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Unread 03-11-2011, 02:20 PM   #26
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Good bassists are hard to come by. Period.

My band of about three years now has had three. The first was a cool guy and all, just didn't fit in with the sound/style we were going for. The second couldn't even play bass and was more of a networker of sorts. He ended up picking a fight with KING, and then stole $300 from us. Our current bassist is still in highschool, but can actually play and keep up with the material .

In order for a band to work, there needs to be a lot of common ground and everyone has to be on the same page with everything. Otherwise, problems will arise and you won't get along with each other. My drummer is a whole-nother level of arrogant asshole, but that's just the way he is. We all give each other plenty of shit, but we all understand that nothing is actually meant.

It's a lot like a committed relationship, really... Except there's no awesome makeup sex.

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Unread 03-11-2011, 04:49 PM   #27
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One can only assume this bassist showed up to a metal band try-out wearing a B182 shirt......
which means he has either a righteously good sense of humor, or balls the size of a buffalo.

Or, he just likes what he likes. In any case i'd say showing up in that kind of shirt is grounds for immediate approval. Good for him being comfortable in what he likes, and actually knowing how to play his instrument. Let the elitist pricks cock fight over who has the most underground shirt collection, and take the dudes who can play, and that you can hang out with.

Hell, that's the most important part of it all. When i look around on stage i don't want to see a bunch of guys i detest, i want to look around and say ".... yea man" and be just as proud of my friends as i am of myself.
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Unread 03-11-2011, 05:31 PM   #28
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Yep that's been the case in just about all the bands I've been in. That's why I started my own band, now I get to be the ego maniacal douchebag. lol
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Unread 03-11-2011, 09:27 PM   #29
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Or, he just likes what he likes. In any case i'd say showing up in that kind of shirt is grounds for immediate approval. Good for him being comfortable in what he likes, and actually knowing how to play his instrument. Let the elitist pricks cock fight over who has the most underground shirt collection, and take the dudes who can play, and that you can hang out with.
This. Glad someone finally said it. Who gives a shit what bands a person likes as long as they're competent with their instrument, fit in with what you're trying to do and get along with you?
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Unread 03-11-2011, 10:21 PM   #30
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Yup. Anyone who has been in a band HAS had these problems. I remember when I used to be in a band and we couldn't write anything "Satanic" which wasn't even satanic, it was just suggestive. Ya feel me?

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Unread 03-12-2011, 12:59 AM   #31
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I knew this kid who could SHRED at a young age. He could alt pick like a pro, sweep fast, tap like a G, everything, and at like age 13 or 14. He wouldn't play anything that wasn't "Progressive Metal" (90% of which he claimed wasnt progressive) which to him meant he would only play music with stolen PTH riffs, and get PISSED when we accused him of stealing them. He's like "THESE ARE SO ORIGINAL". Then when he was over once he got to play with Dirk from Soilwork and is like "I dont even like Soilwork", and dismissed the whole situation. He's since gone to making these horrific recordings where he puts his Line 6 spider through an m-audio fast track and just kind of endlessly sweep picks out of time with 0 rhythm or flow. He's wasted any talent he had.

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Unread 03-12-2011, 04:26 PM   #32
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As stated before, you can always improve at your instrument if you work hard enough, but people dont change. If its not working out from day one then it probably wont long term either, you're best off getting a band of good friends together and not taking it too seriously. Ive been in plenty of bands that took themselves far too seroiusly, and met some complete douches along the way, but the band I enjoy the most is the side-project that I have with one of my best mates. His guitar playing has improved a lot since we started jamming so we can now play tech metal together, and we still have a great time every time we jam. Its supposed to fun, so keep it that way

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Basically every metal musician I've come across has a general problem whether you can work with it or not. Being "metal as ...." and "not caring about what anybody thinks" are not the attitudes you bring to the jam space. The latter definitely applies when I'm trying to teach you how to EQ an amp, and full bass full gain with a distortion pedal in front isn't "good tone".

Also, there is a fine line between being in a band and being a musician. I find I have troubles with singers, as they don't really "sing" and don't understand the time required to become proficient at an instrument. Now if you've spent half your life in conservatory with the grades to prove it, you can be a prick about certain things, but if you don't, keep your mouth shut
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Unread 03-13-2011, 09:11 PM   #34
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Yup, I've been out of that band. I got one of my really good friends and we've been jamming for a while now and we always have a good time Nd write some awesome stuff. Lesson learned.

Go now, that guitar's not gonna shred itself.
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I've only had one stuck up band member since I started playing music. It was SO long ago. I met this dude in summer school English class by accident and he's like "so let's start a black metal band, I know a drummer" so I said sure why not. Like four months later we actually started the band. The guy played bass and we were working on two songs then. We got to the next song and he kept playing really weaksauce quarter notes which sounded very dull because he could do better. So I say "can't you just follow the guitar's eighth note triplet feel?" And he said he doesn't want to because it's too much effort.

