Dave Mustaine; the worst lead player ever? - Page 2

420n7strings · 04-14-2008, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris

It's pretty funny that this noob logs in here, calls mustaine a noob, then proceeds to .... up embedding videos several times in a row, all for a video that's been posted and discussed on here 20 times already.

Yeah well I'm sure playing to a one-person audience for the past few years makes him a better performer than mustaine

I'm new too but that kid is in desperate need for some of "the mirrors truth"

Cancer · 04-14-2008, 11:40 PM

Mustaine could prolly play if wanted, problem is, he just doesn't care. To me, that's worst, well except maybe talking about it.

budda · 04-14-2008, 11:48 PM

this thread isn't locked yet becaaaaaaause...

*insert reason here*

personally? couldn't care less. I dont listen to pantera, and i dont listen to megadeth. contine your complaining, im gonna go listen to some more Bulb tracks cuz i feel like a break from other stuff.

take care, everyone.

Xaios · 04-15-2008, 12:43 AM

I'm just wondering why on earth Dave evened bothered trying with John Petrucci, a man who absolutely blows him out of the freaking water, standing right there. Also, LaBrie didn't have the greatest night obviously, but he didn't do bad. Choruses could have been better, but he did well on the verses.

bostjan · 04-15-2008, 12:58 AM

Hmm, I didn't think it was *that* bad. I think we all know that Dave Mustaine has already proven that he can play. I've seen him live a couple of times. I think that that video was from early in Gigantour, no? IIRC, Dave had just started touring again after a long hiatus.

Chris · 04-15-2008, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaios

I'm just wondering why on earth Dave evened bothered trying with John Petrucci, a man who absolutely blows him out of the freaking water, standing right there. Also, LaBrie didn't have the greatest night obviously, but he didn't do bad. Choruses could have been better, but he did well on the verses.

If I was on stage next to Petrucci, I'd play.

Alien DNA · 04-15-2008, 02:05 AM

Has everyone forgotten that it was just a tribute to Dime?? Really, when someone covers another artists tunes, it never sounds right!!! I thought it was pretty cool to see them having fun on stage and i bet Dime would be watching from above slamming down some blacktooths and saying 'watch it go'.

DDDorian · 04-15-2008, 02:12 AM

For anyone who thinks Mustaine can't solo, I deem thee false, although he's hardly a favourite of mine. As for those who wonder why he bothered... he's Mustaine, the guy who taught Kerry King how to play guitar, hummed solos to Marty Friedman, wrote "Leper Messiah" and singlehandedly won Bill Clinton his first election, of course he can play that guitar solo he listened to fifteen minutes before going on stage

Par for the course, as far as I'm concerned.

InTheRavensName · 04-15-2008, 02:57 AM

meh...he's proved he can play, over and over again

/thread

(besides, all that was missing to me was a total lack of mids and occasional divebombs

)

Thrashmanzac · 04-15-2008, 04:57 AM

why bother rag on other musicians?

Drew · 04-15-2008, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris

If I was on stage next to Petrucci, I'd play.

I'd probably sound a lot worse than Mustaine did here because I'd be too busy pissing myself, but I'd do it and I'd ....ing brag about it afterwards.

"Did you see the video of me playing on stage with Dream Theater? Sure, I ....ed up the solo and you can see the wet spot on my jeans where I pissed myself halfway through, but I ....in' played with DREAM THEATER on stage! I rock!"

DelfinoPie · 04-15-2008, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris

If I was on stage next to Petrucci, I'd play.

Of course, everyone would sound bad in comparison to Petrucci. But still as Drew said you can brag your balls off about being on the same stage as him even if you did royally .... it up.

Shawn · 04-15-2008, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edroz

who cares if he can't play Dime's material perfectly... Dave isn't even close to being one of my favorite lead players, but he's come up with pretty good stuff through the years, and can play his own leads fine live.

i don't judge guitarists based on how well they can play a Dimbag solo

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I've always thought he was an alright lead player and I like his stuff on Rust In Peace, always have.

ArchAngel1024 · 04-15-2008, 11:24 AM

I love his leads personally, only 2 albums have ever disappointed me, Risk and Cryptic Writings. The System has Failed was full of excellent leads, as was United Abominations.

So he can't play Pantara (which personally, I don't like) it doesn't make his leads any worse.

Naren · 04-15-2008, 12:01 PM

I think he's a GREAT lead guitarist. "Worst lead player ever"?

So he ....s up a solo? Who hasn't? The dude plays tons of amazing solos on Rust In Peace and Peace Sells, not to forget a lot of other albums. I've seen live performances with him playing breathtaking solos.

