What was Holdsworth on the Secrets album?

Carrion · 10-10-2007, 10:28 PM

Because this tone is amazing!

What amps, guitars, etc. did he use?

Edit: Just realized how bad the grammar in the title is

that's supposed to be "What was Holdsworth using on the Secrets album?"

God Hand Apostle · 10-11-2007, 01:03 AM

What allan said in 1989:

"One of the other things I'd been perfecting over time was my little load box, the Juice Extractor. When I combine that with certain miking methods, it worked great. On this track, I ran a Mark III Boogie with the Juice Extractor into the Boogie 295 [power amp], and recorded if with a Neumann TLM17D microphone with a James Demeter mike preamp. I used that mike setup for all the guitar solos."

"To create the tones customized for the specific tracks on Secrets, Allan cross-matched ideas, ingenuity and his inventions until he struck on a tasteful variety. Using his Steinberger GM2T, loaded with two custom Seymour Duncan Allan Holdsworth humbuckers and refretted by luthier Bill DeLap with Dunlop 6000 wire, Allan created "City Nights" by running a Boogie Mark III head through the Extractor prototype, into an equalizer, and back into a Boogie Simulclass 295 power amp, using only one side of the unit to drive his speaker box. There, the signal from a Celestion KS speaker was brought to tape via a Neumann TLM 170 microphone. The inline processing for his lead tone included an ADA Stereo Tapped Delay, two ADA mono delay lines and a Lexicon PCM60. Formulas differ on each track; there are few constants. "I used that power amp and the speaker box on all the tracks, with different variables," Allan reports. "On 'Peril Premonition,' for instance, I substituted a Boogie Quad preamp, and used a combination of a Shure SM58 and an AKG 460 on the same Celestion I'm very flexible, because it's all a big experiment to me. If I thought that I'd gotten a really good guitar tone and just left the mike and everything in the same position and used it, I know I'd die after-wards. I wanted to get back to using tube amps. Since I started using the Juice Extractor with the Boogies, I've found that I can get more flexible variations of tone than ever before. I find myself customizing the amp from the outside."

distressed_romeo · 10-11-2007, 05:39 AM

Rep for GHA.

He was using the Synthaxe pretty heavily on this album as well, although I don't know what he was using in terms of sound modules and amplification for it.

I love this album...easily Holdsworth's best.

RgAscendant · 10-11-2007, 06:36 PM

That's a lot of cool information. And I agree, Secrets is utter brilliance!

Jongpil Yun · 10-13-2007, 01:51 AM

The Mark series has the best lead tone, period.

kung_fu · 10-13-2007, 12:29 PM

Not sure what he was "on" but I'd sure like some

. Holdsworth rules

All_¥our_Bass · 10-13-2007, 08:09 PM

He was an asparagus!!

10-10-2007, 10:28 PM	#1
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10-11-2007, 05:39 AM	#3
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10-13-2007, 01:51 AM	#5
Jongpil Yun Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 2,332 Real Name: JP Main Seven: RG 7620 (VK) Thanked: 27	The Mark series has the best lead tone, period. Whether it's laughable or irrational, this is the path that ALL great men walk! If there's a wall in our way, we'll destroy it! If there's no road, we'll pave it with our own hands! The magma in our hearts is blazing like flames! Who the hell do you think we are?

10-13-2007, 12:29 PM	#6
kung_fu Vulcan Lute God Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Oshawa Ontario Canada Posts: 1,068 Real Name: Alex Main Seven: Schecter Omen-7 Rig: SGH-GS200 Thanked: 14	Not sure what he was "on" but I'd sure like some . Holdsworth rules "...and inside the men were three bullets."

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God Hand Apostle VEGANSTRAIGHTEDGE Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago IL. Posts: 761 Main Seven: LTD MH307/KxK order 11/06 Main ERG: 1st Oni 8/VF Mito 7 bass Rig: V-Amp > Crate TD-50C Thanked: 9	What allan said in 1989: "One of the other things I'd been perfecting over time was my little load box, the Juice Extractor. When I combine that with certain miking methods, it worked great. On this track, I ran a Mark III Boogie with the Juice Extractor into the Boogie 295 [power amp], and recorded if with a Neumann TLM17D microphone with a James Demeter mike preamp. I used that mike setup for all the guitar solos." "To create the tones customized for the specific tracks on Secrets, Allan cross-matched ideas, ingenuity and his inventions until he struck on a tasteful variety. Using his Steinberger GM2T, loaded with two custom Seymour Duncan Allan Holdsworth humbuckers and refretted by luthier Bill DeLap with Dunlop 6000 wire, Allan created "City Nights" by running a Boogie Mark III head through the Extractor prototype, into an equalizer, and back into a Boogie Simulclass 295 power amp, using only one side of the unit to drive his speaker box. There, the signal from a Celestion KS speaker was brought to tape via a Neumann TLM 170 microphone. The inline processing for his lead tone included an ADA Stereo Tapped Delay, two ADA mono delay lines and a Lexicon PCM60. Formulas differ on each track; there are few constants. "I used that power amp and the speaker box on all the tracks, with different variables," Allan reports. "On 'Peril Premonition,' for instance, I substituted a Boogie Quad preamp, and used a combination of a Shure SM58 and an AKG 460 on the same Celestion I'm very flexible, because it's all a big experiment to me. If I thought that I'd gotten a really good guitar tone and just left the mike and everything in the same position and used it, I know I'd die after-wards. I wanted to get back to using tube amps. Since I started using the Juice Extractor with the Boogies, I've found that I can get more flexible variations of tone than ever before. I find myself customizing the amp from the outside."

10-11-2007, 06:36 PM	#4
RgAscendant ss.org Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Hartlepool, UK Posts: 306 Real Name: Josh Main Seven: Ibanez RG7321 Rig: PODXTLive->LaneyVC30 Thanked: 3	That's a lot of cool information. And I agree, Secrets is utter brilliance!

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