Carach Angren is the greatest band out there right now - Page 2

Krullnar · 02-14-2012, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ShadyDavey

Everything you're mentioned, unless quantifiable and measurable (therefore comparable) IS subjective

As I said, I like C.A but I.V are more my thing....and I'll take Emperor over either.

I know. But sometimes something is so great, it transcends subjective opinion. This is one of those times.

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Originally Posted by Kenji20022

In all seriousness, there is no "best" or "better" in music. You're placing a band on a pedestal. You're going to get sick of them some day, and then another band will take their place. It's the natural thing that happens, so when you say that Carach Angren is the greatest band out there right now, your opinion is biased and obviously leaning toward something that's emotionally driving you at the moment.

They're not bad, but it's nothing special. I'm gonna give it another thorough listen, but it's just another Symphonic Black Metal band. That's all I'm hearing.

The rise of a hauntinnnnngAH

In the forrrm of a deeeeemonn vessellllllAH

*most awesome nautical BM part ever*

More listens are in order. Undeniable.

DecrepitBeing · 02-15-2012, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Krullnar

I know, it's amazing. The lyrics and delivery are peerless. You have to go all in with material like this, and they know they can back it up.

I really do think this is the best band in the world right now, they deserve credit for it.

There's a good interview with the band on youtube, they discuss what the band is about, and horror films are a big part of their sound. They pull it off- nobody else is doing this with this kind of balls and execution.

oh hell yeah, ill have to check that out for sure

Krullnar · 02-24-2012, 07:25 AM

Could a mod rename the thread title 'Carach Angren SUPERMEGATHREAD'

jsl2h90 · 02-24-2012, 09:34 AM

No way can you compare this band to the greatness of King Diamond.
Just my opinion.
I never could get into symphonic stuff. I prefer this:

Adam Of Angels · 02-24-2012, 10:10 AM

We've been talking about tastes being subjective, and that's true... but saying that this band is better than Emperor is a crime against humanity.

They're pretty good, but ultra cheesy. That's fun sometimes, though.

Krullnar · 02-24-2012, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam Of Angels

We've been talking about tastes being subjective, and that's true... but saying that this band is better than Emperor is a crime against humanity.

They're pretty good, but ultra cheesy. That's fun sometimes, though.

Emperor is the boring default namedrop you always get when discussing a symphonic BM band.

Who hasn't had a lifetime's worth of Emperor at this point, anyways.

jsl2h90, I was raised on Them and Conspiracy. Phantom Ship is better than Conspiracy. It's almost on the level of Them.

Adam Of Angels · 02-24-2012, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Krullnar

Emperor is the boring default namedrop you always get when discussing a symphonic BM band.

Who hasn't had a lifetime's worth of Emperor at this point, anyways.

Hmmmm...

Carach Angren
"Then there is this sound like a snarling hound.
I leave the room to look around.
It guides me to my daughter's room.
Her door is locked.
I am terrified of what I might find behind.
So quickly I climb the stairs to the old attic and find my double-barrelled shotgun.
Ammunition.
The weapon's loaded.
I need this nightmare to be done.
Done!"

VS

Emperor
"Where lights are dim and shades of black are grey,
from the moment of arrival we are led astray.
With nothing but a distant cry from deep within a soul,
a wordless voice to guide us on the way.
Desperately we name the voice and make the cries our own,
as if to deny the fact that we are all alone.
In solitude we mingle, disillusioned, we fall prey
where lights are dim and shades of black are grey."

Right.

Krullnar · 02-24-2012, 12:10 PM

Adam, that might be the weakest take I've seen on the internet.

Adam Of Angels · 02-24-2012, 12:14 PM

The weakest take was somebody comparing good lyrics to.... whatever the first set of words I posted is?

Anyway, I'm not here to argue or anything like that, bud. Carach is a cool band, but far from the best. I wouldn't want there to be a best, anyway.

Krullnar · 02-24-2012, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam Of Angels

The weakest take was somebody comparing good lyrics to.... whatever the first set of words I posted is?

Anyway, I'm not here to argue or anything like that, bud. Carach is a cool band, but far from the best. I wouldn't want there to be a best, anyway.

CA is telling a story, it's not supposed to be cool and poetic. I'm not sure how that could be overlooked. You took us into absurd territory, but that's alright, it keeps the supermegathread rolling

Adam Of Angels · 02-24-2012, 12:45 PM

Emperor was telling a story throughout "Prometheus" as well. Ihsahn just did it with eloquence. Hardly boring.

