Reflux - Tech Metal Supergroup From The Past

-One- · 04-22-2011, 12:40 AM

So, an old, but GREAT, technical metalcore band I found, released on Prosthetic Records in 2004, they're called Reflux. They feature Tosin Abasi (Animals As Leaders/TRAM) on guitar, Evan Brewer (The Faceless/ex-Animosity) on bass, Ash Avildsen (Sumerian Records founder) on vocals, and Vinnie Vinh on drums. They were intending to release an album in 2007, but went on hiatus, and Tosin did AAL, Evan did Animosity, and Ash did Sumerian Records. They're an example of what I think AAL could be with a vocalist, at some points, and if you enjoy technical metalcore, you'll enjoy this.

Not gonna lie, I would not mind if Evan Brewer left The Faceless, and Animals as Leaders broke up if it meant a Reflux reunion.

ROAR · 04-22-2011, 12:43 AM

I would completely mind if those bands broke up for a Reflux reunion.

Animals As Leaders is by far superior to 99% of anything I have ever heard.
Reflux is cool and yea I listen to them, but if AAL broke up for this... Do not want.
Not to mention TRAM also kicks all kind of ass.

An Ode is awesome song though

neozeke · 04-22-2011, 01:02 AM

Hey thanks! I've been trying to find some of their songs to give them a listen. Oh and the bassist from Animosity? I'm in, srsly animosity so much win!

EDIT: Yeah, I like it, but I'd much rather have those groups stay together. This doesn't seem like Tosin playing to his full potential.

-One- · 04-22-2011, 01:06 AM

I dunno, he plays more Animals as Leaders sounding riffs throughout the album. The only limit on his playing on that album, as opposed to Animals as Leaders, is that he's playing a 7-string instead of an 8-string.

neozeke · 04-22-2011, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by -One-

I dunno, he plays more Animals as Leaders sounding riffs throughout the album. The only limit on his playing on that album, as opposed to Animals as Leaders, is that he's playing a 7-string instead of an 8-string.

Hmmm, I'm downloading from amazon as we speak. It reminds me of Misery Signals, except instead of quiet pasts, it's all shred.

-One- · 04-22-2011, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by neozeke

Hmmm, I'm downloading from amazon as we speak. It reminds me of Misery Signals, except instead of quiet pasts, it's all shred.

YES. I described it to a friend today as if Misery Signals and Animals As Leaders had glorious babies!

neozeke · 04-22-2011, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by -One-

YES. I described it to a friend today as if Misery Signals and Animals As Leaders had glorious babies!

Awesome! Misery Signals has to be one of the best (more modern I guess

) metalcore bands.

wannabguitarist · 04-22-2011, 01:51 AM

CAFO was actually suppossed to be a Reflux song

I love this band. Actually one of the first modern metal bands I got into back in high school through a random Myspace discovery

-One- · 04-22-2011, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by wannabguitarist

CAFO was actually suppossed to be a Reflux song

Yeah, when I first heard them, all the Youtubers were like, "Well this sounds nothing like Tosin's playing," and I was like, "Has anyone ever heard CAFO?!"

brutalwizard · 04-22-2011, 03:21 AM

my first metal(core) show was a reflux show, and some horrible band opened, i just remember seeing a black guy with a universe. had no idea it was tosin until i saw him with boo. and i had NO idea that Ash Avildsen was there vocalist until now weird.

SD83 · 04-22-2011, 03:31 AM

I know I might be rather alone with this opinion, but to me AAL always sounded like a perfect display of what is possible with 8-string guitars... more like a number of tech-demos than actual songs (as opposed to, for example, Jean Baudin's solo stuff). Impressive and maybe inspiring from a musicians point of view, but that's it. This, however, sounds like some cool songs to me

dbrozz · 04-22-2011, 03:40 AM

Breaking AAL up to reunite Reflux would be like devolving (de-evolving?) the human population back to monkeys IMO.

Xavier and Naviene are a much better contributions to Tosin's great mind.

CrossingTheEventHorizon · 04-22-2011, 04:06 AM

Although I loved Reflux many years ago, I must say that I enjoy Animals as leaders and the faceless much more. But don't get me wrong this album is still killer and makes me quite nostalgic.

shitsøn · 04-22-2011, 05:57 AM

i remember seeing them on their EU tour with darkest hour and beecher back in the days. didn't know them before and was stunned. everyone was paralyzed, watching tosin play.

S-O · 04-22-2011, 11:03 AM

Big reflux fan, nabbed their album for real cheap of the indiemerch a few years back I think. Killer stuff. If you compare it to AAL, it's kind of the diamond in the rough stage, this was before he went to Atlanta for music schoolin', IRRC. Great music!

