Volumes, tuned up to Bb?! - Page 3

Guitarman700 · 04-20-2012, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by summit101

I SHOULD HAVE CALLED THEM "MELODIC METALCORE" IM SORRY.. WHETHER IT REALLY EVEN APPLIES OR NOT

Genres are not subjective. They help people classify bands and decide what to listen to, as well as telling people what they sound like. No need to get so bent out of shape.

summit101 · 04-20-2012, 07:50 AM

if i can be anymore clear. everything has energy, there-fore energy is able to interfere and react with other energy in some way or another. anything and everything is effected by energy.

sound has energy - people have energy.

Guitarman700 · 04-20-2012, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by summit101

if i can be anymore clear. everything has energy, there-fore energy is able to interfere and react with other energy in some way or another. anything and everything is effected by energy.

sound has energy - people have energy.

Not true. Energy is simply a measure of a physical system's ability to do work, as expressed by E=W. Energy is not some mystical force that people and things simply "have".
But this has gotten way, way off topic.

Greatoliver · 04-20-2012, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by summit101

if i can be anymore clear. everything has energy, there-fore energy is able to interfere and react with other energy in some way or another. anything and everything is effected by energy.

sound is energy - people are energy.

Well that is true. It is a different matter if we are actually able to sense the different parts/speeds that our bodies are resonating at. For example, the difference in frequency between A and Aflat is small, and it may not be noticable. Furthermore, just because the bottom string is tuned to a certain note, it doesn't mean that it will be the key that the song is played in (oh wait, we're talking about plural bands here!

). Hell, it may not even be played in the song (plural bands are the opposite

), or scarcely. So I'm not really sure the idea of resonance is a good explanation why people use lower tunings - I think it might be because people think lower = better.

Everyone knows you can't djent above drop A

petereanima · 04-20-2012, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Guitarman700

Genres are not subjective. They help people classify bands and decide what to listen to, as well as telling people what they sound like. No need to get so bent out of shape.

Even further, "Hardcore" is much more than a just a genre and means a lot to many people.

Getting every whigger band labeled "xyxyDJyxy core" is like a constant insult. Its bad enough that all these retards at Kerrang and whathaveyou are too dumb to understand, but at least on ss.org we should be able to handle that.

EDIT: If everyone promises not to throw around that term so losely anymore, I'll promise to keep my dirtmouth shut.

Guitarman700 · 04-20-2012, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by petereanima

Even further, "Hardcore" is much more than a just a genre and means a lot to many people.

Getting every whigger band labeled "xyxyDJyxy core" is like a constant insult. Its bad enough that all these retards at Kerrang and whathaveyou are too dumb to understand, but at least on ss.org we should be able to handle that.

My point exactly.

no_dice · 04-20-2012, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Guitarman700

this has gotten way, way off topic.

I like some of Volumes' stuff, but a majority of it is pretty bland and boring. I can see how they have potential to do great things, but they are still a young band, so maybe they will mature. There's a sweet groove in Edge of the Earth with some nice ghost notes on the snare. I really wish they would do more intricate stuff like that.

I also don't like the whole ghetto boys in melodic metal image thing, but that is a separate issue from the music being played.

summit101 · 04-20-2012, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Guitarman700

Not true. Energy is simply a measure of a physical system's ability to do work, as expressed by E=W. Energy is not some mystical force that people and things simply "have".
But this has gotten way, way off topic.

all i can suggest is what if energy has Intelligence behind it?

EDIT: what i mean is, we have energy and we are conscious beings. would that conclude my most recent statement?

Guitarman700 · 04-20-2012, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by summit101

all i can suggest is what if energy has Intelligence behind it?

What if the sun is made of pizza?
See, anyone can make extraordinary claims, but without any evidence to back it up, you're just wildly guessing with no basis in reality.

summit101 · 04-20-2012, 08:04 AM

these are only ideas! its up to you to decide what is true to you and what you perceive to be reality.

Guitarman700 · 04-20-2012, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by summit101

these are only ideas! its up to you to decide what is true to you and what you perceive to be reality.

Reality is separate from human perception. It isn't shaped by us, or dependent on us. We don't get to decide what's real or not.
Anyway, it's clear you have no idea what critical thinking, scientific burden of proof or false claims are, and this is WAY off topic, so whatever. Enjoy your thread.

summit101 · 04-20-2012, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Guitarman700

Reality is separate from human perception. It isn't shaped by us, or dependent on us. We don't get to decide what's real or not.

sigh. WHAT IF WE COULD DECIDE? JUST LIKE THAT?

edit: because you will in no way have the exact same physical environment as i there for, reality to us will always be different and can never be the same.

edit: sry for caps

Guitarman700 · 04-20-2012, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by summit101

sigh. WHAT IF WE COULD DECIDE? JUST LIKE THAT?

We can't. Why are you yelling at me?

