Nile, wtf? - Page 2

JamesM · 05-27-2012, 12:15 PM

Sounds like an unfinished mix to me. I don't think it's done. Well, I'm hoping it isn't done.

EDIT:
Let me clarify. I love old-school mixing techniques to death. However, when it comes to most metal I think it requires a very technical and processed approach to sound good.

revclay · 05-27-2012, 12:20 PM

I am not a huge fan of the vocals, but I enjoyed the song quite a bit. I'm not sure if I like the transition at ~3:00 or so but I bet I would get over it after a few listens. And sure, the production is a bit raw, but I kind of like it. It's nice to hear Nile doing something different. I stopped following them closely because I feel like a lot of their stuff was starting to sound the same. This sounds fresh so that in and of itself is commendable to me.

Demiurge · 05-27-2012, 12:38 PM

Not the greatest Nile song ever, but I can't understand the overwhelming disappointment. I say that with good faith that the online stream is not a reflection of the sound quality of the official release... and I'm a sucker for when Nile works a slow, lurching section into their faster songs.

CrownofWorms · 05-27-2012, 12:42 PM

I dig it. The shouted vocals is from an old vocalist that used to play in Nile. I read somewhere that he would be heard throughout this album(not saying all of it, but he would be a lot more present)

UnderTheSign · 05-27-2012, 12:45 PM

I don't mind the vocals. Mix could've been a bit thicker and drums could've been a bit lower but it's perfectly listenable.

What I'm worried about is the promo shot... Nile gone pretty boy?

Underworld · 05-27-2012, 12:50 PM

The guitars sound thin, I don't like the vocals and the mix in general. I've never been a true Nile fan, and this album won't help. Too bad for me I guess!

Floppystrings · 05-27-2012, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Equivoke

Also just because the song isn't Kafir doesn't mean George isn't doing hard stuff, or going to to do "krayzzee" stuff on the album. If you are listening to a band purely for blast beats at 290 you are doing it wrong.

I never said what he is playing isn't hard, all I am asking for is an extended double bass roll at 270. Is is something that George can do, and few people can do it so I was expecting to hear it.

It would have make the slower parts sound more interesting.

I am speaking as a big Nile/George fan, it just seems the song is a bit stripped down.

drmosh · 05-27-2012, 02:23 PM

I think it's ....ing awesome.
And seriously, if that drumming isn't crazy I don't know what is.

drmosh · 05-27-2012, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Floppystrings

I never said what he is playing isn't hard, all I am asking for is an extended double bass roll at 270.

why? if it doesn't fit the song. I don't get your argument at all

brutalslam · 05-27-2012, 03:17 PM

I love it! and the low growls sound great

Prydogga · 05-27-2012, 03:28 PM

'The song has no structure'

I thought the riffs evolved well over time, it may be very linear, but I thought it was well executed.

The vocals (especially at 3:20) and the drum mix are a little odd to me, but overall I really dug this song.

drawnacrol · 05-27-2012, 03:33 PM

Sounds like a demo version but the guitar riffs are pretty cool and IMO the mix is clearer than there recent albums even if it is weak/thin.

DrakkarTyrannis · 05-27-2012, 03:51 PM

Personally I HATE Neil Kernon's mixing on Nile's stuff..I hate Neil Kernon's stuff in general..I hate the way he ....ed up Cannibal Corpse's The Wretched Spawn. I'd take this over the way he ....ed up their last cds.

As for Nile's "new" sound here, what's wrong with it? A band is doing something different? *gasp* Heaven forbid it doesn't sound like the stuff they've been doing. I think everyone's overreacting and it annoys me when people get their tits in the wringer over a band trying to add something to their collection of work instead of a long lineage of basic.

I like the new song. I haven't really payed metal much attention as of late but I find myself listening to this song multiple times. I'll be picking this up

metalstrike · 05-27-2012, 04:03 PM

I like it. To me it sounds better than most of the songs on their last few albums.

All_¥our_Bass · 05-27-2012, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaYoN

If anything, the vocals, production and riffing remind me of the first Nile album.

Not gonna listen till I buy it, but I really like the first Nile album.

Grack · 05-27-2012, 04:56 PM

Not particularly a bad song, sounds like your standard Nile. Ugh, but those clean/shouted vocals are ....ing awful, absolutely dreadful. Some guitar parts sound improvised, and not in a good way either.

And, you know, guitars too thin/weak, lack of overall bass, blah blah blah...

Love the album art, though.

exo · 05-27-2012, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToreFagerheim

So I'm guessing some of you have heard the new Nile song?

