Can you predict a 7 from a detuned 6?

Regor · 05-12-2007, 03:24 PM

Have you ever heard a new band that you weren't familiar with and been able to tell if it was a detuned 6 or a 7 string?

I was able to tell that Meyvn, Mercenary, and Biomechanical use 7-strings before knowing more about them. Just wondering if anyone else has been able to tell the tonal difference between them.

Sebastian · 05-12-2007, 03:26 PM

MAD SKILLZ there

OzzyC · 05-12-2007, 03:28 PM

I don't think I could predict them, but I might be able differentiate between the two of them.

josh821 · 05-12-2007, 03:49 PM

Erm, only if I them play a C or lower. Detuned guitars usually aren't detuned all the way to B. If they are tuned down that low they're usually baritone guitars. In either case I can't tell if it's a 7 string guitar, detuned 6 string, or baritone guitar if they play a C# power chord. Honestly I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who KNOWS the difference in sound as opposed to can take a pretty good guess based on the notes being played (not the tone).

zimbloth · 05-12-2007, 03:50 PM

The main way to tell is, most bands that use 7 strings use DiMarzios or EMG 707s, which have a distinct sound. I'd say most bands who tune to B with a 6 use Duncans or EMG 81s. Thats the main way to give an educated guess, otherwise there's no real way.

Kotex · 05-12-2007, 03:53 PM

I can usually tell if a band plays 7 or a detuned 6. They just sound different. Even if the 6 is tuned to B, I usually can still tell. They don't sound as good as the real thing.lol

Buzz762 · 05-12-2007, 04:01 PM

With my old band, i used a sixer tuned drop D, down 1 whole step. When I got my seven, I went to work moving our stuff over to seven string so I wouldn't have to switch tunings between songs anymore.. We had always recorded our practices but even listening back, I couldn't tell what guitar I used on each tape, unless I looked at the date.

sakeido · 05-12-2007, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by josh821

Erm, only if I them play a C or lower. Detuned guitars usually aren't detuned all the way to B. If they are tuned down that low they're usually baritone guitars. In either case I can't tell if it's a 7 string guitar, detuned 6 string, or baritone guitar if they play a C# power chord. Honestly I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who KNOWS the difference in sound as opposed to can take a pretty good guess based on the notes being played (not the tone).

I'm pretty sure Devildriver uses standards scale guitars tuned to drop B, and I know that Bury Your Dead uses standard scale guitars tuned to drop A#

I can tell a difference sometimes because usually a 6 string sounds thicker then a 7 string once they get into the middle register. But only sometimes, good production hides it. Live, I count the tuners on the headstocks and look for the distinctive look of a EMG 707 housing

distressed_romeo · 05-12-2007, 04:36 PM

Rarely if ever if I'm honest. It tends to be the range of notes covered that makes me think a track's played on a seven. Tonally though, I'm not sure; when John Petrucci switched to mainly playing detuned sixes rather than sevens I didn't notice until I saw a tab of 'As I Am' in Guitar World...

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zimbloth Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 11,124 Real Name: Nick Main Seven: Rico Jr Customs Main ERG: Ibanez 8 Rig: VHT Pittbull UL Thanked: 61	The main way to tell is, most bands that use 7 strings use DiMarzios or EMG 707s, which have a distinct sound. I'd say most bands who tune to B with a 6 use Duncans or EMG 81s. Thats the main way to give an educated guess, otherwise there's no real way.

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