"Guttural" vocals and "Pig Squeeling" - Page 2

DDDorian · 01-15-2008, 01:28 AM

I agree with Abhorred and Crucified about the whole "deathcore" thing. To my ears it's just a bunch of clueless emo kids who don't understand the appeal of death metal or grindcore at all but want to seem "brutal" so they take all the stereotypical elements of these genres, distill them to their stupidest form and arrange them in ways only dumb emo kids could. At least the jokey goregrind bands and the like have some reverence for the music, this "deathcore" garbage makes a mockery of pretty much everything ever. I think the one redeeming feature of Myspace is that when someone says "check out this brutal grind band" I can click their myspace link and if I see "Death Metal/Grindcore/Hardcore" and some stupid ironic name like "Arsonists Get All The Girls" I can close the window immediately and make a mental note to never, ever listen to them under any circumstances

As for not being able to understand the lyrics, I couldn't care less. Honestly, do you think a guy who get his jollies from gurgling like a frog in a toilet bowl is gonna have anything insightful to say? Personally, I find lyrics are only necessary with this style of vocal to help you enunciate certain patterns and such. Hell, there are almost no lyrics at all on Obituary's Slowly We Rot and John Tardy wipes the floor with most of the "grindcore" bands of today.

Daggorath · 01-15-2008, 08:11 AM

Sounds like a frog/toad croaking to me. It's one of those things I REALLY don't get. When did vocals become this? If there was an instrument that made these kinda noises, would it be used? Yeah it might be a talent but ultimately does it have any use in music? There are many noises people can make with their bodies that might be a talent but would you use them in music? I really don't understand it at all.

Hmm.

I don't mean to offend anyone.

Uber Mega · 01-15-2008, 08:41 AM

Music is the most openly interpreted medium on the planet, there is neither good nor bad music, no form of music is more legitimate than any other, only what is perceived by the individual...if you dig something listen to it, if not then don't. I learnt a long time ago to get off the musical podium i once thought i stood on.

If to one man they just sound like "pigs squealing', then to another they are perfection and nothing would fit the music better. And so the divide has been, with music in general, for as long as it has been around.

That's nothing to do with anything said in this thread, I just don't get involved anymore, i just listen to what i want to listen to and let others do the same...I only say it because i'm browsing youtube at the moment and all i see is "X band sucks", "Y guitarist is better than Z guitarist" and it really is pathetic, there is no such thing as the 'de facto standard' of a 'good musical taste', some people just don't get that. In fact i'd put myself out there and say that anyone who claims one musical style/guitarist/band or whatever is better than any other is a fool.

Oh, and i really like what Gorod do with a wide range of vocal styles including the ones the OP mentioned, they don't use them often though.

TonyFlyingSquirrel · 01-15-2008, 08:55 AM

Sounds like belching through a sub-woofer to me.

Then again, I'm not a big fan of those kinds of vocals.

Sorry, no offense intended, just not for me.

Crucified · 01-15-2008, 09:13 AM

Great justice. Slowely we rot is one of the best "true" death metal albums ever.

To be clear, i really like this style of vocals, just not the music under it. Check out MySpace.com - CIRCLE of DEAD CHILDREN - Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania - Grindcore / Death Metal / Metal - www.myspace.com/circleofdeadchildren

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDDorian

Hell, there are almost no lyrics at all on Obituary's Slowly We Rot and John Tardy wipes the floor with most of the "grindcore" bands of today.

skinhead · 01-15-2008, 09:33 AM

I think that music doesn't have limits, so you can create or play what you want.

Another thing, are songs with breakdowns that they erase your face. But yeah, bands are using them a lot!

I like hardcore, and what deathcore does, I love it. They put together the hardcore rythms and breakdowns with the brutality and the sick growls.

Just my 2 cents.

kung_fu · 01-15-2008, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by newamerikangospel

As commentary, I think the pigsqueels can lend an atmosphere to the music, but I hate it when bands ONLY do it. They didn't write the lyrics as (bree bree bree bree), so I dont personal like it when that is all I hear.

This guy gets it

SHREDTOKILL · 01-15-2008, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Stitch

Hernan Herdida pwns your soul.

never ending war has some good inhales too.

skinhead · 01-15-2008, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newamerikangospel

As commentary, I think the pigsqueels can lend an atmosphere to the music, but I hate it when bands ONLY do it. They didn't write the lyrics as (bree bree bree bree), so I dont personal like it when that is all I hear.

