Heavy Metal Soap Opera (The Mike Portnoy vs. Dream Theater Saga) - Page 5

BigPhi84 · 09-08-2010, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kmanick

I is old, I'm in my 40's

WOW, YOU'RE LIKE BON JOVI OLD!!!

No wonder you could afford that J.Custom!!!

LOL. j/k.

I sing barbershop music, so some of my buddies are in their 60s-80s. 40's is nothing. (BTW, I'm 26).

anthonyferguson · 09-08-2010, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BigPhi84

Oh, also, I never like the Mike Portnoy lyrics. They were always so elementary. Here's hoping that DT will let John Myung write some more lyrics for the band.

Oh, and also, the mixes that Portnoy produced never had enough bass guitar. Hopefully, John Myung can turn himself up again.

Aren't you forgetting? noone in DT actually knows who he is, they just think he's some guy following them around.

BigPhi84 · 09-08-2010, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tonywozere

Aren't you forgetting? noone in DT actually knows who he is, they just think he's some guy following them around.

I sympathize with my fellow Asian Mime.

Opeth666 · 09-08-2010, 11:42 PM

eh dream theater is dead now...why couldn't it be that horrible band metallica? let them die plleeasseeee

Variant · 09-08-2010, 11:43 PM

Is it wrong that at this point I'm more concerned that Dream Theater will now steal someone awesome from a somewhat lesser known band that are actually still writing good albums, than for the whole situation with Portnoy leaving Dream Theater to begin with?

a.k.a. You leave Gavin Harrison alone!!!

wannabguitarist · 09-08-2010, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Eptaceros

....ing LOL. the best part of Dream Theater just left...for avenged sevenfold.

Wait, did he really leave them for A7X? I couldn't find anything in there saying he was joining them

JP Universe · 09-08-2010, 11:47 PM

Pretty shocked here but highly anticipating the next album..... Hopefully this gives JP and JR even more influence in the band. Also excited to see who is gonna replace the amazing MP!

filipe200x · 09-08-2010, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by infinitycomplex

Yup. He's having more fun playing with Avenged Sevenfold (among other projects), which is understandable. Easier music is always a welcome change of pace after DECADES of...well...Dream Theater.

But, the realization will hit him that A7X will never be able, as a band, and a fixture in modern, popular rock music, to let him stretch his legs as one of the best, and most talented drummers and musicians in music.

On the other side of the story, DT won't be able to find another drummer like him. They'll find guys to cover for him live, and maybe even write some new shit with a different drummer (or 3 or 6), but it won't have the cohesion that can only be established by two decades of camaraderie.

I give it two years. Portnoy will do his thing, release a couple albums with a couple different bands, then find out he is getting bored.

Totally agree with you. A part of me died inside though

. I'm a huge dream theater fan, got all their cd's and dvd's. I hope what you said happens.

Opeth666 · 09-08-2010, 11:51 PM

hmm maybe I should go to the A7x show thats here in corpus this weekend and actually smack the guy and tell him to get back in DT...NOW

filipe200x · 09-08-2010, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Origin

...I think I just felt my heart break for the first time in a few years.

I really hope he ends up going back after stretching his legs, that band is the ....in world to me, as I'm sure it is to many others.

May the lord of metal hear you my brother.

goherpsNderp · 09-08-2010, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Eptaceros

....ing LOL. the best part of Dream Theater just left...for avenged sevenfold.

(PLEASE DON'T CURBSTOMP ME) this is how i felt when chris pennie left dillinger escape plan for coheed and cambria.

filipe200x · 09-08-2010, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Opeth666

hmm maybe I should go to the A7x show thats here in corpus this weekend and actually smack the guy and tell him to get back in DT...NOW

It wasn't totally his fault. He just wanted a break, but the other guys didn't agreed, they wanted him now or not anymore. I understand they need the money for a living, but they can't possibly think DT will be the same without MP.
If ruddes or labrie had left the band could still go on, but portnoy, petrucci and myung are irreplaceable.

filipe200x · 09-09-2010, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JP Universe

Pretty shocked here but highly anticipating the next album..... Hopefully this gives JP and JR even more influence in the band. Also excited to see who is gonna replace the amazing MP!