Bigfan · 04-20-2012, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by summit101

these are only ideas! its up to you to decide what is true to you

So, if I believe it hard enough and make up enough bullshit evidence, it can magically become true?

Well that's pretty cool.

OT, sorry

summit101 · 04-20-2012, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigfan

So, if I believe it hard enough and make up enough bullshit evidence, it can magically become true?

Well that's pretty cool.

OT, sorry

you decide through research, and through evidence you discover for your self.

petereanima · 04-20-2012, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigfan

So, if I believe it hard enough and make up enough bullshit evidence, it can magically become true?

Well that's pretty cool.

How is religion formed?

Guitarman700 · 04-20-2012, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by petereanima

How is religion formed?

How religion get pregnant?

summit101 · 04-20-2012, 08:17 AM

if you search hard enough as i have you can find any answer

Bigfan · 04-20-2012, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by summit101

you decide through research, and through evidence you discover for your self.

Then why not actually show us your extensive research on the subject, showing us empirical evidence for this. Spewing wild hypotheticals and claiming them to be "true to you" is not science.

summit101 · 04-20-2012, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigfan

Then why not actually show us your extensive research on the subject, showing us empirical evidence for this. Spewing wild hypotheticals and claiming them to be "true to you" is not science.

because i **CANT** tell you what you should believe. and i physically cannot type the amount of information i have obtained through my own research.

in other words, i honestly cant "spoon feed you" the evidences like a baby. we all have to find it for our self or else we may not learn it the same way as by someone telling us.

edit: cant

Guitarman700 · 04-20-2012, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by summit101

if you search hard enough as i have you can find any answer

Let me shape reality.

Just a sec.

Hold on.

Okay. Here I go......

DAMMIT. I still don't have all the gear I want, and I'm not sexy(er) and richer.

Consider it refuted.

summit101 · 04-20-2012, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Guitarman700

Let me shape reality.

Just a sec.

Hold on.

Okay. Here I go......

DAMMIT. I still don't have all the gear I want, and I'm not sexy(er) and richer.

Consider it refuted.

you dont have all the gear now, because it takes time to get all the gear you want. as it does take time to change all matter and your physical environment. but physical matter is always changing. unless you could change matter instantly, it would appear before you in an instant. but we cant do that right now.

Greatoliver · 04-20-2012, 08:33 AM

So, Volumes!

I actually liked Hydroplaning, but I wasn't sure about the whole album when it came out.

summit101 · 04-20-2012, 08:34 AM

unless you guys want me to share a 4 part video each containing an hours worth of information?

Rook · 04-20-2012, 08:35 AM

Summit, I don't think you realise how many educated people there are on this site, a lot of whom are engineers who will know a lot about resonance. High frequency doesn't mean resonates a lot, it can just imply a higher energy level, energy depends on a few things.

Resonance implies something is excited by something else oscillating it. Microwaves emit a frequency the same as the resonant frequency as water (i.e. the frequency at which the water naturally oscillates). Small classical particles (with mass lol) oscillating is all the heat is. Water has a natural frequency, if you wobble it at that frequency, you efficiently 'excite' the particle, it vibrates more, it heats up.

Energy isn't a mystical magical thing.

Why did I write all this.

EDIT: Yeah, so Volumes then...

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04-20-2012, 08:33 AM	#73
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Rook Electrifying Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: London Posts: 7,557 Thanked: 109 Feedback Score: 18 reviews	Summit, I don't think you realise how many educated people there are on this site, a lot of whom are engineers who will know a lot about resonance. High frequency doesn't mean resonates a lot, it can just imply a higher energy level, energy depends on a few things. Resonance implies something is excited by something else oscillating it. Microwaves emit a frequency the same as the resonant frequency as water (i.e. the frequency at which the water naturally oscillates). Small classical particles (with mass lol) oscillating is all the heat is. Water has a natural frequency, if you wobble it at that frequency, you efficiently 'excite' the particle, it vibrates more, it heats up. Energy isn't a mystical magical thing. Why did I write all this. EDIT: Yeah, so Volumes then... Cyanide_Anima, TheHandOfStone, Greatoliver and 4 others like this. Formerly known as Fun111, don't be thrown off by the avatar!!!!!! My Soundcloud My project on Facebook: Rook

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04-20-2012, 07:50 AM	#52
summit101 SS.org Regular Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 228 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if i can be anymore clear. everything has energy, there-fore energy is able to interfere and react with other energy in some way or another. anything and everything is effected by energy. sound has energy - people have energy.

04-20-2012, 08:04 AM	#60
summit101 SS.org Regular Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 228 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	these are only ideas! its up to you to decide what is true to you and what you perceive to be reality.

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summit101 SS.org Regular Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 228 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if you search hard enough as i have you can find any answer

04-20-2012, 08:34 AM	#74
summit101 SS.org Regular Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 228 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	unless you guys want me to share a 4 part video each containing an hours worth of information?