In that case, the vox is another instrument. Just like in an old band, that I cannot remember the name.

halsinden · 01-15-2008, 10:52 AM

kind of makes me think about seeing if there's somewhere for that vocal style on the new interlock album. hmm...

there are already some pretty low vocals on there both from christina & myself, but they're mostly full-on low death rather than squeals.

H

Blexican · 01-15-2008, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crucified

Great justice. Slowely we rot is one of the best "true" death metal albums ever.

To be clear, i really like this style of vocals, just not the music under it. Check out MySpace.com - CIRCLE of DEAD CHILDREN - Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania - Grindcore / Death Metal / Metal - www.myspace.com/circleofdeadchildren

Oh .... yes, I met a couple of members a long time ago. Love this band.

Micflory · 03-20-2011, 03:21 AM

I'm sorry but there are way better bands then these Deathcore douches

Here are some sick Gutteral vocals that aren't done by some guy wearing their sisters pants or a Tall Tee

http://www.youtube.com/v/9ow1-QDOxUY?fs=1&hl=en_US

http://www.youtube.com/v/QTMf_Y1BdSY?fs=1&hl=en_US

http://www.youtube.com/v/_YauCNkGaC8?fs=1&hl=en_US

http://www.youtube.com/v/lpkjLHtylu0?fs=1&hl=en_US

DLG · 03-20-2011, 05:20 AM

I like it when it's used sparingly as well.

This band combines pig squeals perfectly imo.

brutus627 · 03-20-2011, 06:11 AM

For these type of vocals I like bands that don't seem to write the songs around the breakdowns as others have stated. It seems like that music tends to get boring extremely fast due to the lack of "music" going on there...if I were to lend my opinion on some of the best guts then it would be bands like gutteral secrete, wormed,mutilated,disgorge,cinerary,prophecy just to name a few

troyguitar · 03-20-2011, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDDorian

Honestly, do you think a guy who get his jollies from gurgling like a frog in a toilet bowl is gonna have anything insightful to say?

Acatalepsy · 03-20-2011, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micflory

I'm sorry but there are way better bands then these Deathcore douches

Here are some sick Gutteral vocals that aren't done by some guy wearing their sisters pants or a Tall Tee

http://www.youtube.com/v/9ow1-QDOxUY?fs=1&hl=en_US

http://www.youtube.com/v/QTMf_Y1BdSY?fs=1&hl=en_US

http://www.youtube.com/v/_YauCNkGaC8?fs=1&hl=en_US

http://www.youtube.com/v/lpkjLHtylu0?fs=1&hl=en_US

Finally someone posts something that isn't trendy deathcore. repped.

DS is where it's at.

Kali Yuga · 03-20-2011, 09:08 AM

The only bad thing about getting into brutal death metal and vocals, is that all the music you used to think was heavy will begin to sound like Justin Timberlake in comparison. I can't get into most of the more mainstream death metal and 'djent' nonsense that gets talked about on this website for of this reason.

If you don't like gutturals, it's 'cause you're a pansy.

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01-15-2008, 08:11 AM	#27
Daggorath -.- Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 1,223 Thanked: 5 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sounds like a frog/toad croaking to me. It's one of those things I REALLY don't get. When did vocals become this? If there was an instrument that made these kinda noises, would it be used? Yeah it might be a talent but ultimately does it have any use in music? There are many noises people can make with their bodies that might be a talent but would you use them in music? I really don't understand it at all. Hmm. I don't mean to offend anyone. "Imagine your eyes dancing on the notes you wanna play and forget about whether your hands can do it or not" - Allan Holdsworth For Sale: Laney VH100R - £400 [UK] PM for details.

01-15-2008, 08:55 AM	#29
TonyFlyingSquirrel Cherokee Warrior Join Date: May 2006 Location: Federal Way, Washington Posts: 1,861 Thanked: 61 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Sounds like belching through a sub-woofer to me. Then again, I'm not a big fan of those kinds of vocals. Sorry, no offense intended, just not for me. WWW.MYSPACE.COM/TONYFLYINGSQUIRRELMUSIC http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page...?bandID=268162 Seven Strings to rule them all, Seven Strings to find them, Seven Strings to bring them all and in the music bind them.

