theater - 'Never enough' 00:59 (the synth stuff)

I know, it's pretty different, but still, when I listened to that octavarium album I noticed so many similarities with Muse's absolution album. Like someone have said: "Hey guys, why don't you make something like this absolution album by Muse"

It feels like they have taken material from muse and changed it a little bit and made it their own. But they've changed it so much that it's hard to notice. Well, that's my thought. I guess most of you disagree. I just remember, I listened a lot to the absolution album, and then I got the octavarium, and I just noticed so many similarities... was pretty strange, because it was pretty different too you know. I guess that's mor of an "influenced by" than "ripoff" though. Nothing like the seven and elements example.

That's the thing about Dream Theater, they put their influences in their music. Seven just straight up steals riffs. With the vast amount of music DT has written you can see tons of influences, but no rip-offs.

Anthony · 04-28-2008, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cataclysm_child

I'm not saying he didn't rip it off, but sometimes I hear a riff in my head that fits the song I'm working on, so I figure how to play it on the fretboard, and later when I listen to what I recorded, I find out that the riff was exactly the same as a riff from some other band that I've listened to. Usually in a different speed and in another key, but still pretty much the same.

Just saying. Who knows.

What about Michael Jackson's - 'Give in to me' and Dream Theater's - 'Endless sacrifice'. The start sounds pretty similar to me :P It's just the first sec though.

Muse - 'Hysteria' and Dream Theater - 'Never enough'

Muse - 'Stockholm syndrome' 02:22 and Dream Theater - 'Panic attack' 04:24 (the singing)

Muse - 'Stockholm syndrome' 01:30 and Dream Theater - 'Never enough' 00:59 (the synth stuff)

I know, it's pretty different, but still, when I listened to that octavarium album I noticed so many similarities with Muse's absolution album. Like someone have said: "Hey guys, why don't you make something like this absolution album by Muse"

It feels like they have taken material from muse and changed it a little bit and made it their own. But they've changed it so much that it's hard to notice. Well, that's my thought. I guess most of you disagree. I just remember, I listened a lot to the absolution album, and then I got the octavarium, and I just noticed so many similarities... was pretty strange, because it was pretty different too you know. I guess that's mor of an "influenced by" than "ripoff" though. Nothing like the seven and elements example.

The thing about the Muse/DT comparisons is that DT just used the song as an influence musically, they didn't copy the same exact riff, claim its a different one because of the drum machine they used, and change the tempo.

Drew · 04-28-2008, 03:49 PM

...and also that DT took some flack, rightly so, for wearing that Muse influence a little TOO prominently.

Anthony · 04-28-2008, 03:51 PM

...prophets of war...

TheHandOfStone · 04-28-2008, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuh84

Bringing word from another person (I'll let you guess who)

SoundClick artist: Elements (UK) - page with MP3 music downloads Monuments - New where will the ocean end..

Now listen to Fell on Sevens site. Any similarities? Yeah just a bit....

Oh and if you've never heard of Elements/Monuments, how is he on your friends list on Myspace?

The one bit was a DIRECT COPY...strike three.

Ok, Seven used a low B instead of an A.

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04-28-2008, 02:21 PM	#51 (permalink)
stuh84 Dictatorship ftw Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 1,804 Real Name: Stuart Main Seven: LTD M207 and Jackson RR7R Rig: Invader 150 Thanked: 13	Bringing word from another person (I'll let you guess who) SoundClick artist: Elements (UK) - page with MP3 music downloads Monuments - New where will the ocean end.. Now listen to Fell on Sevens site. Any similarities? Yeah just a bit.... Oh and if you've never heard of Elements/Monuments, how is he on your friends list on Myspace? http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...x_215/MOAR.jpg

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NegaTiveXero Fuck Your Face! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cold Spring, Ky Posts: 2,546 Real Name: Nick Main Seven: '06 Ibanez RG7321 Rig: Marshall DSL401 Thanked: 17	Holy crap, it's similar as hell too. On Fell, the riff comes in about 40 seconds. It almost exactly the same as the beginning riff of the Elements' song. Ibanez RG7321 w/ Evo 7 (B) Marshall DSL401 My band Scarangella

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Deschain ss.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cheltenham, UK. Posts: 106 Real Name: Morgan Main Seven: C7 Hellraiser Rig: Podxt Thanked: 0	the first riff in "we filmed the nightmare" is Bulb's "Imaginary" aswell...........LAAAAAAAAME...... ..and thats before we get on to the "elements" riff. WTF!!! surely doing that completely takes the satisfaction out of writing a song in the first place.......because uuuurm.....its not writing a song. odd.

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04-28-2008, 03:20 PM	#54 (permalink)
cataclysm_child ss.org Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 152 Real Name: Michael Main Seven: Can't decide Main ERG: Illustrated 8 Rig: PODxt/Jmp-1/Invader Thanked: 5	I'm not saying he didn't rip it off, but sometimes I hear a riff in my head that fits the song I'm working on, so I figure how to play it on the fretboard, and later when I listen to what I recorded, I find out that the riff was exactly the same as a riff from some other band that I've listened to. Usually in a different speed and in another key, but still pretty much the same. Just saying. Who knows. What about Michael Jackson's - 'Give in to me' and Dream Theater's - 'Endless sacrifice'. The start sounds pretty similar to me :P It's just the first sec though. Muse - 'Hysteria' and Dream Theater - 'Never enough' Muse - 'Stockholm syndrome' 02:22 and Dream Theater - 'Panic attack' 04:24 (the singing) Muse - 'Stockholm syndrome' 01:30 and Dream Theater - 'Never enough' 00:59 (the synth stuff) I know, it's pretty different, but still, when I listened to that octavarium album I noticed so many similarities with Muse's absolution album. Like someone have said: "Hey guys, why don't you make something like this absolution album by Muse" It feels like they have taken material from muse and changed it a little bit and made it their own. But they've changed it so much that it's hard to notice. Well, that's my thought. I guess most of you disagree. I just remember, I listened a lot to the absolution album, and then I got the octavarium, and I just noticed so many similarities... was pretty strange, because it was pretty different too you know. I guess that's mor of an "influenced by" than "ripoff" though. Nothing like the seven and elements example.

04-28-2008, 03:26 PM	#55 (permalink)
stuh84 Dictatorship ftw Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 1,804 Real Name: Stuart Main Seven: LTD M207 and Jackson RR7R Rig: Invader 150 Thanked: 13	Cataclysm_child: I here you on the Octavarium/Muse comparisons, its one of the first things I heard when I was listening to that album. Still love Panic Attack and These Walls, but it can be a bit....annoying sometimes

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Anthony ss.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Nassau Long Island Posts: 1,780 Real Name: Anthony Main Seven: Purple Septor 727 Main ERG: I owned a 2228 for a week Thanked: 23	...prophets of war...

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