[Metal Ken]

Originally Posted by Jan

I know TROUBLE used to be Christian and professed their beliefs on their early records. I thought I read somewhere they rejected faith later on. But I might be wrong.

To my knowledge they just changed their style of music from the older sabbathy doom to a more psychadelic thing and changed their lyrics to match. I've only heard their older stuff though.

Also, there's always mortification. but their one guitar player DID end up quitting, becoming an atheist and start writing papers about why he's an atheist now.

[D-EJ915]

mortification is pretty awesome, scrolls of the megilloth ftw

btw, Indwelling and Sympathy = death metal

[newamerikangospel]

I have to say I truly love this forum. Im surprised that there hasn't been a flood of "j35v5 15n7 t3h M37ul5" posts, but the fact that you people take it seriously enough to listen to the music instead of only the message gives me hope for humanity.

[Slayer89]

Originally Posted by newamerikangospel

I have to say I truly love this forum. Im surprised that there hasn't been a flood of "j35v5 15n7 t3h M37ul5" posts, but the fact that you people take it seriously enough to listen to the music instead of only the message gives me hope for humanity.

j00 15n7 kv17.

Everyone loves da Jesus man. He rocks.


(I actually have this poster on my door)

[Jongpil Yun]

Originally Posted by newamerikangospel

I have to say I truly love this forum. Im surprised that there hasn't been a flood of "j35v5 15n7 t3h M37ul5" posts, but the fact that you people take it seriously enough to listen to the music instead of only the message gives me hope for humanity.

We'd get banz0r3d in a heartbeat. This isn't Off Topic.

[distressed_romeo]

Originally Posted by newamerikangospel

I have to say I truly love this forum. Im surprised that there hasn't been a flood of "j35v5 15n7 t3h M37ul5" posts, but the fact that you people take it seriously enough to listen to the music instead of only the message gives me hope for humanity.

[Ojinomoto]

Originally Posted by Jan

Crimson Moonlight
Rootwater
Pantokrator
My Silent Wake

BADASS STUFF! I just checked out these bands and I must say I'm actually impressed with it all. Christian Metal (White Metal) never seemed to go together in my book, but from what I hear, it sounds like I've found a new genre to fester in!

Originally Posted by newamerikangospel

"j35v5 15n7 t3h M37ul5"

??? I don't follow...

[Metal Ken]

Originally Posted by newamerikangospel

I have to say I truly love this forum. Im surprised that there hasn't been a flood of "j35v5 15n7 t3h M37ul5" posts, but the fact that you people take it seriously enough to listen to the music instead of only the message gives me hope for humanity.

My general rule of thumb is if the music becomes first and foremost about the message, then the music takes a backseat. But there's alway exceptions to the rule. Incubus, Trouble and Orphaned Land are EXCELLENT examples. I like Orphaned Land's approach the best, cause they dont talk about preaching a word. They just present a story.

[Jan]

Originally Posted by Ojinomoto

BADASS STUFF! I just checked out these bands and I must say I'm actually impressed with it all. Christian Metal (White Metal) never seemed to go together in my book, but from what I hear, it sounds like I've found a new genre to fester in!

Huh, I'm really glad I could be of use and recommend some quality music to you... I love sharing my musical "discoveries" with people who are willing to give them a try. Enjoy!

However, I wouldn't call these bands a new "genre". The tag "Christian metal" is a useful thing but it tells us a lot about the lyrics a given band has and nothing really about the music they play. To me it only says: "you can expect positive (not necessarily well written though) lyrics from this band". But bands with Christian lyrics can have ANY style - death, gothic, heavy... So I guess instead "Christian metal genre" it would me more appropriate to use the term "Christian metal scene", since some Christian bands definitely form a scene, i.e. play gigs together or have their CDs distributed by the same distros etc.
End of lecture - period

Originally Posted by newamerikangospel

"j35v5 15n7 t3h M37ul5"

I don't follow either... Is that "Jesus isn't..." I can't make out the rest...

Originally Posted by Metal Ken

My general rule of thumb is if the music becomes first and foremost about the message, then the music takes a backseat. But there's alway exceptions to the rule. Incubus, Trouble and Orphaned Land are EXCELLENT examples. I like Orphaned Land's approach the best, cause they dont talk about preaching a word. They just present a story.

Metal Ken, do you mean that music should be more important then the message and if it's the other way round the quality of music suffers? (I'm asking because I'm not sure if I got it right... If yes, I kind of agree, since we listen to music for the joy of music first of all. Lyrics are usually a secondary thing. However, some people tend to forget that lyrics DO have an impact on others. So positive lyrics can help someone and extremely negative lyrics can bring you down. Of course it all depends on the person but in general I believe we are ALL influenced to some extent by the message that we listen to. But I guess it's wrong when (Christian or other) bands focus on the message so much that they forget they are out there first of all to make quality music and not just to preach.

On the other hand, although I can always appreciate good music regardless of the lyrics, as a Christian I quit listening to satanic or occult bands. I've simply learnt it was affecting my spiritual (and mental too, haha) condition in a bad way. Of course such music wasn't the main reason for my problems, but it certainly wasn't helping. Obviously I don't listen to Christian stuff exclusively, I'm only trying to stay away from the message that I believe hurts others or offends what I believe. So there, I have shared my views...

[Slayer89]

Originally Posted by Jan

I don't follow either... Is that "Jesus isn't..." I can't make out the rest...

It says,

"Jesus isn't teh metalz"

But I have proof to show he IS quite metal.