Krullnar · 02-24-2012, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam Of Angels

Emperor was telling a story throughout "Prometheus" as well. Ihsahn just did it with eloquence. Hardly boring.

I never picked up on that. But still, Emperor isn't an insightful comparison. And this is about what is going on now.

canuck brian · 02-24-2012, 01:23 PM

Normally I don't chime in on threads like this...but after seeing its the greatest band out there right now....i had to go listen and watch the vids. Super cheesy vids.

It's decent. I listened to about 6 tracks in total after seeing/hearing the two at the beginning of the thread. I really don't see the big deal with this band...they're decent sounding, good musicians and sound better than a lot of the black metal I've heard lately.

The mix on the second video is just bad though.

mgh · 02-24-2012, 02:47 PM

i think the thing is, they do something amazing, in writing essentially a musical but within the BM paradigm, which is GOOD and doesn't suck to high heaven. The lyrics are twee and stagey on paper but work well on disc. not too enthralled by the debut, but '...ship' is fantastic. it takes cojones of vast proprotions to either attempt this stuff...

mgh · 05-10-2012, 03:07 PM

the new album's out next week, peeps...;-)

Equivoke · 05-10-2012, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Krullnar

I know. But sometimes something is so great, it transcends subjective opinion. This is one of those times.

The rise of a hauntinnnnngAH

In the forrrm of a deeeeemonn vessellllllAH

*most awesome nautical BM part ever*

More listens are in order. Undeniable.

Mmm. Yeah you're either joking or an idiot.

GSingleton · 05-10-2012, 05:24 PM

eh...every concept album, at least to me, is held against Color by BTBAM....sorry sir, but this falls flat imo. : /

thedisciplineofearth · 10-17-2012, 04:26 AM

Carach Angren, Emperor, Peccatum, Obsidian Gate, Imperial Vengeance and Obtained Enslavement do a considerably better job of fusing black metal with orchestral music compared to Cradle of Filth and Dimmu Borgir (who ironically are able to afford using live orchestras in both the studio and live as of recently).

thedisciplineofearth · 10-17-2012, 04:30 AM

Sometimes I think Carach Angren are too flamboyant stylistically, but they are certainly miles ahead of other symphonic metal bands who use predictable, generic chord progressions, tonalities and textures.

renzoip · 10-17-2012, 11:09 AM

Hell yes! Finally a ss.org thread about this awesome band. I love their narrative style of writing, their arrangements, their dynamics, and the subjects of their concept albums. Great take on symphonic BM.

JamesM · 10-17-2012, 11:28 AM

I've said it and I'll say it again.

One of my all-time favorite bands. I just wish I had more material to listen to!

Spaceman_Spiff · 10-17-2012, 03:08 PM

Hmm...after checking out more tracks from them on youtube, I still think they sound like generic BM. Nothing against them and there were some interesting moments, especially in Lingering in an Imprint Haunting, but nothing special IMO.

mgh · 10-17-2012, 03:09 PM

awesome band, but yeah, you have to suspend disbelief in some ways and go with the concept/story...it's worth it!

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02-24-2012, 09:34 AM	#29
jsl2h90 Ibanez/Fractal Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 332 Thanked: 6 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	No way can you compare this band to the greatness of King Diamond. Just my opinion. I never could get into symphonic stuff. I prefer this: -In Maya's Grip, Illusion Transforms Verity... -Will sell every piece of gear I have for an 8-string Jackson soloist (JSL2H8?)

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Adam Of Angels Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mount Pleasant, PA Posts: 5,907 Thanked: 89 $Adam Of Angels is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Adam Of Angels is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Adam Of Angels is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Adam Of Angels is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Adam Of Angels is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Adam Of Angels is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Adam Of Angels is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 73 reviews	The weakest take was somebody comparing good lyrics to.... whatever the first set of words I posted is? Anyway, I'm not here to argue or anything like that, bud. Carach is a cool band, but far from the best. I wouldn't want there to be a best, anyway. mattofvengeance likes this.

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Adam Of Angels Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mount Pleasant, PA Posts: 5,907 Thanked: 89 $Adam Of Angels is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Adam Of Angels is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Adam Of Angels is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Adam Of Angels is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Adam Of Angels is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Adam Of Angels is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Adam Of Angels is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 73 reviews	Emperor was telling a story throughout "Prometheus" as well. Ihsahn just did it with eloquence. Hardly boring. thedisciplineofearth likes this.

