To all the guys with FR trem's..

budda · 03-26-2008, 09:20 PM

Do you use any techniques other then dives?

how long did it take you to learn trem tricks?

I was listening to "Prosperity" by The Absence (instrumental ftw) and wondering how one goes about learning trem techniques.

I like the sounds you can make with an FR, but they still intimidate me. I'm a TOM/stoptail guy for life, but i wouldnt mind 1 FR'd guirat.

discuss!

Vince · 03-26-2008, 09:25 PM

Watch mid-90s era Petrucci. His technique of using the whammy bar to vibrato notes, chords & octaves is very useful.

I love putting wide vibrato on octaves with the bar. That, and wild flutters. Flutters are when you hit a note then smack the whammy bar hard. It vibrates & flutters around and the note goes apeshit. It sounds great!

ohio_eric · 03-26-2008, 09:27 PM

I hardly ever divebomb per se. I use the Floyd on my Loomis for all sorts of stuff like subtle little vibrato effects. Tom Morello on an Audioslave song, whose title I cannot remember, uses it to dive between pitches which is pretty fun. A good trem really opens up a lot of sonic possibilities. Go nuts and experiment.

eleven59 · 03-26-2008, 09:29 PM

Yeah, I don't have a trem, obviously, but if I did, it'd be 70% subtle vibrato/bending, 20% flutters, and 10% divebombs/dramatic stuff.

budda · 03-26-2008, 09:30 PM

*gives new consideration to hunting down a used DC727 with FR at the end of the summer*

CoachZ · 03-26-2008, 09:32 PM

One sweet uses of the FR I've seen is the Under a Glass Moon solo. I don't use the trem on my S470 anymore as the arm holding mechanism is busted and it's amazingly difficult to get the parts.

eaeolian · 03-26-2008, 11:10 PM

Check out Kristian from Therion if you want a tutorial in how to use a trem as an integral part of your style. He's the most impressive I've seen at being expressive with a Floyd.

kmanick · 03-26-2008, 11:15 PM

All of my guitars have floyds on them.
I mainly just use them for subtle vibrato or prebends when coming into a note.
(1/2 a step up or down depending on what I'm doing).
Watch Vai and Satch they use them in some "interesting" ways.

Shooter · 03-27-2008, 02:03 AM

^ One of my favorite things Vai does with the bar is doing little gracenotes by putting the bar under his hand and striking the string and the bar at the same time. Check it out at the end of his song "Building the Church".

Metal Ken · 03-27-2008, 02:04 AM

Listen to King Diamond's Abigail disc. \m/

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03-26-2008, 09:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
budda Guiterrorizer Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Deep River ONT (summer), London ONT (school) Posts: 7,465 Real Name: Justin Main Seven: Carvin DC727 OFR Rig: JSX->XXX w/ WGS CL80 Thanked: 49	To all the guys with FR trem's.. Do you use any techniques other then dives? how long did it take you to learn trem tricks? I was listening to "Prosperity" by The Absence (instrumental ftw) and wondering how one goes about learning trem techniques. I like the sounds you can make with an FR, but they still intimidate me. I'm a TOM/stoptail guy for life, but i wouldnt mind 1 FR'd guirat. discuss! 3 cheers for free gear! "Do you like burned toast with your JAM? cuz we're on FIRE!"

03-26-2008, 09:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
Vince Vince is X!!! • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 7,625 Real Name: Vince Main Seven: Ibanez Rig: Rocktron / Mesa Thanked: 108	Watch mid-90s era Petrucci. His technique of using the whammy bar to vibrato notes, chords & octaves is very useful. I love putting wide vibrato on octaves with the bar. That, and wild flutters. Flutters are when you hit a note then smack the whammy bar hard. It vibrates & flutters around and the note goes apeshit. It sounds great! THE ASYLUM VINCELUPONE.COM

03-26-2008, 09:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
ohio_eric He loves you Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,093 Main Seven: Schecter Jeff Loomis Sig Rig: Boss GT-8 Thanked: 167	I hardly ever divebomb per se. I use the Floyd on my Loomis for all sorts of stuff like subtle little vibrato effects. Tom Morello on an Audioslave song, whose title I cannot remember, uses it to dive between pitches which is pretty fun. A good trem really opens up a lot of sonic possibilities. Go nuts and experiment. The only proof he needed for the existance of God was music. Kurt Vonnegut Jr. Without music, life would be a mistake. Friedrich Nietzsche

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03-26-2008, 09:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
budda Guiterrorizer Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Deep River ONT (summer), London ONT (school) Posts: 7,465 Real Name: Justin Main Seven: Carvin DC727 OFR Rig: JSX->XXX w/ WGS CL80 Thanked: 49	gives new consideration to hunting down a used DC727 with FR at the end of the summer

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CoachZ Needs guitar skills Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Great White North Posts: 205 Main Seven: None yet Rig: Cube Thanked: 0	One sweet uses of the FR I've seen is the Under a Glass Moon solo. I don't use the trem on my S470 anymore as the arm holding mechanism is busted and it's amazingly difficult to get the parts.

03-26-2008, 11:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
eaeolian The Church of SEVEN • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Woodbridge, VA Posts: 10,637 Real Name: Mike Main Seven: Jackson CS Soloist 7 Rig: Mesa Triple Recto Thanked: 52	Check out Kristian from Therion if you want a tutorial in how to use a trem as an integral part of your style. He's the most impressive I've seen at being expressive with a Floyd. Division - American metal that doesn't suck. Much. Even on MySpace, and Soundclick, too.

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kmanick Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: BOSTON Posts: 2,895 Real Name: Nick Main Seven: Carvin DC727C/Ibby 7620RB Rig: JSX/Mesa Rectoverb Thanked: 38 $kmanick is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $kmanick is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $kmanick is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $kmanick is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $kmanick is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $kmanick is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $kmanick is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$	All of my guitars have floyds on them. I mainly just use them for subtle vibrato or prebends when coming into a note. (1/2 a step up or down depending on what I'm doing). Watch Vai and Satch they use them in some "interesting" ways. Can I be the devil on your shoulder?

03-27-2008, 02:03 AM	#9 (permalink)
Shooter Clusterf*ck Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Vallejo,Ca Posts: 163 Real Name: Jeremy Main Seven: Ibanez K-7 Rig: Mesa Triple Recto Thanked: 2	^ One of my favorite things Vai does with the bar is doing little gracenotes by putting the bar under his hand and striking the string and the bar at the same time. Check it out at the end of his song "Building the Church". If you're out there and you're cute, maybe you're beautiful, I just wanna tell you something... there's more of us ugly mther fckers then you are. -Frank Zappa Myspace.com/shooternow

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