[s7eve]

[siggy14]

OK this is my last post on the subject, because it is just tiring.

Here is what a majority of the people know about Ashley Simpson.
1. She is Jessica's sister

2. She sings Pop Punk music

3. She got caught once lip syncing on natinoal TV.

I am sure there might be a few little other tid bits people know about her, but those are the three major things that people judge her on.

Here is reality about Ashley Simpson.
1. Yes she is Jessica Simpson's little sister, did that help, probaly, but Ashley was acting long before she started singing, long before Jessica really blew up because of her TV show. Yes having a famous realitive helps, but do you think any less of Jason Bonham or Dwezil Zappa? I dont really care for either of there music, but I would never put it down.

And please dont give me that crap how can you compare Ashley to Jason or Dwezil, all three write there own music, just may not be your type music. And yes Ashley co-wrote her first album, dont ask me how much she wrote of her second or third as I am not really a big fan, like maybe a song here or there by her.

2. Yes she does pop punk/rock and she does it well, just because it is not your type of music, does not mean it is not good. I am sorry people are not that stupid, she went platnum X3 on first record, that is a pretty good accomplisment. And once again like i said, she co-wrote that album.

3. The ever dreaded lip syncing, I have said it in this thread and I will say it again. Almost every major act that HAS DONE TV APPEARENCE has had to lip sync at least once in there life, Ashley just got caught. But dont assume just because she got caught once that she always does it in real life. She is not a pop star, meaning she does not dance around alot on stage, she is a singer of a band.

Now the Irony of this whole argument, this whole thread is on how people say stupid things about music or artists they do not know much about, and yet some of you are saying stupid things about pop/pop punk music that you do not know much about. You assume this, you assume that with out really knowing the facts and that is what is disturbing.

Makes me wonder if you are really any better then the people that say metal is for losers, for idiots, metal is not musical, doesnt take talent to do metal etc.... I am starting to wonder who the hypocrytes really are here?

Originally Posted by The Dark Wolf

"Blindly?" She got fucking caught red-handed on national TV, live, and didn't know what the fuck to do. It's called a logical deduction from existing evidence, but even if I were to agree it's a stretch (which I won't), it's no way in hell "blind." Doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure out these pop idiots do that shit all the time.

[The Dark Wolf]

Calling people hypocrites for not supporting the Big Macs of the musical world is fucking ridiculous. You're really going over the line.

You argument that all music is equally valid is the most ludicrous crock of shit I've ever read. Might as well compare a custom Bernie Rico Jr. with a Korean Squier and say they're the same.

We have the concept of "quality" for a reason.

[Mastodon]

Originally Posted by s7eve

It's not band/artist related and it's not a stupid thing someone said but it is music related and it was hella funny at the time.

In the 90's we lived on a large property and there was this old bloke who lived in a shack on the other side, he had been there longer than anyone can remember and we were asked to let him continue living there. He was a fighter pilot in WW2 so he had been around but the most recent piece of technology he owned was a GAS powered fridge. He came over our place for a yarn one day when I was listening to my disc man and he kept saying "what was that?", I had no idea what he was going on about but after a while I got curious and asked what he was referring to, he said "where is that music coming from?" so I put the headphones on him and it scared the shit out of him, he looked very distressed as he asked me how did they get them/that into that?" I just

Aw, that's so sad yet hillarious and awesome.

Edit: PS: You're all a bunch of NurfHerders!

[eleven59]

Originally Posted by siggy14

3. The ever dreaded lip syncing, I have said it in this thread and I will say it again. Almost every major act that HAS DONE TV APPEARENCE has had to lip sync at least once in there life, Ashley just got caught. But dont assume just because she got caught once that she always does it in real life. She is not a pop star, meaning she does not dance around alot on stage, she is a singer of a band.

Yeah, that may be true, but not on SNL. Almost all of the performers on that show sing live (other than other pop singers maybe), it's not required to lip sync on SNL. Also, I've heard her sing live on the Much Music Video Awards, it was a train wreck.


(unfortunately this is the only vid I could find and the sound's distorted, but trust me she sounded that out of tune on the broadcast, it has nothing to do with the quality of the rip)

And on shows where people are forced to lip sync the track, real artists have a much better way of dealing with it:



(Nirvana did something similar, but I couldn't find a video of it)

[Chris]

Originally Posted by siggy14

OK this is my last post on the subject, because it is just tiring.

