GODDAMN, what in the blue hell was I thinking???

Hexer · 02-26-2007, 08:56 AM

ok, this thread is pretty much pointless lol

I've gone through the weird/polyrythmic/polymetric/odd time signature stuff I've been writing in GuitarPro5 and BLOODDY HELL, I've written a few pretty damn fucked up riffs there

with a few of them I just cant seem to kill my brain enough to play them along to the tab

has something like this happend to you before?

EDIT: I'd love to just record some of that stuff, but I probably would get really pissed off somewhere in the process of laying down the tracks

ElRay · 02-26-2007, 04:45 PM

That's why Zappa eventually had Via start playing guitar for in the band -- Zappa could come up with bits he couldn't play. Believe it or not, Via was hired as a transcriptionist and for a while did little more than to take a stack of daily tapes home at the end of the day and transcribe them overnight. When Via actually did start playing what Frank couldn't, the credits listed Via as playing "Stunt Guitar".

Makelele · 02-26-2007, 04:50 PM

Vai.

yeah, i sometimes come up with stuff I can't play. Mostly I can't play stuff as fast as I want.

Hexer · 02-26-2007, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makelele

Vai.

yeah, i sometimes come up with stuff I can't play. Mostly I can't play stuff as fast as I want.

oh yes, I definitaly know what you mean!

All_¥our_Bass · 02-27-2007, 04:28 AM

Mainly it's the speed.

Naren · 02-27-2007, 05:35 AM

Vai is a good example of that kind of stuff.

For me, I'm just not really interested in polyrhythms. I like to listen to Bulb/Periphery's stuff, but I'd never write anything like that myself. Not so much that I can't, but that I just don't. If you heard my current band's entire catalogue, you'd see how a polyrhythmic song wouldn't fit at all in my/our style.

I have had several times where I've written a riff in 6/4 or 7/4 or some time signature like that without realizing it at the time I made the song, then when I tried to make a sample version of it for the other guitarist using my GNX3000's drums, I realize that my riffs don't fit in 4/4 time. But, since there aren't any 6/4 or 7/4 drum beats in my GNX (except maybe in the progressive section), I pick a 4/4 drumbeat I like and rewrite the riff by adding parts and removing parts to make it work in 4/4. I normally write all my songs in 4/4, but when I do write one in a different time signature, I usually end up re-writing it into 4/4.

Hexer · 02-27-2007, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by All_¥our_Bass

Mainly it's the speed.

right, mainly but thats not the only issue here

Naren: it wouldnt fit with my bands stuff either. and most of the other stuff I write wouldnt fit, too. thats why I have my solo-project and I have that idea in my head about starting another solo-project for all the experimental and poly-stuff
SSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many ideas, but soooooooo little time (plus I'm too fucking lazy

)

Jongpil Yun · 03-11-2007, 02:56 AM

As long as you don't start writing in time signatures like e/pi, then you're fine.

If you want to talk about bizarre polyrhythms and stuff, you've GOT to listen to Conlon Nancarrow's studies for the player piano. Insane, and... insane.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conlon_Nancarrow

Check out the sound samples at the bottom.

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02-26-2007, 08:56 AM	#1 (permalink)
Hexer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 923 Main Seven: RAN Custom V Main ERG: cheap 6 in a weird tuning Rig: ENGL Powerball V2 Thanked: 4	GODDAMN, what in the blue hell was I thinking??? ok, this thread is pretty much pointless lol I've gone through the weird/polyrythmic/polymetric/odd time signature stuff I've been writing in GuitarPro5 and BLOODDY HELL, I've written a few pretty damn fucked up riffs there with a few of them I just cant seem to kill my brain enough to play them along to the tab has something like this happend to you before? EDIT: I'd love to just record some of that stuff, but I probably would get really pissed off somewhere in the process of laying down the tracks

02-26-2007, 04:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
Makelele ss.org Regular Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 2,034 Real Name: Markus Main Seven: Ibanez RG2077XL, Jackson Rig: Flextone 2 Thanked: 24	Vai. yeah, i sometimes come up with stuff I can't play. Mostly I can't play stuff as fast as I want. Now I lay me down to sleep Blah, blah, blah my soul to keep If I die before I wake I'll go to hell for heaven's sake

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ElRay Mostly Harmless Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 1,083 Real Name: DjentArthurDjen Thanked: 21 $ElRay is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $ElRay is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $ElRay is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $ElRay is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $ElRay is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $ElRay is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $ElRay is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$	That's why Zappa eventually had Via start playing guitar for in the band -- Zappa could come up with bits he couldn't play. Believe it or not, Via was hired as a transcriptionist and for a while did little more than to take a stack of daily tapes home at the end of the day and transcribe them overnight. When Via actually did start playing what Frank couldn't, the credits listed Via as playing "Stunt Guitar".

02-27-2007, 05:35 AM	#6 (permalink)
Naren OldschoolGhettostyle Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Tokyo Posts: 12,392 Real Name: Eric Main Seven: RG1527-GK, RG7EXFX2-IPT Rig: GNX3000 Thanked: 35	Vai is a good example of that kind of stuff. For me, I'm just not really interested in polyrhythms. I like to listen to Bulb/Periphery's stuff, but I'd never write anything like that myself. Not so much that I can't, but that I just don't. If you heard my current band's entire catalogue, you'd see how a polyrhythmic song wouldn't fit at all in my/our style. I have had several times where I've written a riff in 6/4 or 7/4 or some time signature like that without realizing it at the time I made the song, then when I tried to make a sample version of it for the other guitarist using my GNX3000's drums, I realize that my riffs don't fit in 4/4 time. But, since there aren't any 6/4 or 7/4 drum beats in my GNX (except maybe in the progressive section), I pick a 4/4 drumbeat I like and rewrite the riff by adding parts and removing parts to make it work in 4/4. I normally write all my songs in 4/4, but when I do write one in a different time signature, I usually end up re-writing it into 4/4.

03-11-2007, 02:56 AM	#8 (permalink)
Jongpil Yun Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 2,205 Real Name: JP Main Seven: RG 7620 (VK) Thanked: 24	As long as you don't start writing in time signatures like e/pi, then you're fine. If you want to talk about bizarre polyrhythms and stuff, you've GOT to listen to Conlon Nancarrow's studies for the player piano. Insane, and... insane. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conlon_Nancarrow Check out the sound samples at the bottom.

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