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Unread 03-22-2012, 03:44 AM   #101
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Unread 03-22-2012, 04:53 AM   #102
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Kanye West something something Limp Bizkit sorry y'all but something something Meshuggah just released the heaviest, most crazy metal record of ALL TIME.
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To the bold part in particular - you'd be surprised... I'm not kidding either, I've met more than enough people who have been absolutely serious in statements like that to the point of yelling at me.

If you weren't serious (as seems to be the case), then my apologies for the overreaction.
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Unread 03-22-2012, 04:07 PM   #104
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Why doesn't limp biscuit Realize that are no longer relevant in the 2000's??
they Stopped being "cool" 10 years ago.

lol I like how limp biscuit is talking about making the most metal record ever, then does a collaborative track with lil wayne....
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Why doesn't limp biscuit Realize that are no longer relevant in the 2000's??
they Stopped being "cool" 10 years ago.

lol I like how limp biscuit is talking about making the most metal record ever, then does a collaborative track with lil wayne....
Relevant? Cool? This is metal we're talking about, who cares what's relevant or cool!!
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Unread 03-22-2012, 05:25 PM   #106
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They´re relevant enough if a thread about them on a forum for seven-string/internet metal nerds (like me and 99% of the people here) has already reached the 5-page limit.
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Why doesn't limp biscuit Realize that are no longer relevant in the 2000's??
they Stopped being "cool" 10 years ago.

lol I like how limp biscuit is talking about making the most metal record ever, then does a collaborative track with lil wayne....
Would you like to compare the album sales of Gold Cobra to the sales of some of the bands that you consider "relevant"?

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Hmmm, don't recall saying their the heaviest....By saying "Meshuggah, that is all" I am simply stating my opinion. And since it is so subjective, isn't your oppinion of them not being the heaviest as meaningless as mine lol.
The fact that he openly admits, in his post, that "heavy" is a nebulous term makes his opinion more meaningful than simply saying A is/isn't heavier than B.

An analogy would be an atheist arguing with a religious person only to have an actual open minded person come into the conversation to actually add something meaningful.

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I got curious and read the first post...then skipped to the last page. Limp Bizkit...where do I start. They just do not belong in the same category as metal in any way. I loved them when I was a teen. Then I grew up and matured into much much better music. This group will never grow up I guess 14 year olds will probably dig them though.
I honestly do not know how I used to love this band so much...so much in fact I was even in a Limp Bizkit cover band as a singer because I could sound like Fred Durst. At the time that was cool now that would be considered a curse,lol.
Strange how time changes things especially in the music world.

So...in 10 years will "Dagoba" or "Dimmu Borgir" be bands I would never admit to liking alot? Will I be saying stuff like "Dagoba...oh man that horrible metal tone and cheesy screams followed by black metal elements...not to mention the extremely cheesy riffs...my God how could I have ever liked this band I mean they are not much better than nsync", lol

Nah I doubt that but metal is definately becoming too popular with too many bands sounding the same. It is so hard to find great bands these days but sometimes I do get surprised.

Sorry about changing the subject what was this thread really about anyway?? Oh something along the lines of Limp Bizkit putting out the heaviest metal album? Yeah right on...
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I got curious and read the first post...then skipped to the last page. Limp Bizkit...where do I start. They just do not belong in the same category as metal in any way. I loved them when I was a teen. Then I grew up and matured into much much better music. This group will never grow up I guess 14 year olds will probably dig them though.
I honestly do not know how I used to love this band so much...so much in fact I was even in a Limp Bizkit cover band as a singer because I could sound like Fred Durst. At the time that was cool now that would be considered a curse,lol.
Strange how time changes things especially in the music world.

So...in 10 years will "Dagoba" or "Dimmu Borgir" be bands I would never admit to liking alot? Will I be saying stuff like "Dagoba...oh man that horrible metal tone and cheesy screams followed by black metal elements...not to mention the extremely cheesy riffs...my God how could I have ever liked this band I mean they are not much better than nsync", lol

Nah I doubt that but metal is definately becoming too popular with too many bands sounding the same. It is so hard to find great bands these days but sometimes I do get surprised.

Sorry about changing the subject what was this thread really about anyway?? Oh something along the lines of Limp Bizkit putting out the heaviest metal album? Yeah right on...
So many horrible metalhead stereotypes. Ugh

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Dear Fred,

only way you can be heavy is to eat ....tons of fries and other healthy stuff on daily basis. We've heard enough of your audible diarrhea so please move to some remote location and take all the crap you call heavy with you.

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And what comes to the heavy shit. All this "lets tune down & add some gain and strings to be cool and heavy" -stuff is retarded. People should listen Black Sabbath's Black Sabbath so they could realize what heavy means. 99.9% of metal songs won't pass that song in heavyness, no matter how much you try. And thats what it is nowadays, people are trying to be heavy -while failing miserably - because it is what cool kids do.
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only way you can be heavy is to eat ....tons of fries and other healthy stuff on daily basis. We've heard enough of your audible diarrhea so please move to some remote location and take all the crap you call heavy with you.

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And what comes to the heavy shit. All this "lets tune down & add some gain and strings to be cool and heavy" -stuff is retarded. People should listen Black Sabbath's Black Sabbath so they could realize what heavy means. 99.9% of metal songs won't pass that song in heavyness, no matter how much you try. And thats what it is nowadays, people are trying to be heavy -while failing miserably - because it is what cool kids do.

