New Fear Factory tour and poster

[DLG]

Originally Posted by ShadowFactoryX

you seriously didnt like it that much?

man I love demanufacture as much as the next guy, listening to this it just sounds like I've heard it all before. everything sounds rehashed to me. the same exact riffs, except now with superior drummer samples and much weaker vocal hooks. nothing grabbed me at all.

[linchpin]

Originally Posted by ShadowFactoryX

dude, do you know the situation that caused that mess?
i dont think they'll ever get back together

Never say never about anything musical, I remember Dino saying going back to FF would be like going back to an ex that cheated on him... and look what happened... I believe it starts with communication... Burt met Dino in that fateful Ministry gig before really patching things up... all it take is one camp to open communication and for the other to listen but I'm not complaining here, I'm more than happy that a version of FF exists to keep me wanting to stay on this particular planet.

[Rick]

Originally Posted by linchpin

Anybody wanna bet Christian and Raymond will return for the next album? It's very possible... just a hunch

I'll take that bet that they don't.

Originally Posted by ShadowFactoryX

dude, do you know the situation that caused that mess?
i dont think they'll ever get back together

I do but I'm pretty sure I'm not allowed to talk about it.

[ShadowFactoryX]

Originally Posted by Rick

I do but I'm pretty sure I'm not allowed to talk about it.

haha why not?
it was definitely an "awkward" situation at best

[linchpin]

Originally Posted by Rick

I do but I'm pretty sure I'm not allowed to talk about it.

If you're referring to the whole "Christy fiasco" I thought it was already public.............. unless it's something else but I don't find private matters of musicians quite uninteresting... I'm not that kind of fan

[Rick]

Originally Posted by linchpin

If you're referring to the whole "Christy fiasco" I thought it was already public.............. unless it's something else but I don't find private matters of musicians quite uninteresting... I'm not that kind of fan

Yeah, that was it. I didn't know it was "public" already. Oh well.

[ShadowFactoryX]

haha ohh yeah its definitely public, it was before mechanize came out

[Sikthness]

Originally Posted by DLG

man I love demanufacture as much as the next guy, listening to this it just sounds like I've heard it all before. everything sounds rehashed to me. the same exact riffs, except now with superior drummer samples and much weaker vocal hooks. nothing grabbed me at all.

After listenin a few times, I gotta agree w/ this guy. Its not even that anything is particularly bad, cuz for most of the cd it sounds more like Demanufacture era FF than anything they've done in a while. Maybe I just haven't been in the right mood for it yet, and in a couple months I'll feel compelled to listen, but I doubt it.

[wizbit81]

saw them last week, utter turd sadly. I remember when they were good!! I even had a Demanufacture tie-dye top, it was awesome!!

[Wookieslayer]

The one thing this new album has made me do is go back and listen to all their older stuff (not that I don't already as they're in my top 5 bands of all time...).

The new album has some good parts and killer riffs but it I feel like it was lacking the cohesiveness of their classic records or even Mechanize. There are some bad ass riffs and some sweet hooks in the first half of the album but then in my opinion some of the other songs just don't grab me very much. Like mentioned above it sounds rehashed or just forced maybe, rushed? Not to mention the kick is too overtop IMO and dominates the mix, also maybe the high end... :p

The music is growing on me and I will probably love the songs live when they come back to LA this summer. I've heard the new performances are very tight with the new drummer and Matt on bass, so I'm stoked for that. Not to mention I have never seen FF with Dino, only twice with COW when they were promoting Transgression, and let me tell you, both times were killer. ESPECIALLY the second show I saw from the last tour they did with Decapitated, Hypocrisy, and Suffocation. Holy shit, I've probably mentioned this in other FF threads before, but it was one of the best shows of my life. I had only heard of Decapitated and they blew me away and Suffocation was one of the most crushing brutal bands I'd ever heard by then (November 2006, just finished high school). Not to mention, FF put on an amazing set! the crowd was chanting for an encore for 5 minutes but they never came... they opened with SOANM and even played songs like God Raped Souls and Self-Immolation! They played songs off Demanufacture, Obsolete, and even one or two off Digimortal! Plus Archetype and Transgression. I think they played 1.5 hours or more! I got out at 1:15 am and the damn bus line stopped running in Hollywood at this time and I had to pay $15 to get back to school by cab!


