Holy Diver help

Allen Garrow · 04-28-2007, 09:14 AM

All right, I need some of you dudes to get into the "Way back machine" and help me out here. I swear years ago I read an article on Dio and he was explaining the "Holy Diver" album. He was talking about the controversary surrounding the cover and simply replied that maybe the Preist is beating the beast ( named Murray

). Regardless he then went on explaining how people just assume one thing by first impression and assume what they want regardless of the content.

Now here is the part I need help with. Dio went on to explain that the song Holy Diver had nothing to even do with a preist or a beast. He said the idea came to him while he was watching the L.A. Lakers in the NBA playoffs. He explained what phrases meant like " shiny diamonds means the championship ring, the cat in the middle? was a team mascot or something......
Anyway so for years I've known this to be true, but not being a NBA fan I really have lost touch with the references? I made this statement at work on Friday about the song Holy Diver and was called out to explain or provide proof. All of which I haven not been able to. I was hoping perhaps I wasn't alone here and someone could help me out. Otherwise Fridays won't be the same at work. Every Friday at 2:45 p.m. we do a Dio power set on the Ipod. Holy Diver and Rainbow in the dark is played trough my Ipod with it's F.M. transmitter, all radios in the shop tune in and crank it up. But now if I can somehow prover my point this may have to come to a crashing end.

~A

JJ Rodriguez · 04-28-2007, 09:15 AM

Watch Metal: A Headbanger's Journey. Dio explains the part about it being possible that the priest is beating the demon, but I never heard about the NBA part.

jacksonplayer · 04-28-2007, 09:28 AM

It wouldn't surprise me about the Lakers thing. Dio has gone on record numerous times as saying that he's a huge sports fan and has written many of his songs while watching games on TV. Don't ask me to cite anything, though.

Frankly, the lyrics in the song always struck me as a bunch of nonsense. Nothing at all to do with the album cover. After he left Sabbath, Dio's lyrics took a sharp downturn, in my opinion, like he was just sticking interesting-sounding phrases together. Of course, that guy could sing the telephone book and make it sound

JJ Rodriguez · 04-28-2007, 11:08 AM

Dio's the fucking man, although he's starting to get a skullet. Anyone seen The Pick of Destiny? You know what I'm talking about

telecaster90 · 04-28-2007, 11:11 AM

I heard it was about from cocaine from somewhere. Wikipedia, I think.

Ancestor · 04-28-2007, 11:39 AM

I remember all the stuff you're talking about. He definitely said he got ideas while watching sports. But I think that Dio is interested in making sure that things rhyme. So some of the stuff he does could be interpreted a lot of different ways. I think that's intentional, too.

All the songs on that album are like that. It's like, "Here's what I think it means." "That's cool. Here's what I think it means." I just recently had the opportunity to watch some of his live videos and he will make up some lyrics as he's singing. I know he likes to improv.

jacksonplayer · 04-28-2007, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Rodriguez

Dio's the fucking man, although he's starting to get a skullet.

Ease up on the man. When I'm 65, I can only hope I have half that much metal goodness going on.

Dylan7620 · 04-28-2007, 03:58 PM

on the notes for the dio anthology album he talks about it as sort of a weird sci-fi parellel to the story of jesus.

04-28-2007, 09:14 AM	#1
Allen Garrow Famous Beaver Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Nashville TN Posts: 1,293 Thanked: 6	Holy Diver help All right, I need some of you dudes to get into the "Way back machine" and help me out here. I swear years ago I read an article on Dio and he was explaining the "Holy Diver" album. He was talking about the controversary surrounding the cover and simply replied that maybe the Preist is beating the beast ( named Murray ). Regardless he then went on explaining how people just assume one thing by first impression and assume what they want regardless of the content. Now here is the part I need help with. Dio went on to explain that the song Holy Diver had nothing to even do with a preist or a beast. He said the idea came to him while he was watching the L.A. Lakers in the NBA playoffs. He explained what phrases meant like " shiny diamonds means the championship ring, the cat in the middle? was a team mascot or something...... Anyway so for years I've known this to be true, but not being a NBA fan I really have lost touch with the references? I made this statement at work on Friday about the song Holy Diver and was called out to explain or provide proof. All of which I haven not been able to. I was hoping perhaps I wasn't alone here and someone could help me out. Otherwise Fridays won't be the same at work. Every Friday at 2:45 p.m. we do a Dio power set on the Ipod. Holy Diver and Rainbow in the dark is played trough my Ipod with it's F.M. transmitter, all radios in the shop tune in and crank it up. But now if I can somehow prover my point this may have to come to a crashing end. ~A __________________ Come sopra, dunque di sotto. Fare che lei farà, e nuoce nessuno.

04-28-2007, 09:28 AM	#3
jacksonplayer The Fusion Guy! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 4,194 Thanked: 26	It wouldn't surprise me about the Lakers thing. Dio has gone on record numerous times as saying that he's a huge sports fan and has written many of his songs while watching games on TV. Don't ask me to cite anything, though. Frankly, the lyrics in the song always struck me as a bunch of nonsense. Nothing at all to do with the album cover. After he left Sabbath, Dio's lyrics took a sharp downturn, in my opinion, like he was just sticking interesting-sounding phrases together. Of course, that guy could sing the telephone book and make it sound __________________ Check out my home page: www.councilofone.net

04-28-2007, 11:11 AM	#5
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Dylan7620 that guy Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Tulalip "the #1 place for fun" WA Posts: 1,677 Thanked: 7 / 1	on the notes for the dio anthology album he talks about it as sort of a weird sci-fi parellel to the story of jesus. __________________ "are there gonna be snacks? i heard there were gonna be snacks."

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04-28-2007, 09:15 AM	#2
JJ Rodriguez Pantysniffing zombie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 10,313 Thanked: 71	Watch Metal: A Headbanger's Journey. Dio explains the part about it being possible that the priest is beating the demon, but I never heard about the NBA part.

04-28-2007, 11:08 AM	#4
JJ Rodriguez Pantysniffing zombie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 10,313 Thanked: 71	Dio's the fucking man, although he's starting to get a skullet. Anyone seen The Pick of Destiny? You know what I'm talking about

04-28-2007, 11:39 AM	#6
Ancestor Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,260 Thanked: 35 $Ancestor is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Ancestor is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Ancestor is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Ancestor is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Ancestor is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Ancestor is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Ancestor is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$	I remember all the stuff you're talking about. He definitely said he got ideas while watching sports. But I think that Dio is interested in making sure that things rhyme. So some of the stuff he does could be interpreted a lot of different ways. I think that's intentional, too. All the songs on that album are like that. It's like, "Here's what I think it means." "That's cool. Here's what I think it means." I just recently had the opportunity to watch some of his live videos and he will make up some lyrics as he's singing. I know he likes to improv.

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