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02-24-2012, 07:25 AM	#28
Krullnar SS.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 418 Thanked: 4 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Could a mod rename the thread title 'Carach Angren SUPERMEGATHREAD'

02-24-2012, 12:10 PM	#33
Krullnar SS.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 418 Thanked: 4 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Adam, that might be the weakest take I've seen on the internet.

02-24-2012, 01:23 PM	#38
canuck brian Bowes Guitars Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,612 Thanked: 42 Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Normally I don't chime in on threads like this...but after seeing its the greatest band out there right now....i had to go listen and watch the vids. Super cheesy vids. It's decent. I listened to about 6 tracks in total after seeing/hearing the two at the beginning of the thread. I really don't see the big deal with this band...they're decent sounding, good musicians and sound better than a lot of the black metal I've heard lately. The mix on the second video is just bad though. www.bowesguitars.com Bowes Guitars - Builds In Progress

02-24-2012, 02:47 PM	#39
mgh SS.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: London Posts: 456 Thanked: 6 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i think the thing is, they do something amazing, in writing essentially a musical but within the BM paradigm, which is GOOD and doesn't suck to high heaven. The lyrics are twee and stagey on paper but work well on disc. not too enthralled by the debut, but '...ship' is fantastic. it takes cojones of vast proprotions to either attempt this stuff... Krullnar likes this. http://www.myspace.com/memorareuk https://soundcloud.com/memorare

05-10-2012, 03:07 PM	#40
mgh SS.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: London Posts: 456 Thanked: 6 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the new album's out next week, peeps...;-) http://www.myspace.com/memorareuk https://soundcloud.com/memorare

05-10-2012, 05:24 PM	#42
GSingleton Sleep on, Fly on Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: United States Posts: 1,588 Thanked: 26 Feedback Score: 9 reviews	eh...every concept album, at least to me, is held against Color by BTBAM....sorry sir, but this falls flat imo. : / Spaceman_Spiff likes this. Music Facebook: www.facebook.com/lostindreaming Soundcloud: http://soundcloud.com/gsingleton Me:You could djent using a toothpick and aluminum foil. Michael T: Aluminum + Djent = Alumidjent Didn't Lace already do this....hmmmm

10-17-2012, 04:26 AM	#43
thedisciplineofearth ss.org Regular Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Auckland Posts: 2 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Carach Angren, Emperor, Peccatum, Obsidian Gate, Imperial Vengeance and Obtained Enslavement do a considerably better job of fusing black metal with orchestral music compared to Cradle of Filth and Dimmu Borgir (who ironically are able to afford using live orchestras in both the studio and live as of recently).

10-17-2012, 04:30 AM	#44
thedisciplineofearth ss.org Regular Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Auckland Posts: 2 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sometimes I think Carach Angren are too flamboyant stylistically, but they are certainly miles ahead of other symphonic metal bands who use predictable, generic chord progressions, tonalities and textures.

10-17-2012, 11:09 AM	#45
renzoip I Am the Table Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ihate, FL, US. Posts: 2,468 Thanked: 19 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hell yes! Finally a ss.org thread about this awesome band. I love their narrative style of writing, their arrangements, their dynamics, and the subjects of their concept albums. Great take on symphonic BM. DARK LEGACY - Progressive Power Metal from South FL!

10-17-2012, 11:28 AM	#46
JamesM The Armada Join Date: May 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 6,927 Thanked: 86 Feedback Score: 5 reviews	I've said it and I'll say it again. One of my all-time favorite bands. I just wish I had more material to listen to! Cloudyhead. Facebook//Twitter//Bandcamp Watch:1,2,3,4,5 Debut Album, Abstraction out now!

10-17-2012, 03:08 PM	#47
Spaceman_Spiff SS Contributor Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Akron, Ohio Posts: 850 Thanked: 16 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Hmm...after checking out more tracks from them on youtube, I still think they sound like generic BM. Nothing against them and there were some interesting moments, especially in Lingering in an Imprint Haunting, but nothing special IMO. "You took the best thing about natural finished guitar bodies and applied it to the neck. I'd compare it to dipping solid chocolate into chocolate mousse, having a lucid dream within a dream, receiving fellatio while having sex, producing energy while burning no fuel. You sir are a genius.'' - in-pursuit "Parker PM 10 trade?" - JackWilliamBellow

10-17-2012, 03:09 PM	#48
mgh SS.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: London Posts: 456 Thanked: 6 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	awesome band, but yeah, you have to suspend disbelief in some ways and go with the concept/story...it's worth it! http://www.myspace.com/memorareuk https://soundcloud.com/memorare

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