It'll definately be a keyboard/guitar driven record, i bet portnoy was the main head behind the production of the album (even with petrucci co-producing).

filipe200x · 09-09-2010, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by kmanick

I is old, I'm in my 40's

you're not old, 40's is the new 20's (or at least that's what i'll say when i get there, hehehe =P ).

Thaeon · 09-09-2010, 01:02 AM

Portnoy's always come across as an egotistical controlling freak to me. It was his direction that pushed them further and further into metal, which is only a part of who they are. He's a great drummer, but there are guys out there that are SO much better and far more creative than he is. I'd honestly like to see them pull in Tomas Hawke or Danny Carry. Two drummers who can keep up and possibly add something new to the band. Hell, I'd even settle for Jojo Meyer. He's totally the wrong guy for the job but it would be an interesting listen even if I'm laughing through the whole album. DT has been a HUGE influence on me as a player, but dear god Portnoy is tired...

(awaits flames)

MarkB · 09-09-2010, 01:04 AM

...., I can't believe it's true.

Portney was like half the band, without him alot of everything is going to fall onto Petrucci's shoulders. Who knows what the next album will sound like now.

mrlespaulman · 09-09-2010, 01:13 AM

WHAAAAAAT

I am currently functioning in a similar manner as a mother would upon receiving word of her only son's death. The present reality has yet to set in, and I am residing in my own false reality where Dream Theater is still Petrucci, Myung, and Portnoy.

Please refrain from waking me.

Nazca · 09-09-2010, 01:46 AM

This makes me a sad panda.

beneharris · 09-09-2010, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkB

...., I can't believe it's true.

Portney was like half the band, without him alot of everything is going to fall onto Petrucci's shoulders. Who knows what the next album will sound like now.

well with the exception of maybe labrie, (who i still concede is a darn good musician as well and knows his stuff) everybody in the band are AMAZING musicians and players, and its not like MP was the only one who knew what he was doing.

signalgrey · 09-09-2010, 02:13 AM

im not even DT fan....at ALL. BUT i cant imagine that this is permanent.

drmosh · 09-09-2010, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by goherpsNderp

(PLEASE DON'T CURBSTOMP ME) this is how i felt when chris pennie left dillinger escape plan for coheed and cambria.

remember how much better they are live now though, and their new drummer is insane.

I think MP leaving DT is a breath of fresh air. If his heart isn't into it, what's the point? They can find an unknown, amazing drummer and release a new album and all will be forgotten.

shotgunn · 09-09-2010, 02:42 AM

Dude you just totally brightened my day, for a second...

To quote the wise Bart Simpson...

"I never this could be possible, but this sucks AND blows at the same time."

CRAP!!!! AND TODAY IS MY BIRTHDAY!!!!! THIS IS A CRAPPY B-DAY!!!!

shotgunn

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Originally Posted by TreKita

in other news, black is white, up is down, God is Satan, and Cannibal corpse released an album of smooth Jazz.

shotgunn · 09-09-2010, 03:00 AM

Labrie has done a fine job taking care of himself. You must consider that his instrument is IN is body. One that simply will not last forever. The other 4 guys can tune up/replace their instruments, not a vocalist. Their will always be a decline in performance. James' voice has aged quite nicely IMO.

shotgunn

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Originally Posted by scherzo1928

Dont get me wrong, i really like Labrie's singing, and actually I have all his solo albums, It´s just that... sometimes he can be waaay off. In the 3 shows i saw them, i didnt see Myung, Portnoy, Rudess or Petrucci miss a single note... But on one of the shows Labrie's voice was horrible.

EtherealEntity · 09-09-2010, 03:28 AM

Haven't read the whole thread..

