Attack Attack, attacks again...

[BigBaldIan]

I gave the video a fair shot and to be honest it was better than the first offering. I think Loomer and The Rev had hit the nail very much on the proverbial head, it's contrived and cliched to the extreme. Shoe-horning in dance beats into a song in that fashion strikes me as clutching at straws. It smacks of desperation and a band frantically trying to think of something, anything to make them stand out from the "scene".

[Loomer]

And trying exactly that to "Stand Out" is pretty stupid since Enter Shikari did that years (millenia in Scene Time, mind you) ago, and everyone and their dog has been doing it since

[NaYoN]

Is the whole mafia shtick a jab at Upon a Burning Body? I remember a while back they dissed Attack Attack, and they always wear "mafia attire" so that's what I thought initially.

I'd like this song if it didn't have the bad "metal" parts in it. Just the opening breakdown, some disco, some dubstep, some breakdown. But the verse and such is just shit.

[The Reverend]

Originally Posted by Loomer

And trying exactly that to "Stand Out" is pretty stupid since Enter Shikari did that years (millenia in Scene Time, mind you) ago, and everyone and their dog has been doing it since

Dude. Knock it off! .
That's the same band I bring up when it comes to other bands like Attack, Attack!.

People will start talking about us if we keep doing this .

[Loomer]

I'm using Psychic Mind Control on you Rev.











with mah penis

[BigBaldIan]

On a different note I've watched the Waltari video and yes it has a lot of genres blended together, however I'm trying to put my finger on how and why they work and Attack Attack doesn't. Is it the concept of artistic honesty, that indescribable something that seperates a real band from dare I say it poseurs? Showmanship is all very well and good, but when it becomes a focal point is that necessarily a good thing?

Just thinking out loud.

[Loomer]

Originally Posted by BigBaldIan

On a different note I've watched the Waltari video and yes it has a lot of genres blended together, however I'm trying to put my finger on how and why they work and Attack Attack doesn't. Is it the concept of artistic honesty, that indescribable something that seperates a real band from dare I say it poseurs? Showmanship is all very well and good, but when it becomes a focal point is that necessarily a good thing?

Just thinking out loud.

In the Waltari video, the electronic form an integral part of the song, rather than just additions that are tacked on for shits and giggles. Just something as simple as letting a distorted guitar carry over from a "dance" part to a "metal" part does WONDERS for coherence. Plus, the Waltari song (and video) seems to be intended as a peek into the mind of someone who's gone absolutely off the deep end, while the Attack Attack stuff is a peek into the mind of someone who believes tacking on a dubstep part for no apparent is the way to profit and underage, funny-haircut-and-ear-gauges poontang.

[BigBaldIan]

Originally Posted by Loomer

In the Waltari video, the electronic form an integral part of the song, rather than just additions that are tacked on for shits and giggles. Just something as simple as letting a distorted guitar carry over from a "dance" part to a "metal" part does WONDERS for coherence. Plus, the Waltari song (and video) seems to be intended as a peek into the mind of someone who's gone absolutely off the deep end, while the Attack Attack stuff is a peek into the mind of someone who believes tacking on a dubstep part for no apparent is the way to profit and underage, funny-haircut-and-ear-gauges poontang.

So we're looking at lots of little things that add up. Lack of cohesive song structure isn't damning in itself, but when combined with synchronised dance moves, strategically placed vocalist ego keg and moody "scene" video, tip the balance.

[Jan]

Originally Posted by BigBaldIan

So we're looking at lots of little things that add up. Lack of cohesive song structure isn't damning in itself, but when combined with synchronised dance moves, strategically placed vocalist ego keg and moody "scene" video, tip the balance.

You may have put your finger on what I have been subconciously aware of.
I mean, I don't HATE the ATTACK ATTACK song, I just feel it could be much better. It might be trying to look so tough, "metal" and badass and then switching to a dance part that makes them (at least to some extent) fail as opposed to Waltari... You know, kinda taking themselves too seriously.

[Loomer]

Hahaha, Ego Keg!

[noob_pwn]

i hated this band until i saw them live,
They were actually really really really tight and sounded huge, even though I'm not a fan of most of their music some bits just sounded gargantuan

$0.02

[NaYoN]

Originally Posted by noob_pwn

i hated this band until i saw them live,
They were actually really really really tight and sounded huge, even though I'm not a fan of most of their music some bits just sounded gargantuan

$0.02

I saw them live and they sucked hardcore... They did all the "scene" moves, the vocals sucked, their playing was awful, and the average age of their fanbase was 12... If you don't count the moms of the kids who accompanied them.
It was really awful.

[Joose]

I thought they were really tight when I saw 'em too.

[BigBaldIan]

Another example I feel of someone doing it well:



Starts out almost trancey, then procedes to skull.... when the other instruments kick in.

[DANiMALxMD]

Originally Posted by BigBaldIan

Another example I feel of someone doing it well:



Starts out almost trancey, then procedes to skull.... when the other instruments kick in.

new MPE album 2017. I hope these guys put something out soon. This thread is now about MPE.

[Randy]

I like music I can run in place to.

[GATA4]

I liked the song, especially the chorus. The dude that chimes in during the chorus has an amazing singing voice. I still can't help but feel awkward by the seeming "juxtaposition" of pop (essentially) and metal...it's a bit weird, but the song was good.

[Axel]

Originally Posted by Anton

What makes me laugh is that they just put a random "Can"(or whatever it is) in the middle there just for the vocalist to put his foot on it. I guess it's a standard, he just has to have somewhere to put his foot on, or else he just cant preform.

That rusty can was the only cool thing about the video. Hilarious how he switches up which leg to step on it too.

[Antimatter]

I thought the opening guitar riff and the one on the verse, they were definitely rockin'
But then they tacked on that poppy part that was just so out of place it's just wrong. I have the same opinion of these guys that's been talked about a lot here, they're putting things together, which is good, but they're doing it very very badly.

[Excalibur]

After you guys kept pointing out the barrel, I had to look at it, it's like those ....ing drums from donkey konga haha.

[LamaSabachthani]

hahahahaha what the hell was that that began at 3:00 minutes?! what an appalling creation

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That white axe looked shiny though, is that an ESP/LTD?

[AlexThorpe]

I actually kind of dug it. I thought the techno part was a little much, and as much as I do enjoy dubstep these days that wobble bass had no balls. I've been on a constant listening of Borgore and some Skrillex stuff though and that's just as filthy as dubstep can get in sections I think.

[baboisking]

Originally Posted by NaYoN

Is the whole mafia shtick a jab at Upon a Burning Body? I remember a while back they dissed Attack Attack, and they always wear "mafia attire" so that's what I thought initially.

I'd like this song if it didn't have the bad "metal" parts in it. Just the opening breakdown, some disco, some dubstep, some breakdown. But the verse and such is just shit.

[groph]

WHY DOES ALL THIS SHIT USE THE SAME GUITAR TONE.