Kayo Dot (avant-garde rock...ish)

ry_z · 01-18-2011, 12:38 PM

It took a long time for this band to 'click' for me, but since they did, I absolutely love them. Their stuff is just so...odd.

This one's probably my favorite Kayo Dot song (split into two parts):

I'm still working on getting into maudlin of the Well, but I think that'll take more time. Except for Part the Second, which I already love because it sounds like Kayo Dot.

DLG · 01-18-2011, 12:53 PM

haha I guess it depends. I started with motW, and metalheads will probably get into them easier, because it's doom metal at the core, albeit weird with lots of different influences and strange tangents. "My Fruit..." is a little harder to get into because of the sub-par production, but Bath/LYBM are masterpieces that I can literally listen to any day of the week, and about ten years after their release, I still love those albums to death.

I fell in love with Choirs as soon as I heard it when it came out, all the other ones took me a lot more time to digest, but it is very rewarding, because once you get into the albums, they really are all amazing and their own entities.

Choirs is easiest to get into because it flirts most with that post-rock vibe of starting off quiet and ending in a huge wave of awesomeness, the other ones don't really have any of that formula per se but can get just as epic.

One thing is for sure, there is no other band that sounds anything like them.

another great thing about them is that they choose different types of instrumentation to feature on each album. Sometimes it's more guitar heavy, other times its not, sometimes the violin is key, sometimes its woodwinds and brass instruments. On the last album, for example, there is hardly any, if any guitar at all, Toby is mostly playing bass.

Krullnar · 01-18-2011, 01:01 PM

A few motw songs still hold up. I thought he lost it with Kayo Dot, reeling it back in a little bit for Part the Second but apparently he has a problem with metal now. Part the Second is a bizarre anti-metal statement. The band didn't gain all those fans because it was all pretty and smart and avant garde. It was because they rocked.

DLG · 01-18-2011, 01:08 PM

maybe it's because he doesn't want to make metal music? As creative as metal bands can get, it has a restrictive form, if you want your band to be called a "metal band." There are zero limitations on where Kayo Dot choose to go, there are still some pretty metal moments.

As far as I know dude loves King Diamond still and bands like Esoteric.

This song is pretty ....ing metal imo.

I don't think he's trying to be an elitist avant dude, he studied in college under a pretty well-known avant composer, he's worked with John Zorn, even his pre-maudlin home record joke bands like Spoonion were pretty out-there. They sounded like a really weird version of Ween.

You make it sound like he's some old metal dude who abandoned the scene in order to .... intellectual hipster chicks on twitter.

PTP · 01-18-2011, 01:21 PM

I've been obsessed with this band lately.

Krullnar · 01-18-2011, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DLG

maybe it's because he doesn't want to make metal music? As creative as metal bands can get, it has a restrictive form You make it sound like he's some old metal dude who abandoned the scene in order to .... intellectual hipster chicks on twitter.

maudlin of the Well was in no way restricted by metal. I've heard quite a few avant garde artsy bands like Kayo Dot (and I'm not saying Kayo Dot is bad), but I've only heard one band like motw.

WarriorOfMetal · 01-18-2011, 10:50 PM

You should check out Greg Massi's current band Baliset, as well. Here's the intro track to their CD:

The Somberlain · 01-18-2011, 11:21 PM

I'm listening to this band quite a lot these days. I got into them via Ehnahre and Maudlin of the Well via Kayo Dot.

You have one of the best tastes on ss.org, Ry Z

ry_z · 01-19-2011, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by The Somberlain

You have one of the best tastes on ss.org, Ry Z

One of these days I'll make a T.M.Revolution thread and all my avant-cred will disappear.

Kr1zalid · 01-19-2011, 01:20 AM

I love this thread ry_z!!

shitsøn · 01-19-2011, 05:26 PM

thumbs up on this thread, i dig everything off 'choirs of the eye' and the split with bloody panda. seen them live two years back and it was mindblowing, really. also, mia matsumiya is the most beautiful person in the world, so that show was fulfilling in many ways, haha.

ArtDecade · 01-19-2011, 05:38 PM

Doom... Merzbow... Boredoms... Cynic... Sonic Youth... Ulver... Naked City...

Wow. I can hear a bit of everything tucked away in there, but its totally its own animal! I dig it.

