Animals As Leaders MEGATHREAD: Navene Koperweis Out, Matt Garstka In

[VILARIKA]

Originally Posted by glassmoon0fo

^Pure opinion. don't set yours based on what someone else says man! I'm all for bulb's arranging style, but I also dont mind tosin's looser, "train of thought" structural form. When the album hits and all the riffage descends, I don't think too many people will be complaining anymore, one way or the other.

Sorry if I came off as not having my own opinion, but I do agree to a degree that maybe the song isn't as easily memorable as some of the older AAL tracks. Still, I think Isolated Incidents is one of my favorite tracks by them now

[Psyy]

Originally Posted by technomancer

It's going to be more fusion than djent, and I think some people just need to get over it

As the djent scene becomes more and more 'sceney' I find myself straying farther and farther from the bands one would consider 'djent'. It's just become and irritating and overused style to listen to. My opinion that Isolated Incidents isn't quite as good as the stuff on the debut album lies more in the songwriting than the style of music presented in it. The song itself just doesn't seem to be as truly listenable as nearly all the tracks on the first album were.

[GSingleton]

Not all music is meant to be popular to the listeners. Yeah, they are on a label and all that, but music is mainly for the person who is writing. I believe tosin writes a lot of stuff for himself especially on this upcoming record. I love hearing and respect that.

[glassmoon0fo]

Originally Posted by GSingleton

Not all music is meant to be popular to the listeners. Yeah, they are on a label and all that, but music is mainly for the person who is writing. I believe tosin writes a lot of stuff for himself especially on this upcoming record. I love hearing and respect that.

well said man

[The Reverend]

Originally Posted by technomancer

It's going to be more fusion than djent, and I think some people just need to get over it

QFT.

Isolated Incidents doesn't quite do it for me. I already like some of the Amazon clips that were up better than the whole of Isolated Incidents. I feel like this album is going to be more diverse. It'll also have more influences, seeing as how Javier and Navene were involved in the writing process. Hell, one could even venture to say that that's where the diversity comes from.

One thing I've wondered, though...Misha has said before that he doesn't have a great grasp of theory (I believe in the Djent Set Youtube videos). If that's the case, how would he come up with those crazy Phrygian runs in CAFO, or the like inverted 7th(?) chords in Point to Point? I get that you don't need theory to write a complex song, I mean just listen to Periphery, but I honestly wonder exactly how much beyond producing the record Bulb did.

[WishIwasfinnish]

Originally Posted by The Reverend

QFT.

Isolated Incidents doesn't quite do it for me. I already like some of the Amazon clips that were up better than the whole of Isolated Incidents. I feel like this album is going to be more diverse. It'll also have more influences, seeing as how Javier and Navene were involved in the writing process. Hell, one could even venture to say that that's where the diversity comes from.

One thing I've wondered, though...Misha has said before that he doesn't have a great grasp of theory (I believe in the Djent Set Youtube videos). If that's the case, how would he come up with those crazy Phrygian runs in CAFO, or the like inverted 7th(?) chords in Point to Point? I get that you don't need theory to write a complex song, I mean just listen to Periphery, but I honestly wonder exactly how much beyond producing the record Bulb did.

From my understanding Tosin wrote all or most of the riffs and all the chords you're talking about and Misha helped arrange the songs and produced the record

[GSingleton]

Just listened to the samples. I trust tosin, and I believe those were just rough demos. The quality was just plain bad.

There is a fantastic album under the awful quality of those clips.

[PTP]

I must have been listening to a different band called Animals As Leaders that has an album called Weightless coming out because the production on the samples I heard sounded amazing (aside from the obviously low bitrate).

[rasse]

Originally Posted by Chaotisys

I agree, I absolutely hate the way it sounds on the recording. I was pretty disappointed when they released it after watching so many live videos of it where it sounds so much better. The song itself has a couple parts I like, but overall it feels like an incomplete idea. I hope they release Odessa, that song sounds good from the samples.

Alternative Press | Features | Exclusive Stream: Animals As Leaders’ “Odessa”

BAM!

[lurgar]

Wow, that song is awesome. I really love the transition between the first two parts. The tapping into the jazzy runs is just great.

[FrancescoFiligoi]

I'll be honest, this song doesn't transmit me that much...but I still have high hopes for the album.

[Chaotisys]

Another song that kills my excitement for this album.

Well, there's still the new Faceless and (if it ever sees the light of day) Necrophagist albums...

[Into Obsidian]

Originally Posted by Chaotisys

Necrophagist albums...

[The Beard]

Odessa sounds very "video game soundtrack-ish" to me. I'd love if some sort of space/sci-fi game had it on one of the levels
There was nothing in the song that made me go "wow, that's awesome", but I have high hopes for the rest of the album

[degge]

Odessa wasn't that good

still have high hopes for the album though!

[Anthony]

I've dug both the new tracks so far. Different stuff.

[eaeolian]

Originally Posted by dragonblade629

The Bass VI is one octave below a standard guitar, a standard bass is two.

Uh, not last time *I* checked.

[eaeolian]

Originally Posted by technomancer

It's going to be more fusion than djent, and I think some people just need to get over it

Hey, maybe I'll like it, then!

[ROAR]

I like Odessa. And Isolated Incidents.
This album is gonna be great.
Less metal, more progressive. Yahoo!

[Cadavuh]

After listening to all of the samples and full tracks a few times through, its hard to not make these conclusions;

1) It will not be as epic as the self-titled, since the compositions wont be as strong, or as diverse and large
2a) It will be much more solo/virtuoso oriented
2b) There will be a lot more jazz-fusion elements
3) The feelings of the songs will be consistent throughout, as opposed to the first, which had a very diverse sound from song to song
4) Real drums are a lot better than fake drums
5) Navene Koperweis is sick

I feel that, while I know the album will be great, it will have a more limited niche compared to the first due to it being more shred oriented.

Just my opinion.

[Duelbart]

Liked Isolated Incidents, didn't like Odessa. There are two things that most of all keep me very much loooking forward to the release:

-Isolated Incidents metal part at about 2:30 was fantastic! Much better than any of the heavier riffs from the debut
-I didn't like the first album on the first listen, I even thought it's a bit random, and only later fell in love with it. Hopefully it's gonna be the same this time!

[Infamous Impact]

Stream for Odessa:
Alternative Press | Features | Exclusive Stream: Animals As Leaders’ “Odessa”
Navene's drumming sounds so hectic.

[Scattered Messiah]

At the beginning, I felt I liked the part, but not really enjoyed ... the first transition to the next section however made me grin from ear to ear, as it builds suspense really good (IMO).
I enjoy the song as whole, and, maybe just to me, this album seems to be a lot more progressive and "surprising" than the selftitled.
So I'll just wait, listen to it some 5 times and then form my opinion ... after having heard the whole thing, not just to completely different songs.

[RobZero]

that intro sound so supermario

at first i was like ''meh'' but it's growing on me...sure this is not helping my impatience for the new album!

and, indeed, real drums kick some serious ass.

[JamesM]

It's ....ing awesome.