[Drew]

Originally Posted by Naren

His vocals weren't that skillful either, but they had lots of feeling and energy in them.

Actually, the majority of the doubled vocals on "Nevermind" were alternate vocal takes. They did a few takes, mixed 'em all up in the mix, and basically decided to take them all rather than choosing one. They're not picture-perfect doubled vocals, but the timing and pitch is spot-on. And I happen to love the tone of his voice.

I don't think the post-chorus of "Smells Like Teen Spirit" is really a good example of his songwriting, but to each their own.

For me, Kurt was the guy who played a guitar and made me think, "I want to do that." Jimi was a factor too, but with Hendrix, it was something unattainable - he was the best guitarist ever, his music was impossible to play, ask anyone (slight sarcasm intentional). But with Cobain, there was something powerful in the music and in the sound of the guitar, yet it seemed like something I could do.

So, if his music was the impetus that inspired me (as well as countless others, many of whom have also stuck with it and become fairly technically competent) to learn to play, how can that be a bad thing? If you don't like his music, that's one thing, but saying he was the worst thing to happen to guitar is somewhat off base, IMO.

Anyway, back on topic - Cobain has absolutely nothing to do with Wes Borland, and I'm sorry I started this diversion. Let's talk about him, please.

[Naren]

Originally Posted by Drew

Anyway, back on topic - Cobain has absolutely nothing to do with Wes Borland, and I'm sorry I started this diversion. Let's talk about him, please.

So, yeah, I watched that 7th Heaven video and Wes Borland has some strange ways he tuned his sevens...

[Metal Ken]

Wow. go take a midterm and there's like 4 pages off stuff. I have nothing to add. Both sides have been represented ;p

He actually had a cool idea for tuning, tune it like EADGBEA but down a minor 3rd.

[Pauly]

I liked his 4-string cello blaster thing. He was rocking out in F# way before Meshuggah haha. You can hear it on Nookie for example, tuned F#, F#, B, E. Crazy Mr. Borland.

[tongueofcolicab]

Originally Posted by Naren

Borland may get a bad rep. I don't care for most Limp Bizkit (although I like a lot of songs off the first album, "Two Dollar Bill"), but I do think Borland has his own style. I never bash anyone for playing their own style, even if it is very basic. I've always really liked the Limp Bizkit song, "Pollution" (first track off "Two Dollar Bill"), and, because of that, I can't be down on Wes Borland's style. His four-string guitar intrigues in an odd way... but, anyway, I'd be verrrry interested in hearing his solo album.

just thought i'd clear up that it's three dollar bill ya'll and pollution is track two.

[eleven59]

Clips of the new band up on Myspace:

http://www.myspace.com/blacklightburns

[Shannon]

Originally Posted by eleven59

Clips of the new band up on Myspace:

http://www.myspace.com/blacklightburns

Man, I'm really lamed out on how generic sounding this is.

[Metal Ken]

Originally Posted by Shannon

Man, I'm really lamed out on how generic sounding this is.

Yeah that is pretty bland. Why are they signed? lol.

[Shannon]

Originally Posted by HateBreeder

Yeah that is pretty bland. Why are they signed? lol.

Beats me. With all of his cool techniques and shit, I still have to remember that he WAS in Limp Bizkit. That explains those moments of lameness.

[eleven59]

Well, he did warn us that it'd be unlike anything he'd done before. He's clearly gone in a more industrial direction on this stuff. I like it, but it's definitely not as complex/different as I'd hoped.

I still want to see Eat The Day do something.