Murdstone · 01-19-2011, 05:45 PM

I'm huge into MotW, and Kayo Dot's pretty gnarly as well.
My good friend is actually friends with Toby Driver, which is pretty

Bloody_Inferno · 01-19-2011, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ry_z

One of these days I'll make a T.M.Revolution thread and all my avant-cred will disappear.

Cosidering that the Secret Chiefs 3 thread inspired this... it may happen...

Still, Kayo Dot are sick.

ry_z · 01-19-2011, 08:31 PM

Here's some maudlin of the Well, inspired by the fact that I just got this album on vinyl.

The Somberlain · 01-19-2011, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ry_z

One of these days I'll make a T.M.Revolution thread and all my avant-cred will disappear.

AND I WILL BE YOUR SUCCESSOR!!!

Harry · 01-19-2011, 08:38 PM

Have been a fan for about 3 years now.
Love everything they've done, absolutely brilliant stuff and one of the most unique bands out there today

Kr1zalid · 01-19-2011, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harry

Have been a fan for about 3 years now.
Love everything they've done, absolutely brilliant stuff and one of the most unique bands out there today

And most important~~ They're original... I don't think they sound like any other bands at all...

Eptaceros · 01-20-2011, 04:45 PM

been listening to Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well for about 5-6 years now. started with Kayo Dot and didn't really get it. maudlin of the well made much more sense to me and then after some years kayo dot clicked. by far the most rewarding musical experience i've ever had.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krullnar

A few motw songs still hold up. I thought he lost it with Kayo Dot, reeling it back in a little bit for Part the Second but apparently he has a problem with metal now. Part the Second is a bizarre anti-metal statement.

this is an absurd claim. just because Part the Second doesn't have any parts that are strictly metal doesn't mean that he has anything against it. And to say that the entire album's message is to be anti-metal....what a load of shit. please, put some thought into what you write.

anyway, kayo dot most definitely has metal elements. if anything, a lot of the chaotic parts on their albums are more intense than any metal i've ever heard.

Opion · 01-20-2011, 06:10 PM

I got into this band / maudlin via some friends of mine that like very obscure, off-the-wall music. Very haunting sounds, sometimes heavenly, but it takes a special kind of person for any of it to click. Awesome band regardless, and a great conversation piece for someone who says they like "weird" music.

13point9 · 01-20-2011, 06:41 PM

Awesome, Ive been listening to alot of 'post-metal' as they call it lately this is some impressive stuff, Cheers Ry Z =)

ashek · 01-20-2011, 08:14 PM

never thought a thread about Kayo Dot would appear here.

A Pitcher Of A Summer is my fav!

power_lutin · 01-20-2011, 11:09 PM

They are awesome! Tartal lamb is worth checking out as well

One thing I'd like to add.. I've seen them 3 times live and I got to say that they are very impressive live musicians. They pull everything off perfectly and make it look effortless. And they play the music in a more dynamic way, which is really cool. I've attended lots of great shows before, but they are on another level in my opinion

Krullnar · 01-21-2011, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Eptaceros

been listening to Kayo Dot/maudlin of the Well for about 5-6 years now. started with Kayo Dot and didn't really get it. maudlin of the well made much more sense to me and then after some years kayo dot clicked. by far the most rewarding musical experience i've ever had.

this is an absurd claim. just because Part the Second doesn't have any parts that are strictly metal doesn't mean that he has anything against it. And to say that the entire album's message is to be anti-metal....what a load of shit. please, put some thought into what you write.

anyway, kayo dot most definitely has metal elements. if anything, a lot of the chaotic parts on their albums are more intense than any metal i've ever heard.

When they were brought back to do Part the Second, you would think that the core element of their sound would be a part of the songwriting. It was a Kayo Dot album with more traditional prog rock arrangements, and occasional nods to motw. The core purpose/element of their sound was discarded. He dropped the reason they have a following (which of course led to a motw fan getting Toby Driver back to make another motw album). That's a statement about metal to their fans because we already got the picture with Kayo Dot. Spinning it as if the intense chaotic parts on Part the Second and Kayo Dot's albums actually are metal because they are more intense than any metal you've ever heard... that's lame.