With all this said, I'll probably buy a shirt and wait to buy the CD when they roll through because I like to have real copies

Also; .... the haters, but DIGIMORTAL is one of my favorite records. Some killer songs and riffs, good hooks and bad assery. Sure call it nu-metal or whatever, but I think it fit the FF vibe and expanded on the Obsolete songs that had that.

I mean check out this interview...



I have never seen this before and it's funny / ironic to see how they were getting along or said they were during the recording process. They said it was the fastest they've ever done it and had so much material from all members of the band to make the songs. I miss that and now as much as I love the brains behind current FF (Burton & Dino), I hope that one day they can reconcile with Christian and Raymond; they don't have to reform with them but I just want closure b/w them bcuz I think they had something special 10-20 years ago...


Edit: and now I'm gassing for an Ibby 7 or COW gain :[

[ShadowFactoryX]

Originally Posted by Wookieslayer

The one thing this new album has made me do is go back and listen to all their older stuff (not that I don't already as they're in my top 5 bands of all time...).

The new album has some good parts and killer riffs but it I feel like it was lacking the cohesiveness of their classic records or even Mechanize. There are some bad ass riffs and some sweet hooks in the first half of the album but then in my opinion some of the other songs just don't grab me very much. Like mentioned above it sounds rehashed or just forced maybe, rushed? Not to mention the kick is too overtop IMO and dominates the mix, also maybe the high end... :p


Also; .... the haters, but DIGIMORTAL is one of my favorite records.

dude i've been doing the same, FF all week long

the kick is definitely wayy to loud in the mix, but i think you nailed it by saying its not cohesive, i mean i get the return to the industrial samples, which is cool, but idk if they spent too much time focusing on that over the actual songs

and digimortal definitely has some good songs. if linchpin isnt a classic ff track then idk what is

[Maggai]

Totally agree about the kickdrum. When it kicks (pun intended...) in after the intro to The industrialist with the kick drum pattern, it sounds way too clicky imo. I also think the hihat sounds very squishy and annoying.

I really miss that they were a "real" band. Haven't seen that Digimortal video in a while, and I miss those days. I really like Digimortal. The only song that sucks is Back the .... up. That should have been a b-side or something. The rest of the album is really solid and has several of my favorite FF tracks.

The Industrialist has some really good songs, and some ok songs. Nothing bad, but I think Mechanize was better.

[Rick]

I love(d) Digimortal, such a good album.

[ShadowFactoryX]

As much as I love the whole catalog from FF, SOANM is still hands down without a doubt my favorite.

I'd also like to point out that the production of that album, for 1992, was phenomenal.

[Wookieslayer]

Yeah the album is growing on me but I still think it lacks that cohesiveness of a thoroughly solid album; I think this may have to do with having no drummer for the writing / recording process. Sure the drums mimic the riffs most of the time but you have to admit how much an affect drums have played in FF, with and without Herrera.

And Back the .... up is awesome hahahaha!

[Shask]

I obviously love Digimortal as well

[Sebastian]

I also love Digimortal

[Chiba666]

Digimortal is a quality album. Saw FF for the first time on that tour, great show.

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

Gonna have to show my respect for Digimortal, too. Linchpin was the song that introduced me to the band and What Will Become was the first song I learned on a 7.

Plus, it shows what the first POD was capable of.

[linchpin]

Nice to see the love for Digimortal.... warms my circuit board

[Sebastian]

Originally Posted by linchpin

Nice to see the love for Digimortal.... warms my circuit board

I have to say my fav tracks from that album are Damaged and Dead Man Walking

[Maggai]

Byte block is my personal favorite. Something about that song is just soo good.

[MaxStatic]

To each their own. I'm LOVING the new album!

Reminds me of late 90's FF which was my fav times. Hints of Demanufature due to the drum tones, riffage ala Obsolete and Digimortal and Burton is hitting it up much in the same vien as Obsolete and Digimortal.

Though the feel is the same, I find that comforting as the material is all new so for me, it doesn't feel stale, forced, old, dated, or the other random critisims I've seen here. Just feels like a new album from a band I grew up with.

If it ain't your thing that's cool but I for one am really enjoying it and am glad that Dino is back and they haven't changed their formula.

[I Voyager]

Listened to some of the new album. It's good, but not nearly as "holy shit, this is ....ing awesome" as Mechanize is.

[TheSpaceforthis]

Mechanize sucks. Its the worst Fear Factory album by far.