The solo in that song WAS horrible (and so was the singing of every single singer up there except the guy from Symphony X who did an awesome job. Labrie sounded absolutely horrible on that song), but if I acted like he was the worst guitarist in the world for that, I'd be a hypocrit. I'd be forgetting the solo I played live in a show a few months ago where I accidentally started the solo on the 15th fret instead of the 12th fret and fixed it by just playing the correct frets on the next string when I changed strings - but it still sounded absolutely horrible. I could blame it on playing it live on a 27" baritone while I had always practiced it on a 25.5" scale guitar, but the truth is I was just having a really bad night. If you expect Dave to play great every single night, then you're crazy. He's been playing in bands for a living for almost 30 years. I personally think he's a great lead guitarist. And, considering how famous he is and how respected his band is for albums they've released, I'd hardly say that anyone could consider him the "worst lead player ever."

ZeroSignal · 04-15-2008, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blood Tempest

I just LOL'd soooo ....ing hard at that I'm in tears. I played the video right as that part was coming and said that quote to myself. OMFG!

+rep for laughs

No idea it was going to be that funny.

Thanks guys.

thedonutman · 04-15-2008, 03:29 PM

Off topic: That guy in the crowd at the beginning looks slightly like the drummer from Sum 41

On topic: Mustaine is becoming more and more of a f***up in my opinion, but he still writes/wrote great songs. And I think UA is a good album.

ZeroSignal · 04-15-2008, 04:18 PM

Haha! I only noticed Burton C. Bell just now!

wannabguitarist · 04-16-2008, 01:12 AM

meh, he did one helluva a lot better than I could of, and looked like a badass doing it

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drew

I'd probably sound a lot worse than Mustaine did here because I'd be too busy pissing myself, but I'd do it and I'd ....ing brag about it afterwards.

"Did you see the video of me playing on stage with Dream Theater? Sure, I ....ed up the solo and you can see the wet spot on my jeans where I pissed myself halfway through, but I ....in' played with DREAM THEATER on stage! I rock!"

I literally "loled" when I read that, +rep

Fionn · 04-19-2008, 04:14 AM

Quote:

It's pretty funny that this noob logs in here, calls mustaine a noob, then proceeds to .... up embedding videos several times in a row, all for a video that's been posted and discussed on here 20 times already.

Whoa! Calm down. Sorry that I don't sit on my arse for 15 hours a day running a website! But I'm ....ing sure that I'd have the respect and decency to learn how to play a solo before I went out to play a tribute to the guy who originally wrote it! ESPECIALLY DIME!

Quote:

Yeah well I'm sure playing to a one-person audience for the past few years makes him a better performer than mustaine I'm new too but that kid is in desperate need for some of "the mirrors truth"

Yep! I always play with myself! Feels good!

Yeah I am a noob when it comes to the internet but I've got better things to be doing so call me what you will, but I DON'T GIVE A ....! Thought you might find it funny! Oh and for the record Megadeth are shit! Always were and always will be! Best song they ever wrote isn't even on an album! Angry Again!

Thrashmanzac · 04-19-2008, 04:25 AM

^

Fionn · 04-19-2008, 04:40 AM

Yeah Yeah!

Uber Mega · 04-19-2008, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fionn

Yeah Yeah!

Hahaha, what a classic internet twonk. Where is the ban hammer?

this thread was a complete failure from the moment you started it Fionn...using a superlative (worst) in something as subjective as music makes you a girly man

Thrashmanzac · 04-19-2008, 06:12 AM

???

Mr. S · 04-19-2008, 06:17 AM

i'd say one good thing has come from this thread, its made me bust out 'Rust in Peace'

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04-14-2008, 11:48 PM	#28
budda Guiterrorizer Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London ONT Posts: 18,912 Thanked: 174 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	this thread isn't locked yet becaaaaaaause... insert reason here personally? couldn't care less. I dont listen to pantera, and i dont listen to megadeth. contine your complaining, im gonna go listen to some more Bulb tracks cuz i feel like a break from other stuff. take care, everyone. _______________________ J S Moore pickups: www.tonefordays.com Rock on!

04-15-2008, 12:58 AM	#30
bostjan Spastic Kitchen! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: St. Johnsbury, VT USA Posts: 7,561 Thanked: 15 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Hmm, I didn't think it was that bad. I think we all know that Dave Mustaine has already proven that he can play. I've seen him live a couple of times. I think that that video was from early in Gigantour, no? IIRC, Dave had just started touring again after a long hiatus. [URL="http://sites.google.com/site/bostjanzupancickhereb/"[/URL]

04-15-2008, 02:05 AM	#32
Alien DNA Fedex must die!!!!! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Northcote. Australia Posts: 271 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Has everyone forgotten that it was just a tribute to Dime?? Really, when someone covers another artists tunes, it never sounds right!!! I thought it was pretty cool to see them having fun on stage and i bet Dime would be watching from above slamming down some blacktooths and saying 'watch it go'. The bearded one

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04-15-2008, 12:43 AM	#29
Xaios Foolish Mortal Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Nimbus III Posts: 6,570 Thanked: 128 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm just wondering why on earth Dave evened bothered trying with John Petrucci, a man who absolutely blows him out of the freaking water, standing right there. Also, LaBrie didn't have the greatest night obviously, but he didn't do bad. Choruses could have been better, but he did well on the verses.