DLG · 01-21-2011, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krullnar

When they were brought back to do Part the Second, you would think that the core element of their sound would be a part of the songwriting. It was a Kayo Dot album with more traditional prog rock arrangements, and occasional nods to motw. The core purpose/element of their sound was discarded. He dropped the reason they have a following (which of course led to a motw fan getting Toby Driver back to make another motw album). That's a statement about metal to their fans because we already got the picture with Kayo Dot. Spinning it as if the intense chaotic parts on Part the Second and Kayo Dot's albums actually are metal because they are more intense than any metal you've ever heard... that's lame.

half of the stuff written for Choirs was written as motW and a lot of the music on the new motW is old material they had lying around from that transitional period as well. That is just the direction they were going in. If the album after bath/lybm was still called motW and not kayo Dot, it would have sounded the same regardless.

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01-18-2011, 12:38 PM	#1
ry_z Ikebana Noise Club Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,826 Thanked: 35 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Kayo Dot (avant-garde rock...ish) It took a long time for this band to 'click' for me, but since they did, I absolutely love them. Their stuff is just so...odd. This one's probably my favorite Kayo Dot song (split into two parts): I'm still working on getting into maudlin of the Well, but I think that'll take more time. Except for Part the Second, which I already love because it sounds like Kayo Dot. You bite at TVs, what do they taste like? Last.fm

01-18-2011, 01:21 PM	#5
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01-18-2011, 10:50 PM	#7
WarriorOfMetal The Dragonrider Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Boston, MA // Northern VA Posts: 4,174 Thanked: 89 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	You should check out Greg Massi's current band Baliset, as well. Here's the intro track to their CD: Recently Vacated Graves: True Zombie Metal from Washington, DC/Baltimore, MD My Guitar Center Microsite Profile

01-18-2011, 11:21 PM	#8
The Somberlain Hollow Man Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 643 Thanked: 11 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm listening to this band quite a lot these days. I got into them via Ehnahre and Maudlin of the Well via Kayo Dot. You have one of the best tastes on ss.org, Ry Z I think we ought always to entertain our opinions with some measure of doubt. I shouldn't wish people dogmatically to believe any philosophy, not even mine. -Bertrand Russell "The Somberlain is a wise man" -Randy

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01-18-2011, 12:53 PM	#2
DLG Banned Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Belgrade, Serbia Posts: 3,655 Thanked: 69 $DLG is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $DLG is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $DLG is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $DLG is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $DLG is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $DLG is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $DLG is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 0 reviews	haha I guess it depends. I started with motW, and metalheads will probably get into them easier, because it's doom metal at the core, albeit weird with lots of different influences and strange tangents. "My Fruit..." is a little harder to get into because of the sub-par production, but Bath/LYBM are masterpieces that I can literally listen to any day of the week, and about ten years after their release, I still love those albums to death. I fell in love with Choirs as soon as I heard it when it came out, all the other ones took me a lot more time to digest, but it is very rewarding, because once you get into the albums, they really are all amazing and their own entities. Choirs is easiest to get into because it flirts most with that post-rock vibe of starting off quiet and ending in a huge wave of awesomeness, the other ones don't really have any of that formula per se but can get just as epic. One thing is for sure, there is no other band that sounds anything like them. another great thing about them is that they choose different types of instrumentation to feature on each album. Sometimes it's more guitar heavy, other times its not, sometimes the violin is key, sometimes its woodwinds and brass instruments. On the last album, for example, there is hardly any, if any guitar at all, Toby is mostly playing bass.

01-18-2011, 01:01 PM	#3
Krullnar SS.org Regular Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 418 Thanked: 4 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	A few motw songs still hold up. I thought he lost it with Kayo Dot, reeling it back in a little bit for Part the Second but apparently he has a problem with metal now. Part the Second is a bizarre anti-metal statement. The band didn't gain all those fans because it was all pretty and smart and avant garde. It was because they rocked.

01-18-2011, 01:08 PM	#4
DLG Banned Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Belgrade, Serbia Posts: 3,655 Thanked: 69 $DLG is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $DLG is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $DLG is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $DLG is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $DLG is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $DLG is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $DLG is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 0 reviews	maybe it's because he doesn't want to make metal music? As creative as metal bands can get, it has a restrictive form, if you want your band to be called a "metal band." There are zero limitations on where Kayo Dot choose to go, there are still some pretty metal moments. As far as I know dude loves King Diamond still and bands like Esoteric. This song is pretty ....ing metal imo. I don't think he's trying to be an elitist avant dude, he studied in college under a pretty well-known avant composer, he's worked with John Zorn, even his pre-maudlin home record joke bands like Spoonion were pretty out-there. They sounded like a really weird version of Ween. You make it sound like he's some old metal dude who abandoned the scene in order to .... intellectual hipster chicks on twitter.