Elijah · 04-22-2011, 11:08 AM

A Reflux reunion should never ever ever be the reason AAL breaks up.

technomancer · 04-22-2011, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Elijah

A Reflux reunion should never ever ever be the reason AAL breaks up.

Reflux was cool, but I much prefer the stuff Tosin is doing now

JamesM · 04-22-2011, 12:32 PM

I didn't like any of that.

cfrank · 04-22-2011, 02:05 PM

This is probably my favorite "metalcore" album.

@00:47. Though it has some highlights, i get the impression that most of the sweeps/solos weren't recorded as tight as they could be, maybe they wanted it to be a bit raw perhaps?

pineappleman · 04-22-2011, 02:54 PM

I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE this band. Discovered them around a year ago from the AAL Wikipedia page, I didn't even realize Tosin was in a band before AAL, and then I listened to the album and was like...

I know I'm in the minority but all in all I actually WAY prefer this band to AAL. I actually asked Tosin, when I met him when AAL opened for Dillinger, if he thought there would ever be a Reflux reunion, and he said no, it's completely in the past.

Ralyks · 04-22-2011, 04:34 PM

Reflux reminds me of AOJB-Killswitch Engage + Heavier AAL moments. And it totally works.

And apparently, I saw these guys open for Strapping Young Lad, Darkest Hour, and Misery Signals yeeeaaarrrsss ago.

shitsøn · 04-22-2011, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cfrank

i get the impression that most of the sweeps/solos weren't recorded as tight as they could be, maybe they wanted it to be a bit raw perhaps?

totally, that goes for a lot of the guitar work on that record. i guess there was some sort of intention behind it, we all know tosin can play spot on.

Harry · 04-22-2011, 07:22 PM

I admit I'd never actually ever gotten around to listening to Reflux before.
Damn, that's some pretty good stuff actually.
Not so sure about those vocals, but I think they could grow on me, as I love the rest of it.

randomshredder · 04-22-2011, 09:44 PM

I played a show with Reflux back in 03 ...I think Caliban and AILD headlined, can't really remember now. I knew when I saw Tosin in the back that he'd be a guitar icon someday. He only incorporated a handful of sweep arpeggio shapes at the time and I think was rocking a Digitech RP pedal (he used the looping function on there quite a bit).

randomshredder · 04-22-2011, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by shitsøn

totally, that goes for a lot of the guitar work on that record. i guess there was some sort of intention behind it, we all know tosin can play spot on.

Tosin was still developing his skills at that time...so what's on that record is probably what he could do at the time. I get the feeling he is a very fast learner, thus why he has progressed so much since then.

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04-22-2011, 12:40 AM	#1
-One- Not So Kool-Aid Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 798 Thanked: 11 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Reflux - Tech Metal Supergroup From The Past So, an old, but GREAT, technical metalcore band I found, released on Prosthetic Records in 2004, they're called Reflux. They feature Tosin Abasi (Animals As Leaders/TRAM) on guitar, Evan Brewer (The Faceless/ex-Animosity) on bass, Ash Avildsen (Sumerian Records founder) on vocals, and Vinnie Vinh on drums. They were intending to release an album in 2007, but went on hiatus, and Tosin did AAL, Evan did Animosity, and Ash did Sumerian Records. They're an example of what I think AAL could be with a vocalist, at some points, and if you enjoy technical metalcore, you'll enjoy this. Not gonna lie, I would not mind if Evan Brewer left The Faceless, and Animals as Leaders broke up if it meant a Reflux reunion. neozeke, SD83, pineappleman and 1 others like this. "I wonder if Kurt rolls his eyes everytime we come up with a new idea. 'Oh no. Not ss.org, again. NOW WHAT?'" - I_infect "For all we know is some super bass wizard the likes of which hasn't been seen since Gandalf invented the bass." - heavy7-665

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ROAR Oaf Tobar Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,804 Thanked: 15 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I would completely mind if those bands broke up for a Reflux reunion. Animals As Leaders is by far superior to 99% of anything I have ever heard. Reflux is cool and yea I listen to them, but if AAL broke up for this... Do not want. Not to mention TRAM also kicks all kind of ass. An Ode is awesome song though glassmoon0fo likes this.

