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Unread 06-25-2012, 12:18 AM   #1
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Lightbulb Raised A tuning for Extreme soloing

I saw a Ibanez 30 fret guitar not long ago and I got an idea for extreme soloing for it, I'm not much for super high key soloing but I had the idea of Tuning one to Raised A tuning (basically E standard minus the low E and a High A440 string)and already on a 24 fret guitar its extremely high, a perfect 4th higher than normal, sounds not much but really it is.(I know so cause I tune down a P4 from Standard to B) But I wonder if any extreme or Super Power metal bands or any band would do this? You'd get some seriously insane solos into the stratosphere lol.
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Unread 06-25-2012, 12:58 AM   #2
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Unread 06-25-2012, 01:06 AM   #3
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That is one weird looking guitar. Thats probably how the Uli Jon Roth guitar started then they realized that the horn was so thin they might as well knock it off

I dont personally desire to go any higher than the 24th fret on high E. I think it would probably sound pretty shrill that high up.
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There's plenty of talk about high A tuning here It doesn't work without Octave4Plus strings on a normal scale guitar, though.
I definitely wouldn't fancy a 6 string for it - no low E would be fine for solos but I wouldn't like it for riffing at all.
I'm planning to have a short scale 7 string made with a high A and a trem for 'Extreme soloing' haha
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My dad told me most Glam metal bands play in A even though tuned to E >.> , A sounds interesting to me.
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Unread 06-25-2012, 01:56 AM   #7
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Quite possible - I can think of a few oldies I've covered that are in A.
However key of the song has nothing to do with tuning - I'd just feel weird not being able to lower than A regardless of what key I'm playing in

Can give it a try but you'll be needing O4P strings or a guitar with 23" scale length or so. Or you can just tune to G and Capo
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Yeah , I thought it was true
You got a point too, even if the high A string existed long ago, not many would have just strictly used it, they would miss the Low E
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Really this is food for thought, I always think of odd ideas like this.
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Playing in A for Riffing would be fun for me and I already do so with Dropped A on my Guitar, more for contrasting, Im sure it would work fine. Octave4plus A440 is a definite need for it , I don't know how well it would do with the trem >.> but I seen the high string on many different types of guitars. 7, 8 even a 11 string guitar that had 43 frets I believe O.o, and the scale had to be past 30" lol I'll look for the youtube video it was on later.
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Playing in A for Riffing would be fun for me and I already do so with Dropped A on my Guitar, more for contrasting, Im sure it would work fine. Octave4plus A440 is a definite need for it , I don't know how well it would do with the trem >.> but I seen the high string on many different types of guitars. 7, 8 even a 11 string guitar that had 43 frets I believe O.o, and the scale had to be past 30" lol I'll look for the youtube video it was on later.
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Raised A-tuning? I tuned my 22 fret Telecaster to G-standard and even that made my ears bleed.
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IMO, anything higher than the 24th fret in E standard on the high E would give me a massive headache.
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ss.org, where all extended range is good - as long as it's in bass territory. Those violins can keep their high notes, get off my lawn!
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I don't see anything wrong with what I wrote, its just a general quick comment, maybe slow down and read it, then again I did write that at 2am so eh. Seems ok with me. It could be worse.
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or you could just use a pedal.... I agree with the massive headache as well. "Marooned" is one of my favorite solos but the super high notes still rustle my jimmies sometimes when I listen to it. I think maybe if you could work out a good tone specifically for playing notes that high up you could do some cool stuff though. There are definitley other instruments that can play notes that high and not sound annoying as .... so im sure tweaking tone and effects you could do some cool stuff. Definitely slower playing would be easier to pull off and have it sound good. The problem with shredding that high up and staying up there is its too many high notes and it would sound annoying really easily if you threw in only a few high notes though or did string skipping it would be cool.
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Playing in A for Riffing would be fun for me and I already do so with Dropped A on my Guitar, more for contrasting, Im sure it would work fine. Octave4plus A440 is a definite need for it , I don't know how well it would do with the trem >.> but I seen the high string on many different types of guitars. 7, 8 even a 11 string guitar that had 43 frets I believe O.o, and the scale had to be past 30" lol I'll look for the youtube video it was on later.
Playing on the 2nd A string in Dropped A (A E "A" D F# B), going between octaves for contrasting low and "higher" A strings. But now just using that A2 string as the lowest string for Raised A to get a brighter rhythm sound as compared to the Darker Low A1.\m/ The Octave4plus A440 string, High A4 is very much needed, other strings would break. I don't know if it would break when using the tremolo. And continued to say on many different types of guitars; people have used the High A, so it shouldn't be an issue in theory. Now I will look for that cool 11 string guitar video, I hope guys will enjoy it.
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I'd be ok with the violins not playing their high notes either, not a fan of super-high notes in general. Then there's piccolos... ever sit with your ear next to the business end of a piccolo? It's actually painful.
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Listen to Dragonforce. Guitars, 24th frets, sliding up, Mickey Mouse... it's fun for some but usually it's just cheese.
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I'm in favor of not playing a bunch of ultra-high notes as well. Personally, I rarely play above the 15th-17th fret. Sonny Sharrock used to say of soloing on the wound strings: "That's a tenor saxophone down there, man!" I'm inclined to agree. Give me a tenor over a soprano sax any day.
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I played one of those at NAMM a couple years ago, the last few frets were so tight spaced, I couldn't really even get my fingers on em' properly. It felt kind of like a toy, really.
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looks way better...
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