Here is what a majority of the people know about Ashley Simpson.
1. She is Jessica's sister

2. She sings Pop Punk music

3. She got caught once lip syncing on natinoal TV.

I am sure there might be a few little other tid bits people know about her, but those are the three major things that people judge her on.

Here is reality about Ashley Simpson.
1. Yes she is Jessica Simpson's little sister, did that help, probaly, but Ashley was acting long before she started singing, long before Jessica really blew up because of her TV show. Yes having a famous realitive helps, but do you think any less of Jason Bonham or Dwezil Zappa? I dont really care for either of there music, but I would never put it down.

And please dont give me that crap how can you compare Ashley to Jason or Dwezil, all three write there own music, just may not be your type music. And yes Ashley co-wrote her first album, dont ask me how much she wrote of her second or third as I am not really a big fan, like maybe a song here or there by her.

2. Yes she does pop punk/rock and she does it well, just because it is not your type of music, does not mean it is not good. I am sorry people are not that stupid, she went platnum X3 on first record, that is a pretty good accomplisment. And once again like i said, she co-wrote that album.

3. The ever dreaded lip syncing, I have said it in this thread and I will say it again. Almost every major act that HAS DONE TV APPEARENCE has had to lip sync at least once in there life, Ashley just got caught. But dont assume just because she got caught once that she always does it in real life. She is not a pop star, meaning she does not dance around alot on stage, she is a singer of a band.

Now the Irony of this whole argument, this whole thread is on how people say stupid things about music or artists they do not know much about, and yet some of you are saying stupid things about pop/pop punk music that you do not know much about. You assume this, you assume that with out really knowing the facts and that is what is disturbing.

Makes me wonder if you are really any better then the people that say metal is for losers, for idiots, metal is not musical, doesnt take talent to do metal etc.... I am starting to wonder who the hypocrytes really are here?

You need to calm the fuck down and stop addressing my members as though your difference in opinion somehow makes you better than everyone else, k? If you came here to argue and preen like a pompous ass, harmony central is -> that way and there are plenty of tools over there who will happily argue this topic with you until your face turns blue.

If you want to remain a member on my site, respect the fact that people have different opinions on things than you do, and that a difference in opinion doesn't make you right and them wrong.

You assume this, you assume that with out really knowing the facts and that is what is disturbing.

Just like you assuming that you're the only one here that knows what they're talking about. The only problem I see in this thread is that you're blurring the line between "musician" and "entertainer". They are not the same thing.

[DDDorian]

You do realise that "co-writing" a song in corporate pop terms amounts to contributing lyrics, most of which are ghost-edited into mechanical dullness (in many cases, a substantial improvement)? Plus, when she was busted lip-syncing her band was playing live, she was the only one miming. Who cares? The only reason songwriters worked with her is because her name would guarantee sales, not because they love those two notes she can hit when she hollers in the direction of a microphone; by the same token, she only pursued a music career because reality TV will only take you so far. I agree with you about the punk thing, though, not since Johnny Rotten has someone so utterly tonedeaf shifted so many units

[Sebastian]

You talking about this ?

[siggy14]

See that just shows who you really are, fast to judge without knowing facts. I see you are Mr know it all when it comes to music, yet ashley is making money getting her music out, what are you doing, sitting here typing and complaining about her.

Once again, you are being a hypocryte, you dont like her music so you call it the big mac. Please get over yourself.

You know how you can tell when someone is truly imature and what they say is not valid, when they have to curse alot and make stupid comparisons that really make no sense in order to try to get there point across.

Originally Posted by The Dark Wolf

Calling people hypocrites for not supporting the Big Macs of the musical world is fucking ridiculous. You're really going over the line.

You argument that all music is equally valid is the most ludicrous crock of shit I've ever read. Might as well compare a custom Bernie Rico Jr. with a Korean Squier and say they're the same.

We have the concept of "quality" for a reason.

[Chris]

Originally Posted by DDDorian

You do realise that "co-writing" a song in corporate pop terms amounts to contributing lyrics, most of which are ghost-edited into mechanical dullness (in many cases, a substantial improvement)? Plus, when she was busted lip-syncing her band was playing live, she was the only one miming. Who cares? The only reason songwriters worked with her is because her name would guarantee sales, not because they love those two notes she can hit when she hollers in the direction of a microphone; by the same token, she only pursued a music career because reality TV will only take you so far. I agree with you about the punk thing, though, not since Johnny Rotten has someone so utterly tonedeaf shifted so many units

Respectable vocalists do not need a petrucci-sized rack of vocal processors and pitch correctors, a multi million dollar studio and an army of producers to make their voice sound decent.