Nile: 'The Fiends Who Come to Steal the Magick of the Deceased' (PREMIERE) - Noisecreep

Personally I had great expectations for this, thinking it would be even more epic than their last two albums. I was wrong.
- The song has no structure
- The vocals sound like someone puking and generally being ill
- The whole just feels pointless, it goes nowhere
- The mix is absolutely abysmal. What the hell?!

What do you think?

Uhh.....this sounds EXACTLY LIKE NILE. I don't get the bitching about anything other than the mix............

Lirtle · 05-27-2012, 06:58 PM

The only thing I hate is that ....ing snare. Everything else sounded pretty good to me.

Adam Of Angels · 05-27-2012, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnderTheSign

I don't mind the vocals. Mix could've been a bit thicker and drums could've been a bit lower but it's perfectly listenable.

What I'm worried about is the promo shot... Nile gone pretty boy?

....where are the pretty boys?

Thep · 05-27-2012, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam Of Angels

....where are the pretty boys?

The fat one on the right,

Guitarman700 · 05-27-2012, 07:28 PM

I AM BIG FAN
MAKE LOTZ OF MUZIK. LOTZ.
BUT IF YU CHANGE ANYTING
I WILL FIND YOU

Seriously though. It sounds like a livestream of a rough mix of a Nile song. Pretty much what I expected.

FrancescoFiligoi · 05-27-2012, 07:55 PM

Song is good for me, but the mix is very different, and way less brutal and raw than their previous work.

shellbound · 05-27-2012, 08:01 PM

i don't mind the clean vocals, actually, but the shouted ones are ....ing awful. guitars are kind of thin. and that snare blows.

bummer.

Stealthdjentstic · 05-27-2012, 08:06 PM

I was trying to figure out what the guitars sounds like...and I realized they sound like a pod xt

Icecold · 05-27-2012, 10:25 PM

If been a big Nile kick recently and I really enjoyed this song. This band needed a change at some point down the line, on the last 2 albums it would get to a point to where I could barely tell the difference between most of the tracks.

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05-27-2012, 12:15 PM	#26
JamesM The Armada Join Date: May 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 6,925 Thanked: 86 Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Sounds like an unfinished mix to me. I don't think it's done. Well, I'm hoping it isn't done. EDIT: Let me clarify. I love old-school mixing techniques to death. However, when it comes to most metal I think it requires a very technical and processed approach to sound good. Cloudyhead. Facebook//Twitter//Bandcamp Watch:1,2,3,4,5 Debut Album, Abstraction out now!

05-27-2012, 12:20 PM	#27
revclay SS.org Regular Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ithaca, NY Posts: 881 Thanked: 18 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I am not a huge fan of the vocals, but I enjoyed the song quite a bit. I'm not sure if I like the transition at ~3:00 or so but I bet I would get over it after a few listens. And sure, the production is a bit raw, but I kind of like it. It's nice to hear Nile doing something different. I stopped following them closely because I feel like a lot of their stuff was starting to sound the same. This sounds fresh so that in and of itself is commendable to me. VIRGA Full-length album, Fragments of Us All, out now! http://virga.bandcamp.com/ www.facebook.com/virgaband www.youtube.com/virgaband

05-27-2012, 12:38 PM	#28
Demiurge Intrepid Jackass Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Worcester, MA Posts: 2,324 Thanked: 7 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Not the greatest Nile song ever, but I can't understand the overwhelming disappointment. I say that with good faith that the online stream is not a reflection of the sound quality of the official release... and I'm a sucker for when Nile works a slow, lurching section into their faster songs. Scar Symmetry likes this. "I like Christian rock. It's very positive. It's not like those real musicians who think they're so cool and hip." -George Costanza

05-27-2012, 03:17 PM	#35
brutalslam SLAMZ Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: USA Posts: 600 Thanked: 18 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I love it! and the low growls sound great My Brutal Death Metal Project www.youtube.com/calculatedbarbarity

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05-27-2012, 12:42 PM	#29
CrownofWorms SS.org Regular Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Chicago, Ill, United States Posts: 1,366 Thanked: 42 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I dig it. The shouted vocals is from an old vocalist that used to play in Nile. I read somewhere that he would be heard throughout this album(not saying all of it, but he would be a lot more present)

05-27-2012, 12:45 PM	#30
UnderTheSign SS.org Regular Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: West Coast, The Netherlands Posts: 1,435 Thanked: 32 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I don't mind the vocals. Mix could've been a bit thicker and drums could've been a bit lower but it's perfectly listenable. What I'm worried about is the promo shot... Nile gone pretty boy?

05-27-2012, 12:50 PM	#31
Underworld SS.org Regular Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Quebec, Canada Posts: 1,025 Thanked: 31 Feedback Score: 17 reviews	The guitars sound thin, I don't like the vocals and the mix in general. I've never been a true Nile fan, and this album won't help. Too bad for me I guess!