What I'm most surprised by is the fact that this doesn't shock or upset me much...Very surprised.
I can kinda see exactly where he is coming from and it's made me realise that I've felt for a while now that DT are more than burning out.
It will be interesting to see what comes from this - hopefully they will change direction as I'm not so into where they've been going recently.

Disco Volante · 09-09-2010, 03:41 AM

Man I stop reading the JP & SS forums for 1 day and MP leaves DT. Unbelievable.

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09-09-2010, 01:13 AM	#117
mrlespaulman SS.org Regular Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 205 Thanked: 6 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	WHAAAAAAT I am currently functioning in a similar manner as a mother would upon receiving word of her only son's death. The present reality has yet to set in, and I am residing in my own false reality where Dream Theater is still Petrucci, Myung, and Portnoy. Please refrain from waking me. Like prog-rock with real singing and catchy riffs? Check out Eden Regained! http://www.facebook.com/edenregained http://www.youtube.com/user/edenregained

09-09-2010, 02:13 AM	#120
signalgrey Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 3,536 Thanked: 26 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	im not even DT fan....at ALL. BUT i cant imagine that this is permanent. http://www.purevolume.com/citizenlusca http://www.citizenlusca.com

09-09-2010, 03:41 AM	#125
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09-08-2010, 11:42 PM	#104
Opeth666 SS.org Regular Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Corpus Christi, Texas Posts: 844 Thanked: 11 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	eh dream theater is dead now...why couldn't it be that horrible band metallica? let them die plleeasseeee

09-08-2010, 11:43 PM	#105
Variant Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: All-white-tukee, Arizona Posts: 5,657 Thanked: 82 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Is it wrong that at this point I'm more concerned that Dream Theater will now steal someone awesome from a somewhat lesser known band that are actually still writing good albums, than for the whole situation with Portnoy leaving Dream Theater to begin with? a.k.a. You leave Gavin Harrison alone!!!

09-08-2010, 11:47 PM	#107
JP Universe Giggity Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Down Under Posts: 1,818 Thanked: 56 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Pretty shocked here but highly anticipating the next album..... Hopefully this gives JP and JR even more influence in the band. Also excited to see who is gonna replace the amazing MP!

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Opeth666 SS.org Regular Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Corpus Christi, Texas Posts: 844 Thanked: 11 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	hmm maybe I should go to the A7x show thats here in corpus this weekend and actually smack the guy and tell him to get back in DT...NOW

09-09-2010, 01:02 AM	#115
Thaeon SS.org Regular Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 343 Thanked: 11 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Portnoy's always come across as an egotistical controlling freak to me. It was his direction that pushed them further and further into metal, which is only a part of who they are. He's a great drummer, but there are guys out there that are SO much better and far more creative than he is. I'd honestly like to see them pull in Tomas Hawke or Danny Carry. Two drummers who can keep up and possibly add something new to the band. Hell, I'd even settle for Jojo Meyer. He's totally the wrong guy for the job but it would be an interesting listen even if I'm laughing through the whole album. DT has been a HUGE influence on me as a player, but dear god Portnoy is tired... (awaits flames)

09-09-2010, 01:04 AM	#116
MarkB ss.org Regular Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Upland CA Posts: 103 Thanked: 4 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	...., I can't believe it's true. Portney was like half the band, without him alot of everything is going to fall onto Petrucci's shoulders. Who knows what the next album will sound like now.

09-09-2010, 01:46 AM	#118
Nazca SS.org Regular Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cheshire Posts: 204 Thanked: 6 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	This makes me a sad panda.

09-09-2010, 03:28 AM	#124
EtherealEntity T=UWx(2xLxF)^2/386.4 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Southend-on-Sea, Essex, U.K Posts: 8,289 Thanked: 75 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Haven't read the whole thread.. What I'm most surprised by is the fact that this doesn't shock or upset me much...Very surprised. I can kinda see exactly where he is coming from and it's made me realise that I've felt for a while now that DT are more than burning out. It will be interesting to see what comes from this - hopefully they will change direction as I'm not so into where they've been going recently.