Making sure work isn't stolen?

John Matrix · 06-23-2012, 07:48 AM

Not been active here in a long while but I know you guys tend to be in the know about this kind of stuff. I've tabbed out a bunch of songs in Guitar Pro that I want to send out to potential band members, how can I ensure that the music can't be stolen?

Necris · 06-23-2012, 07:53 AM

To be completely honest you really can't as far as I'm aware. Once you've sent someone the tabs of everything you've written it's out of your hands.

The Uncreator · 06-23-2012, 08:00 AM

Have some form of written, video, or some kind of documentation showing you had the songs in your possession before they did. Simplest thing I could think of would be making a video showing the tabs and something that shows the date and time of year that clearly cant be changed, like a news website or something.

Very crude but I know people who have done it. Or, you can register an ISRC for it? Then you would be the sole owner of that code, as long as you know it and no one else does then it should be fine.

However that takes time and money to do.

texshred777 · 06-23-2012, 07:05 PM

I may be incorrect, but the various "poor man's copyright" methods-mailing it to yourself, etc doesn't hold up in court(in the US anyway-I don't know about abroad).

If you think you have something I'd err on the side of caution and properly register for copy rights to your IP.

Narrillnezzurh · 06-24-2012, 01:25 AM

texshred777 is correct, that kind of thing doesn't actually work. You will have to record whatever you can of the material, and purchase a copyright on it. My memory's a bit hazy on the process, but it isn't particularly long, and it's not expensive. Do some digging of your own on taking out a copyright, see what's involved, and what you need to do to get the process started.

And it might not be my place to ask, but why are you sending original music out to "potential" band members?

Floppystrings · 06-24-2012, 05:24 AM

Sweep the leg Johnny.

Deadnightshade · 06-24-2012, 05:37 AM

Make crappy music

Volteau · 06-24-2012, 09:06 AM

You can try this out:

MyFreeCopyright.com: FREE Copyright Protection

JamesM · 06-24-2012, 09:08 AM

You can't. Don't send it unless you're sure of them. Trust me.

Dan_Vacant · 06-24-2012, 12:07 PM

threaten to wale then with a length of chain!

Eric Christian · 06-24-2012, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Matrix

Not been active here in a long while but I know you guys tend to be in the know about this kind of stuff. I've tabbed out a bunch of songs in Guitar Pro that I want to send out to potential band members, how can I ensure that the music can't be stolen?

There are only 12 notes. No matter how original you think your music is someone has probably already created the same melody. Therefore you probably need to create a full composition, press a CD and then copyright it by sending it to the government. Then you have some legal recourse.

tm20 · 06-24-2012, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadnightshade

Make crappy music

kind of what i did. joined a band weeks ago and they asked me to write a song. isn't the best but it's ok. i'm keeping my better songs to myself for now

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John Matrix ss.org Regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 86 Thanked: 17 / 1 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Making sure work isn't stolen? Not been active here in a long while but I know you guys tend to be in the know about this kind of stuff. I've tabbed out a bunch of songs in Guitar Pro that I want to send out to potential band members, how can I ensure that the music can't be stolen?

06-23-2012, 07:53 AM	#2
Necris Bonitis. Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Somewhere in New York Posts: 2,426 Thanked: 14 Feedback Score: 5 reviews	To be completely honest you really can't as far as I'm aware. Once you've sent someone the tabs of everything you've written it's out of your hands. Extreme Syncopation =/= Poly-rhythmic

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The Uncreator Control The Sun Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: St. Pete Posts: 916 Thanked: 31 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Have some form of written, video, or some kind of documentation showing you had the songs in your possession before they did. Simplest thing I could think of would be making a video showing the tabs and something that shows the date and time of year that clearly cant be changed, like a news website or something. Very crude but I know people who have done it. Or, you can register an ISRC for it? Then you would be the sole owner of that code, as long as you know it and no one else does then it should be fine. However that takes time and money to do. L A S C A I L L E 'S ☼ S H R O U D Progressive Cosmic Death Metal SoundCloud ☼ Facebook

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texshred777 SS.org Regular Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,010 Thanked: 7 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I may be incorrect, but the various "poor man's copyright" methods-mailing it to yourself, etc doesn't hold up in court(in the US anyway-I don't know about abroad). If you think you have something I'd err on the side of caution and properly register for copy rights to your IP.

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Narrillnezzurh Vagrant Soloist Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 524 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	texshred777 is correct, that kind of thing doesn't actually work. You will have to record whatever you can of the material, and purchase a copyright on it. My memory's a bit hazy on the process, but it isn't particularly long, and it's not expensive. Do some digging of your own on taking out a copyright, see what's involved, and what you need to do to get the process started. And it might not be my place to ask, but why are you sending original music out to "potential" band members?

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