01-19-2011, 01:20 AM	#10
Kr1zalid Archrocker Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Malaysia Posts: 1,373 Thanked: 6 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I love this thread ry_z!! "Though, you have to realize that not everyone is a musician. In fact MOST people who do listen to music aren't." - MaxOfMetal "You've heard djent, this is thrunnnggg and thrennnggg" - ixlramp on Blut Aus Nord's 777 sects album God bless you all!! Cheers - Kr1zalid -

01-19-2011, 05:26 PM	#11
shitsøn (((Ω))) Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Berlin, DE/Tampa, FL Posts: 2,673 Thanked: 65 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thumbs up on this thread, i dig everything off 'choirs of the eye' and the split with bloody panda. seen them live two years back and it was mindblowing, really. also, mia matsumiya is the most beautiful person in the world, so that show was fulfilling in many ways, haha. Check: http://soundcloud.com/mouldermasters Extended Range Guitar Nerds Facebook

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ArtDecade ジャンヌ Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Twangsylvania Posts: 1,674 Thanked: 42 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Doom... Merzbow... Boredoms... Cynic... Sonic Youth... Ulver... Naked City... Wow. I can hear a bit of everything tucked away in there, but its totally its own animal! I dig it. Fine Dark Rum. Martinique Rum. Lime Juice. Orange Curaçao. Orgeat Syrup. Simple Syup.

01-19-2011, 05:45 PM	#13
Murdstone C34H47NO11 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: State College, PA Posts: 834 Thanked: 8 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm huge into MotW, and Kayo Dot's pretty gnarly as well. My good friend is actually friends with Toby Driver, which is pretty

01-19-2011, 08:31 PM	#15
ry_z Ikebana Noise Club Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,826 Thanked: 35 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Here's some maudlin of the Well, inspired by the fact that I just got this album on vinyl. You bite at TVs, what do they taste like? Last.fm

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Harry Doom man of Doom. Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Greater Melbourne metropolitan area, Australia Posts: 8,245 Thanked: 59 $Harry is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Harry is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Harry is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Harry is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Harry is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Harry is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $Harry is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Have been a fan for about 3 years now. Love everything they've done, absolutely brilliant stuff and one of the most unique bands out there today

01-20-2011, 06:10 PM	#20
Opion Sir Mattafer Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 521 Thanked: 5 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I got into this band / maudlin via some friends of mine that like very obscure, off-the-wall music. Very haunting sounds, sometimes heavenly, but it takes a special kind of person for any of it to click. Awesome band regardless, and a great conversation piece for someone who says they like "weird" music. My originals & mix test clips - slowly but surely growing: http://soundcloud.com/opion http://www.soundclick.com/members/de...member=opion59

01-20-2011, 06:41 PM	#21
13point9 Now with Less Hair! Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: London Posts: 1,874 Thanked: 66 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Awesome, Ive been listening to alot of 'post-metal' as they call it lately this is some impressive stuff, Cheers Ry Z =) "I won't be satisfied until somebody can whammy a whole piano." Pink Freud ".... that, I'd rather eat 20 pounds of steak and then prove how jacked I am by having angry sex with their mothers whilst curling 200 pounds and drinking ale." maliciousteve

01-20-2011, 08:14 PM	#22
ashek eh? Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Singapore Posts: 31 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	never thought a thread about Kayo Dot would appear here. A Pitcher Of A Summer is my fav! nothing is true. all is permitted.

01-20-2011, 11:09 PM	#23
power_lutin ss.org Regular Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Montréal Posts: 15 Thanked: 2 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	They are awesome! Tartal lamb is worth checking out as well One thing I'd like to add.. I've seen them 3 times live and I got to say that they are very impressive live musicians. They pull everything off perfectly and make it look effortless. And they play the music in a more dynamic way, which is really cool. I've attended lots of great shows before, but they are on another level in my opinion

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