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Unread 11-10-2010, 03:43 AM   #851
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YES SIR. repped

The new album is GOING to be different, that's a given. I personally dont care if the drums are sampled, or navene decides to blood-fart into a compression mic. AAL has already put out what i consider to be the most complete and fulfilling album in recent metal history, and when you hit the mark that dead-on, the only thing you can really do is go a different way. take, for instance, smashing pumpkins' Mellencollie double disc (for those of you that like 90's alt), it was GREAT, organic and deeply colorful. the only thing they could do after an album that great was to go with a completely drum-tracked, dark and cold effort like Adore, because if it was anything like the previous album, people would say "they fell short" or some bull.... like that. I love that music moves people to such passion, but it gets old when people criticize a TRUE artist's development. no self-respecting mucisian writes to satisfy an audience anyway.
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Unread 11-10-2010, 08:10 AM   #852
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So anyone know what drums, shell sizes Navine uses?
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Unread 11-11-2010, 02:58 PM   #853
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Animals as leaders CAFO



.... yes

Sorry if this is a repost, I couldn't find anything.
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Unread 11-12-2010, 06:35 AM   #854
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watch it at 720 px

I want to get a vending machine, with fun sized candy bars, and the glass in front is a magnifying glass. You'll be mad, but it will be too late.
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Unread 11-12-2010, 07:12 AM   #855
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The video has been posted three times. We all love Animals as Leaders and Tosin, but we don't need to post it three times in two pages.

The video ....ing rules, though. The creature is actually just my ...... No big deal.

Tosin is easily the snappiest dresser in music. No one looks that good. Why does he have to taunt me so? His flawless tapping blows my mind. He has such perfect execution and seems to do it so effortlessly.
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Unread 11-12-2010, 07:19 AM   #856
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I was actually looking for the high quality version of the video so the last post with the video was pretty useful tbh...
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Unread 11-12-2010, 07:23 AM   #857
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Yeah, I noticed it was the high definition version, but Kavnar said he couldn't find the video. He couldn't have looked very hard.

I'm not trying to make a big deal or anything, I'm just being "that guy".
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Unread 11-12-2010, 10:48 AM   #858
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Kavnar didn't see this thread and made a new one that was moved over in this thread.
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Kavnar didn't see this thread and made a new one that was moved over in this thread.
WELL THEN.

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Unread 11-12-2010, 12:04 PM   #860
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Slightly offtopic, but for what it's worth check out prosthetic records youtube channel, they have a lot of cool videos besides Cafo on

. I actually liked the video, exactly that futuristic vibe I was hoping they would go for.

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Wow. That video was awesome. Although some of the animal shots got tedious after a while.

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The video is indeed awesome......but it makes me hunger for more instructional material from Tosin......a great big DVD full of odd meter, tapping, sweeping and all the other stuff we all admire him for.

In the meantime - I'll listen to the album for the second time today and point out that currently this has surpassed the amount of times I've listened to Passion and Warfare since it's release

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.....and then all of a sudden he drops the musical equivilant of a steaming turd right in our laps - ESP Griffyn
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Unread 11-12-2010, 01:55 PM   #863
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Just watched the video for 1st time. Very awesome!

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So anyone know what drums, shell sizes Navine uses?
I'm pretty sure he uses DW drums (or at least, he was using a DW kit in that video of him playing Tempting Time). Dunno the shell sizes though.
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Unread 11-12-2010, 05:15 PM   #865
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I'm pretty sure he uses DW drums (or at least, he was using a DW kit in that video of him playing Tempting Time). Dunno the shell sizes though.
Thanks, it does look like a DW in that video. I just wasn't sure if anyone know the wood type sizes. Surly someone here has asked him at a show.
I just asked at the worst time since the CAFO video just got posted!
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Unread 11-15-2010, 05:03 AM   #866
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I've just looked through this whole thread and couldn't find the answer I was hoping for, I'm sorry if it's been asked before but I was just wondering if anyone knows what gauge and string brand Tosin uses?
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Unread 11-15-2010, 07:42 AM   #867
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I've just looked through this whole thread and couldn't find the answer I was hoping for, I'm sorry if it's been asked before but I was just wondering if anyone knows what gauge and string brand Tosin uses?
I know its an .080 for the low E, and i think i remember reading somewhere that someone asked him the same question on tour and he said he recently moved up to a set of 11s . dont know how cridible that is, especially since youd have to strangle a 27'' scale with 11s tuned to standard.

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Unread 11-15-2010, 07:57 AM   #868
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I know its an .080 for the low E, and i think i remember reading somewhere that someone asked him the same question on tour and he said he recently moved up to a set of 11s . dont know how cridible that is, especially since youd have to strangle a 27'' scale with 11s tuned to standard.
He barely ever bends, and when he does, I don't think any more than a half step. So 11's sound somewhat reasonable.
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I guess it's fairly credible as by his own admittance he doesn't bend very often and I suspect his action is very low....then again, that is a mighty string tension and perhaps the move was by way of an experiment?

Would love to find the definitive answer

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Dunno, I can bend just fine with .13s on my 28" baritone
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Unread 11-15-2010, 08:55 AM   #871
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perhaps the move was by way of an experiment?
Such a think string gauge is common for jazz guitar, and seeing how Tosin is so jazzy it really wouldn't surprise me if he was using .11's, I bet his lead tone is HUUGE
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Unread 11-15-2010, 09:31 AM   #872
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I've just looked through this whole thread and couldn't find the answer I was hoping for, I'm sorry if it's been asked before but I was just wondering if anyone knows what gauge and string brand Tosin uses?

I asked Tosin this in my lesson with him back in August. He said they recently gauged up, playing .11s with .74/.80 on the low B, and E, respectively. I've gauged up on my 2228 to .10s with a low .76, but am going to make the jump to the .11s-.80 soon. It's true that jazz dudes play thick strings (most of my jazz friends use .13s or.14s in STANDARD, but it's never felt that comfortable for me.
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Unread 11-15-2010, 12:57 PM   #874
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Such a think string gauge is common for jazz guitar, and seeing how Tosin is so jazzy it really wouldn't surprise me if he was using .11's, I bet his lead tone is HUUGE
Oh I know it's common for Jazzers - I'm just suprised at such a heavy gauge on a 27" scale. Jeff Loomis just dropped down a set to 9's on his 26.5" Schecter through increasing discomfort so it makes you wonder

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Unread 11-16-2010, 02:05 AM   #875
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^^ Then again, Jeff Loomis' playing style is completely different from Tosin's... Loomis bends like a bitch and his vibratos require indecent amounts of control over the strings bending.

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