04-22-2011, 01:06 AM	#4
-One- Not So Kool-Aid Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 798 Thanked: 11 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I dunno, he plays more Animals as Leaders sounding riffs throughout the album. The only limit on his playing on that album, as opposed to Animals as Leaders, is that he's playing a 7-string instead of an 8-string. "I wonder if Kurt rolls his eyes everytime we come up with a new idea. 'Oh no. Not ss.org, again. NOW WHAT?'" - I_infect "For all we know is some super bass wizard the likes of which hasn't been seen since Gandalf invented the bass." - heavy7-665

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wannabguitarist SS Contributor Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego/El Dorado Hills CA Posts: 4,197 Thanked: 52 Feedback Score: 9 reviews	CAFO was actually suppossed to be a Reflux song I love this band. Actually one of the first modern metal bands I got into back in high school through a random Myspace discovery Love Charity Esteem TKE "Oh, not as hard. But it's not the force with which you thrust, it's the angle in which you put your dick into the vagina. Guitar strings have G-spots"-failshredder

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04-22-2011, 01:02 AM	#3
neozeke ss.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 163 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hey thanks! I've been trying to find some of their songs to give them a listen. Oh and the bassist from Animosity? I'm in, srsly animosity so much win! EDIT: Yeah, I like it, but I'd much rather have those groups stay together. This doesn't seem like Tosin playing to his full potential.

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SD83 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Münster, Germany Posts: 556 Thanked: 5 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I know I might be rather alone with this opinion, but to me AAL always sounded like a perfect display of what is possible with 8-string guitars... more like a number of tech-demos than actual songs (as opposed to, for example, Jean Baudin's solo stuff). Impressive and maybe inspiring from a musicians point of view, but that's it. This, however, sounds like some cool songs to me No one should be protected from the effects of their own stupidity.

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dbrozz SS.org Regular Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: British Columbia Posts: 868 Thanked: 26 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Breaking AAL up to reunite Reflux would be like devolving (de-evolving?) the human population back to monkeys IMO. Xavier and Naviene are a much better contributions to Tosin's great mind.

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CrossingTheEventHorizon ss.org Regular Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 94 Thanked: 6 / 1 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Although I loved Reflux many years ago, I must say that I enjoy Animals as leaders and the faceless much more. But don't get me wrong this album is still killer and makes me quite nostalgic.

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S-O t(-.-t) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Dayton and Columbus, Ohio Posts: 2,293 Thanked: 18 Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Big reflux fan, nabbed their album for real cheap of the indiemerch a few years back I think. Killer stuff. If you compare it to AAL, it's kind of the diamond in the rough stage, this was before he went to Atlanta for music schoolin', IRRC. Great music! http://soundcloud.com/shaun-o

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Elijah SS.org Regular Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 958 Thanked: 12 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	A Reflux reunion should never ever ever be the reason AAL breaks up.

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cfrank SS.org Regular Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Porto, Portugal Posts: 370 Thanked: 0 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	This is probably my favorite "metalcore" album. @00:47. Though it has some highlights, i get the impression that most of the sweeps/solos weren't recorded as tight as they could be, maybe they wanted it to be a bit raw perhaps?

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pineappleman Why can I not sleep? Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 807 Thanked: 22 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE this band. Discovered them around a year ago from the AAL Wikipedia page, I didn't even realize Tosin was in a band before AAL, and then I listened to the album and was like... I know I'm in the minority but all in all I actually WAY prefer this band to AAL. I actually asked Tosin, when I met him when AAL opened for Dillinger, if he thought there would ever be a Reflux reunion, and he said no, it's completely in the past. soundcloud.com/the-radio-is-my-enemy

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Ralyks The One Who Knocks Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Dutchess County, NY Posts: 1,266 Thanked: 17 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Reflux reminds me of AOJB-Killswitch Engage + Heavier AAL moments. And it totally works. And apparently, I saw these guys open for Strapping Young Lad, Darkest Hour, and Misery Signals yeeeaaarrrsss ago.

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Harry Doom man of Doom. Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Greater Melbourne metropolitan area, Australia Posts: 8,247 Thanked: 59 $Harry is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Harry is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Harry is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Harry is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Harry is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Harry is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Harry is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I admit I'd never actually ever gotten around to listening to Reflux before. Damn, that's some pretty good stuff actually. Not so sure about those vocals, but I think they could grow on me, as I love the rest of it.

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randomshredder ss.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Bay Area, CA. Posts: 24 Thanked: 6 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I played a show with Reflux back in 03 ...I think Caliban and AILD headlined, can't really remember now. I knew when I saw Tosin in the back that he'd be a guitar icon someday. He only incorporated a handful of sweep arpeggio shapes at the time and I think was rocking a Digitech RP pedal (he used the looping function on there quite a bit).

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