Amen to all that. You do a simple drop tune...learn a few one finger riff combos...find some gayish emo skinny chick looking with skinny jeans who screams like a woman having a baby...now you got yourself some badass new age metal!

I get depressed easily when it comes to music...I believe it was Frank Zappa (my Father educated me as a child by making me listen to Frank Zappa)...I saw an interview where he is asked what will happen to music in the future...he answered somewhere along the lines of "Music will go into a downward spiral and everyone will start sounding alike and most of it will be shit" not exact words but that is close.
I think we or at least I can say Frank Zappa was right...

BTW Frank Zappa is cool but I never liked his music it was always torture to my ears.
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I loved them when I was a teen. Then I grew up and matured into much much better music. This group will never grow up I guess 14 year olds will probably dig them though.
This is why the world needs bands like Limp Bizkit. They recruit metal heads that are usually into rap.

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So...in 10 years will "Dagoba" or "Dimmu Borgir" be bands I would never admit to liking alot? Will I be saying stuff like "Dagoba...oh man that horrible metal tone and cheesy screams followed by black metal elements...not to mention the extremely cheesy riffs...my God how could I have ever liked this band I mean they are not much better than nsync", lol
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BTW Frank Zappa is cool but I never liked his music it was always torture to my ears.
Different strokes for different folks. I could (and often do) listen to Zappa all day, but I'd have a hard time stomaching a few minutes with Dimmu.

That's why there will always be room for other types of music... even for bands like Limp.
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Different strokes for different folks. I could (and often do) listen to Zappa all day, but I'd have a hard time stomaching a few minutes with Dimmu.

That's why there will always be room for other types of music... even for bands like Limp.
Wait... So... you're saying music is... SUBJECTIVE???? And that just because someone doesn't like something, that doesn't mean it sucks????

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I get depressed easily when it comes to music...I believe it was Frank Zappa (my Father educated me as a child by making me listen to Frank Zappa)...I saw an interview where he is asked what will happen to music in the future...he answered somewhere along the lines of "Music will go into a downward spiral and everyone will start sounding alike and most of it will be shit" not exact words but that is close.
I think we or at least I can say Frank Zappa was right...
I can't say that at all actually. I think it's the biggest line of horse shit there is, in fact. There's tons of great music out there; there's just more music overall. So, there's more to wade through. It's the same thing with movies. I'm so sick of people complaining that there's no good movies and nothing but remakes and sequels. Bullshit! There's just thousands of movies released every year instead of a hundred or so.

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Honestly, I don't know the Zappa quote in question, but I do know a lot about Frank's perspective because I am a long time fan. If anything he was talking about how mainstream music continues to go for the lowest common denominator. You have to take into account that when Frank started playing rock back in the mid-60s, that there was a lot more variety on radio. Guys like him and Alice Cooper were getting airplay on stations side by side with the Grateful Dead and The Doors. Heck - Paul McCartney listed Zappa's Freak Out and The Beach Boy's Pet Sounds as the reason there is a Sgt. Pepper album. As Zappa's career progressed, many avenues of distributions (like radio and TV) were becoming more like the formats that we have today. Of course, there are exceptions to every rule. That said, its far more likely that Zappa was targeting crass consumerism in music, rather than music as a whole.

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But that doesn't take into account the dwindling importance of radio. It doesn't matter if there's variety on the radio, because people have numerous other options now for finding meaningful music. The landscape is entirely different. I wasn't so much calling Zappa's statement horseshit, because I realize he was referring to consumerism, and he was considering the landscape that existed at the time. What I was calling horseshit was that view still being spouted in modern times.

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I can't say that at all actually. I think it's the biggest line of horse shit there is, in fact. There's tons of great music out there; there's just more music overall. So, there's more to wade through. It's the same thing with movies. I'm so sick of people complaining that there's no good movies and nothing but remakes and sequels. Bullshit! There's just thousands of movies released every year instead of a hundred or so.

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I get depressed easily when it comes to music...I believe it was Frank Zappa (my Father educated me as a child by making me listen to Frank Zappa)...I saw an interview where he is asked what will happen to music in the future...he answered somewhere along the lines of "Music will go into a downward spiral and everyone will start sounding alike and most of it will be shit" not exact words but that is close.
I think we or at least I can say Frank Zappa was right...
This is so not true in so many ways, there is so much music that sounds nothing alike at all, go out and find bands, there's more great music out there now than ever there was before. Perhaps not as innovative as before, but that's because we've had like 6 decades of guitar music now and there are only 12 notes. The most innovative music is not guitar music any more, but that doesn't mean there's not loads of brilliant music out there, and in many many genres too.
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But that doesn't take into account the dwindling importance of radio. It doesn't matter if there's variety on the radio, because people have numerous other options now for finding meaningful music. The landscape is entirely different. I wasn't so much calling Zappa's statement horseshit, because I realize he was referring to consumerism, and he was considering the landscape that existed at the time. What I was calling horseshit was that view still being spouted in modern times.
Sorry. I thought you were calling Frank's statement horseshit, but I was trying to put things into context. Of course, Frank died before the Internet. So all there was back then was the radio, record shops, and live touring. We have come a long way since then. Frank would probably like it a lot more nowadays. Of course, he would have found it a lot harder to make a living though!
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