05-27-2012, 02:23 PM	#33
drmosh Sir Paul of the Mosh Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 4,690 Thanked: 29 $drmosh is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $drmosh is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $drmosh is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $drmosh is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $drmosh is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $drmosh is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $drmosh is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 9 reviews	I think it's ....ing awesome. And seriously, if that drumming isn't crazy I don't know what is.

05-27-2012, 03:28 PM	#36
Prydogga Giddyup. Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Apartment 5B, New York (Vic, Australia) Posts: 10,513 Thanked: 81 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	'The song has no structure' I thought the riffs evolved well over time, it may be very linear, but I thought it was well executed. The vocals (especially at 3:20) and the drum mix are a little odd to me, but overall I really dug this song. drmosh and JamesM like this. M E M O I R S Music from myself and Kurkkuviipale! http://soundcloud.com/m-e-m-o-i-r-s I also do graphic design, both freelance and for label Myriad Records.

05-27-2012, 03:33 PM	#37
drawnacrol 7slinger Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,232 Thanked: 16 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sounds like a demo version but the guitar riffs are pretty cool and IMO the mix is clearer than there recent albums even if it is weak/thin. My Guitar Videos: http://www.youtube.com/drawnacrol

05-27-2012, 03:51 PM	#38
DrakkarTyrannis FUCK DJENT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 4,189 Thanked: 130 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Personally I HATE Neil Kernon's mixing on Nile's stuff..I hate Neil Kernon's stuff in general..I hate the way he ....ed up Cannibal Corpse's The Wretched Spawn. I'd take this over the way he ....ed up their last cds. As for Nile's "new" sound here, what's wrong with it? A band is doing something different? gasp Heaven forbid it doesn't sound like the stuff they've been doing. I think everyone's overreacting and it annoys me when people get their tits in the wringer over a band trying to add something to their collection of work instead of a long lineage of basic. I like the new song. I haven't really payed metal much attention as of late but I find myself listening to this song multiple times. I'll be picking this up

05-27-2012, 04:03 PM	#39
metalstrike Needs more guitars Join Date: May 2010 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 132 Thanked: 31 / 1 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I like it. To me it sounds better than most of the songs on their last few albums. Carvin DC700 Ibanez RG220 Axe-FX II Dynaudio BM5A MKII Monitors http://www.last.fm/user/metalstrike

05-27-2012, 04:56 PM	#41
Grack Tr00 and Kvlt Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Dällis, Teksis Posts: 113 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Not particularly a bad song, sounds like your standard Nile. Ugh, but those clean/shouted vocals are ....ing awful, absolutely dreadful. Some guitar parts sound improvised, and not in a good way either. And, you know, guitars too thin/weak, lack of overall bass, blah blah blah... Love the album art, though.

05-27-2012, 06:58 PM	#43
Lirtle SS.org Regular Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: New York, NY Posts: 334 Thanked: 9 Feedback Score: 6 reviews	The only thing I hate is that ....ing snare. Everything else sounded pretty good to me.

05-27-2012, 07:28 PM	#46
Guitarman700 SS.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Traverse City, MI Posts: 4,841 Thanked: 22 Feedback Score: 13 reviews	I AM BIG FAN MAKE LOTZ OF MUZIK. LOTZ. BUT IF YU CHANGE ANYTING I WILL FIND YOU Seriously though. It sounds like a livestream of a rough mix of a Nile song. Pretty much what I expected. "FFDP is metal for Nascar fans."-Rick "Someone said they like guns. I like Mel Gibson."-God

05-27-2012, 07:55 PM	#47
FrancescoFiligoi Count Blastula Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Italy Posts: 1,280 Thanked: 51 Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Song is good for me, but the mix is very different, and way less brutal and raw than their previous work. Now teaching on BANDHAPPY

05-27-2012, 08:01 PM	#48
shellbound ss.org Regular Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Chicago Posts: 46 Thanked: 2 / 1 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i don't mind the clean vocals, actually, but the shouted ones are ....ing awful. guitars are kind of thin. and that snare blows. bummer. https://soundcloud.com/dead-end-dance https://soundcloud.com/shellbound

05-27-2012, 08:06 PM	#49
Stealthdjentstic Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canadia Posts: 19,978 Thanked: 338 Feedback Score: 10 reviews	I was trying to figure out what the guitars sounds like...and I realized they sound like a pod xt Thep likes this.

05-27-2012, 10:25 PM	#50
Icecold ss.org Regular Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: california Posts: 59 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If been a big Nile kick recently and I really enjoyed this song. This band needed a change at some point down the line, on the last 2 albums it would get to a point to where I could barely tell the difference between most of the tracks.

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