04-15-2008, 02:12 AM	#33
DDDorian Mantis Toboggan, M.D • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Middle of nowhere, Australia Posts: 4,296 Thanked: 225 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	For anyone who thinks Mustaine can't solo, I deem thee false, although he's hardly a favourite of mine. As for those who wonder why he bothered... he's Mustaine, the guy who taught Kerry King how to play guitar, hummed solos to Marty Friedman, wrote "Leper Messiah" and singlehandedly won Bill Clinton his first election, of course he can play that guitar solo he listened to fifteen minutes before going on stage Par for the course, as far as I'm concerned.

04-15-2008, 02:57 AM	#34
InTheRavensName Dog says yes ^.^ Yes Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Derby, UK Posts: 3,330 Thanked: 12 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	meh...he's proved he can play, over and over again /thread (besides, all that was missing to me was a total lack of mids and occasional divebombs ) Sabaton

04-15-2008, 04:57 AM	#35
Thrashmanzac plays in 69/42 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Melbourne, VIC Posts: 3,780 Thanked: 53 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	why bother rag on other musicians? ...Each guitarist has an evil fat 40 year old blueswankler trying to get out, If you give in to temptation you'll be sitting next to a fender playing john lee hooker while trying to keep your combover in place. -Desecrated being black and enjoying watermelon, i think this thread needs more watermelon. budda

04-15-2008, 11:24 AM	#39
ArchAngel1024 Prog Metalish Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Upstate, NY Posts: 140 Thanked: 7 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I love his leads personally, only 2 albums have ever disappointed me, Risk and Cryptic Writings. The System has Failed was full of excellent leads, as was United Abominations. So he can't play Pantara (which personally, I don't like) it doesn't make his leads any worse. ------------------- Current Axe: Epiphone Explorer,custom pickups (Unknown brand), a coil tap, and a killswitch Current 7: Ibanez RGX that's in bad shape right now (no strings, broken killswitch, neck needs work). Current Acoustic: Fender Stratacoustic (I love that guitar) Latest Guitar: Frankenfretless hand assembled custom

04-15-2008, 12:01 PM	#40
Naren OldschoolGhettostyle Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Tokyo Posts: 12,889 Thanked: 57 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think he's a GREAT lead guitarist. "Worst lead player ever"? So he ....s up a solo? Who hasn't? The dude plays tons of amazing solos on Rust In Peace and Peace Sells, not to forget a lot of other albums. I've seen live performances with him playing breathtaking solos. The solo in that song WAS horrible (and so was the singing of every single singer up there except the guy from Symphony X who did an awesome job. Labrie sounded absolutely horrible on that song), but if I acted like he was the worst guitarist in the world for that, I'd be a hypocrit. I'd be forgetting the solo I played live in a show a few months ago where I accidentally started the solo on the 15th fret instead of the 12th fret and fixed it by just playing the correct frets on the next string when I changed strings - but it still sounded absolutely horrible. I could blame it on playing it live on a 27" baritone while I had always practiced it on a 25.5" scale guitar, but the truth is I was just having a really bad night. If you expect Dave to play great every single night, then you're crazy. He's been playing in bands for a living for almost 30 years. I personally think he's a great lead guitarist. And, considering how famous he is and how respected his band is for albums they've released, I'd hardly say that anyone could consider him the "worst lead player ever."

04-15-2008, 03:29 PM	#42
thedonutman SS.org Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,285 Thanked: 24 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Off topic: That guy in the crowd at the beginning looks slightly like the drummer from Sum 41 On topic: Mustaine is becoming more and more of a f***up in my opinion, but he still writes/wrote great songs. And I think UA is a good album.

04-15-2008, 04:18 PM	#43
ZeroSignal Appreciates Kwolity Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 7,099 Thanked: 71 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Haha! I only noticed Burton C. Bell just now! "I'm back, babeh!" ಠ_ಠ

04-19-2008, 04:25 AM	#46
Thrashmanzac plays in 69/42 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Melbourne, VIC Posts: 3,780 Thanked: 53 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^ ...Each guitarist has an evil fat 40 year old blueswankler trying to get out, If you give in to temptation you'll be sitting next to a fender playing john lee hooker while trying to keep your combover in place. -Desecrated being black and enjoying watermelon, i think this thread needs more watermelon. budda

04-19-2008, 04:40 AM	#47
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04-19-2008, 06:12 AM	#49
Thrashmanzac plays in 69/42 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Melbourne, VIC Posts: 3,780 Thanked: 53 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	??? ...Each guitarist has an evil fat 40 year old blueswankler trying to get out, If you give in to temptation you'll be sitting next to a fender playing john lee hooker while trying to keep your combover in place. -Desecrated being black and enjoying watermelon, i think this thread needs more watermelon. budda

04-19-2008, 06:17 AM	#50
Mr. S tacos? Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 2,564 Thanked: 29 Feedback Score: 7 reviews	i'd say one good thing has come from this thread, its made me bust out 'Rust in Peace' Knights that say

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