01-15-2008, 09:33 AM	#31
skinhead Manager / RHLC © Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Argentina Posts: 5,675 Thanked: 55 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I think that music doesn't have limits, so you can create or play what you want. Another thing, are songs with breakdowns that they erase your face. But yeah, bands are using them a lot! I like hardcore, and what deathcore does, I love it. They put together the hardcore rythms and breakdowns with the brutality and the sick growls. Just my 2 cents. Back to da 'hood (sevenstring.org)

01-15-2008, 10:52 AM	#35
halsinden it's a british thing Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: camden taaahn, london Posts: 1,552 Thanked: 135 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	kind of makes me think about seeing if there's somewhere for that vocal style on the new interlock album. hmm... there are already some pretty low vocals on there both from christina & myself, but they're mostly full-on low death rather than squeals. H http://www.talanas.org death metal's gentlemen

01-15-2008, 01:28 AM	#26
DDDorian Mantis Toboggan, M.D • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Middle of nowhere, Australia Posts: 4,295 Thanked: 225 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I agree with Abhorred and Crucified about the whole "deathcore" thing. To my ears it's just a bunch of clueless emo kids who don't understand the appeal of death metal or grindcore at all but want to seem "brutal" so they take all the stereotypical elements of these genres, distill them to their stupidest form and arrange them in ways only dumb emo kids could. At least the jokey goregrind bands and the like have some reverence for the music, this "deathcore" garbage makes a mockery of pretty much everything ever. I think the one redeeming feature of Myspace is that when someone says "check out this brutal grind band" I can click their myspace link and if I see "Death Metal/Grindcore/Hardcore" and some stupid ironic name like "Arsonists Get All The Girls" I can close the window immediately and make a mental note to never, ever listen to them under any circumstances As for not being able to understand the lyrics, I couldn't care less. Honestly, do you think a guy who get his jollies from gurgling like a frog in a toilet bowl is gonna have anything insightful to say? Personally, I find lyrics are only necessary with this style of vocal to help you enunciate certain patterns and such. Hell, there are almost no lyrics at all on Obituary's Slowly We Rot and John Tardy wipes the floor with most of the "grindcore" bands of today.

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01-15-2008, 08:41 AM	#28
Uber Mega Try my fist! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Leeds, UK Posts: 1,470 Thanked: 36 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Music is the most openly interpreted medium on the planet, there is neither good nor bad music, no form of music is more legitimate than any other, only what is perceived by the individual...if you dig something listen to it, if not then don't. I learnt a long time ago to get off the musical podium i once thought i stood on. If to one man they just sound like "pigs squealing', then to another they are perfection and nothing would fit the music better. And so the divide has been, with music in general, for as long as it has been around. That's nothing to do with anything said in this thread, I just don't get involved anymore, i just listen to what i want to listen to and let others do the same...I only say it because i'm browsing youtube at the moment and all i see is "X band sucks", "Y guitarist is better than Z guitarist" and it really is pathetic, there is no such thing as the 'de facto standard' of a 'good musical taste', some people just don't get that. In fact i'd put myself out there and say that anyone who claims one musical style/guitarist/band or whatever is better than any other is a fool. Oh, and i really like what Gorod do with a wide range of vocal styles including the ones the OP mentioned, they don't use them often though.

03-20-2011, 03:21 AM	#37
Micflory ss.org Regular Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: San Francisco Bay Area, CA Posts: 1 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm sorry but there are way better bands then these Deathcore douches Here are some sick Gutteral vocals that aren't done by some guy wearing their sisters pants or a Tall Tee http://www.youtube.com/v/9ow1-QDOxUY?fs=1&hl=en_US http://www.youtube.com/v/QTMf_Y1BdSY?fs=1&hl=en_US http://www.youtube.com/v/_YauCNkGaC8?fs=1&hl=en_US http://www.youtube.com/v/lpkjLHtylu0?fs=1&hl=en_US

03-20-2011, 05:20 AM	#38
DLG Banned Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Belgrade, Serbia Posts: 3,655 Thanked: 69 $DLG is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $DLG is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $DLG is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $DLG is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $DLG is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $DLG is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $DLG is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I like it when it's used sparingly as well. This band combines pig squeals perfectly imo.

03-20-2011, 06:11 AM	#39
brutus627 bigeh Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: AK-47 Ave. Posts: 144 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	For these type of vocals I like bands that don't seem to write the songs around the breakdowns as others have stated. It seems like that music tends to get boring extremely fast due to the lack of "music" going on there...if I were to lend my opinion on some of the best guts then it would be bands like gutteral secrete, wormed,mutilated,disgorge,cinerary,prophecy just to name a few

03-20-2011, 09:08 AM	#42
Kali Yuga ss.org Regular Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 855 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	The only bad thing about getting into brutal death metal and vocals, is that all the music you used to think was heavy will begin to sound like Justin Timberlake in comparison. I can't get into most of the more mainstream death metal and 'djent' nonsense that gets talked about on this website for of this reason. If you don't like gutturals, it's 'cause you're a pansy. mod edit: you're getting close to getting a nap for genre trolling

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