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Unread 09-24-2011, 11:55 AM   #1651
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Great to finally hear the song in good quality, it sounds great! The mix/production is fantastic, can't wait for the album. It's just a shame they aren't shipping the deluxe bundle internationally, so no poster for anyone outside the US.

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Unread 09-24-2011, 04:29 PM   #1652
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That mix is so much better than those damn previews! Holy hell, I am now super excited for this!
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Unread 09-25-2011, 05:48 AM   #1654
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Unread 09-25-2011, 05:54 AM   #1655
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Unread 09-25-2011, 02:12 PM   #1657
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New song - Amazing, LOVE the mix sounds HUGE, this is definitely gonna be in my top 3 albums this year, can't ....ing wait!

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Unread 09-25-2011, 02:29 PM   #1658
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Saw them last night supporting BTB&M. Mind = Blown; The Strandberg 8 sounded amazing. Had a chat with Tosin afterwards too, nice chap.

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The show in Glasgow was really good last night. I think Tosin must be picking up some heat from Ibanez, as he seems to be mostly back to using the RG and the Strandberg only saw 2 or 3 songs. What a shame.

Tosin was really nice. I spoke to him briefly about my book and the prospect of him and Javier being involved in it. Seemed like he may be interested. Sweeeet! He also mentioned that he is planning to write a book of his own, pertaining to 8 string. Didn't have a chance to chat details, though.
That gig was awesome, except leaving mid set of BtBAM (White Walls) sucked heavily. I got to shake Javier's hand though. AAL sounded tight as .... and great for sure. The gig however was very much watching the guys rip it up and chilling.
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Unread 09-25-2011, 06:55 PM   #1660
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Weightless (Animals as Leaders album) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Track lengths and album length available..... hmmm...

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Track lengths and album length available..... hmmm...
If I'm not mistaken, this information was available on amazon when the previews were still up.
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If I'm not mistaken, this information was available on amazon when the previews were still up.
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Unread 09-25-2011, 10:06 PM   #1663
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Am I hearing a bass in there somewhere or am I being deceived by the lower register of the 8 string? And did anyone else notice the FX on the ending solo where it went from sounding like a guitar to a keyboard? I get the feeling the new album is going to incorporate Tosin's electronica influences quite a bit more than the first one did.

I don't know anything about mixing or production value but to me it sounds a bit more sterile than the first album. Good to see they're not putting the chugga-chugga on the back burner either. It's nice to be able to clearly hear Javier's rhythm parts underneath everything after watching this song live so many times on youtube with crappy audio.

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Unread 09-27-2011, 06:00 AM   #1666
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Am I hearing a bass in there somewhere or am I being deceived by the lower register of the 8 string? And did anyone else notice the FX on the ending solo where it went from sounding like a guitar to a keyboard? I get the feeling the new album is going to incorporate Tosin's electronica influences quite a bit more than the first one did.

I don't know anything about mixing or production value but to me it sounds a bit more sterile than the first album. Good to see they're not putting the chugga-chugga on the back burner either. It's nice to be able to clearly hear Javier's rhythm parts underneath everything after watching this song live so many times on youtube with crappy audio.
Ofcourse they used bass on the album. The mix would sound shit othervice. (Keep in mind that 8 string guitar is still one octave higher than bass)

E: Now you've mentioned bass, I've gotta say that the low-end on the mix sounds awesome. Turning my subwoofer off almost made me shed a tear.
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(Keep in mind that 8 string guitar is still one octave higher than bass)
Mhh I dont think so.
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Unread 09-27-2011, 08:27 AM   #1668
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Mhh I dont think so.
+1. a regular 4 string bass and 8 string guitar in drop E are the same octave, but the bass definately fills out certain frequencies a lot better. Meshuggah's bassist and guitarists play in the same octave pretty much constantly, but if you ever listen to a track without the bass, you can really tell the difference. matter of fact, most people say that they cant hear the bass on a meshuggah track, i say that's about 65% of what they're hearing . the AAL track isnt quite that bass-heavy, but you get my drift.
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Ofcourse they used bass on the album. The mix would sound shit othervice. (Keep in mind that 8 string guitar is still one octave higher than bass)

E: Now you've mentioned bass, I've gotta say that the low-end on the mix sounds awesome. Turning my subwoofer off almost made me shed a tear.
In an interview with the Music Zoo on youtube they mention they used a downtuned 6 string effect for bass on the first album if I'm remembering correctly. And if what you're saying is true then who played bass? (I'm assuming either Tosin or Javier but you never know). I always wondered what they'd sound like with a fretless Sean Malone-style bassist.

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+1. a regular 4 string bass and 8 string guitar in drop E are the same octave, but the bass definately fills out certain frequencies a lot better. Meshuggah's bassist and guitarists play in the same octave pretty much constantly, but if you ever listen to a track without the bass, you can really tell the difference. matter of fact, most people say that they cant hear the bass on a meshuggah track, i say that's about 65% of what they're hearing . the AAL track isnt quite that bass-heavy, but you get my drift.
Ah yea right, if you play like meshuggah then yes, but I thought people actually tune their basses lower than the usual 5-string B and to me the AAL mix sounds somewhat like that. I'm not sure if they go down to F, that'd be freaking low.

And yea, guitars are built so that their high overtones are emphasized where basses are built from bass heavy materials, which in turn emphasize the lower overtones.

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They pitched down a guitar (digitally IIRC) one octave to get the sound. I guess they're using a real bass this time as they are running on a higher budget. And yea, Tosin played the bass for the first album so why not for this as well? It's just a 'ghost guitar' anyway.

E: I just tried to separate the center channel from the rest of the mix and I really can't hear a solid bass anywhere. My subwoofer is just rumbling. Either they have cut all the highs out from the bass or then I don't know. This is getting interesting.
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Unread 09-27-2011, 12:31 PM   #1671
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Bass guitar is definitely an octave below 8 string, else a Fender bass 6 would be in the same register as a bass guitar which, with 30" scale and an .084 gauge 6th string, it is not.


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I don't know anything about mixing or production value but to me it sounds a bit more sterile than the first album

I agree; the first album had a much more musty, anthropomorphic sound. (see also "using non sound-related adjectives to describe sound")
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Bass guitar is definitely an octave below 8 string, else a Fender bass 6 would be in the same register as a bass guitar which, with 30" scale and an .084 gauge 6th string, it is not.
A Fender Bass VI is definitely the same range as a bass guitar: the octave below six-string standard guitar tuning. A 8-string dropped-E is the same note as a bass guitar standard-tuning low string.

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A Fender Bass VI is definitely the same range as a bass guitar: the octave below six-string standard guitar tuning. A 8-string dropped-E is the same note as a bass guitar standard-tuning low string.


And as far as I know, most 8 string music is recorded with bass in the same octave, Meshuggah style.
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