Me and the drummer gave him an ultimatum of 'start showing interest in this band and put effort into it or gtfo' and he gtfo'd. He said it was too much effort to practice bass because he was busy talking to his girlfriend and studying for school (that last one was a lie since he rarely studied anyways).

I still talked to him after we kicked him out but he didn't want to have to do much with me or the drummer after that. Eventually I had a heated msn fight with him over stupid shit how he should hate us because his friends think that we kicked him out wrongfully and how we're assholes and whatever, and then he started saying how we didn't kick him out but rather that he left, and all this other stupid shit, and it ended up with him never talking to me ever again, which started on New Year's day last last year. Talk about an inflated ego.

He went on to create a drone project which lasted like a day, which ended up producing a long ass song where it's just the same two notes for over five minutes and it was in MIDI on MySpace, and he kept saying how he was waiting for a band of his friends from a neighbouring city to move to our city so he can join them.

Basically it makes no sense.
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Unread 03-14-2011, 09:37 AM   #36
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I know people that would give people some 'shit'/banter over wearing a blink shirt, also cant picture those people wanting to be in a band with a blink fan, however this is more because their musical tastes will be different (which is a shocker! lol). For the most part though I think if a band is made up of people with very different influences the results can be amazing.

However your examples sound like people who are in that band ar so for the image and not making music. Too many people seem to think their opinion is always worth more than the next person along, people like this wont work in a band unless your happy doing everything THEY want to do.
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Unread 03-14-2011, 11:51 AM   #37
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I know people that would give people some 'shit'/banter over wearing a blink shirt, also cant picture those people wanting to be in a band with a blink fan, however this is more because their musical tastes will be different (which is a shocker! lol). For the most part though I think if a band is made up of people with very different influences the results can be amazing.

However your examples sound like people who are in that band ar so for the image and not making music. Too many people seem to think their opinion is always worth more than the next person along, people like this wont work in a band unless your happy doing everything THEY want to do.

I agree, bands with mixed influences are the most fun by far. You don't have any preconceptions of what the song will be when it is done, as you all have your own vision. The end product is typically immense. Metals bands seem to be more interested in 'hey we need people to achieve X sound', than lets have some fun and see what comes out though, actually and unfortunately most bands are.. period.

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Unread 03-14-2011, 12:03 PM   #38
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I brought in some riffs one day for some songs and he said they all sucked
if a band member ever said that to me about something i created i would beat his fookin eyes shut
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Unread 03-14-2011, 01:07 PM   #39
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Riffs are just riffs. Don't be mean if you don't think someone's riffs are no good. Better yet, pretend you like them. Be nice! How would you feel if someone said your riffs sucked?

If you think something sucks, that's your fault. Nothing sucks if you have the right attitude! If someone puts it out there, there must be some merit to it. No judging!

Blink 182 is a fine, fine rock band. I especially like the songs about parents not understanding your skateboard tricks at the mall.

See? That's not so hard, is it.
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Unread 03-14-2011, 01:42 PM   #40
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Instead of pointing the finger another way, I'm gonna turn it on myself and say I'm kind of a pain in the ass to work with.

The other guitar player in my band likes to start most of his phrases on the 'and' instead of on the 1. This drives me absolutely ....ing bonkers, and I let him know as much every time he does it.

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Unread 03-14-2011, 01:57 PM   #41
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It's pretty much just the guys who take themselves way too seriously and put on the diva attitude who are annoying. They don't just don't gel with anyone. I've never actually been in a real band, 'cause there isn't really many musicians who want to do anything fresh and different, because the current fad is metalcore and Avenged Sevenfold cover bands. But personally I think the moment the focus moves from the music onto the bands "image" and when certain individuals get their ego on seems to be the point where they lose all credibility as musicians. It's not about what t-shirt you're wearing.
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With bands, it really comes down to your ability to give a little and take a little.
My band are like brothers, we all get along really well and can hang out easily outside of practice, shows, etc. They do, however, have little 'ticks' that tend to annoy others but it's all about getting past them.
For instance, the other guitarist often subconsciously makes riffs easier between practices - if it's an string skipping alternate picking riff he'll replace two 16th notes with one 8th note. He doesn't do it intentionally, so it's forgiveable, but it's just painful when it comes up in the studio haha.
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Yeah I did, we kicked him out two songs into a gig, told him on the Mic in front of everyone there, and called on stage our replacement rhythm guitarist... Needless to say we out douche-bagged him.
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When auditioning (bass) for a metal band, I made the following joke when we took a break: Let's do a Nickelback cover! *got on the drums and played the world's most simple drum beat at about 45bpm.*
They couldn't take a Nickelback joke, so I didn't get the cut.
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