Animals As Leaders MEGATHREAD: Navene Koperweis Out, Matt Garstka In - Page 35

animalsasleader · 11-10-2010, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by glassmoon0fo

YES SIR. repped

The new album is GOING to be different, that's a given. I personally dont care if the drums are sampled, or navene decides to blood-fart into a compression mic. AAL has already put out what i consider to be the most complete and fulfilling album in recent metal history, and when you hit the mark that dead-on, the only thing you can really do is go a different way. take, for instance, smashing pumpkins' Mellencollie double disc (for those of you that like 90's alt), it was GREAT, organic and deeply colorful. the only thing they could do after an album that great was to go with a completely drum-tracked, dark and cold effort like Adore, because if it was anything like the previous album, people would say "they fell short" or some bullshit like that. I love that music moves people to such passion, but it gets old when people criticize a TRUE artist's development. no self-respecting mucisian writes to satisfy an audience anyway.

Spot on.

Kairos · 11-10-2010, 08:10 AM

So anyone know what drums, shell sizes Navine uses?

Kavnar · 11-11-2010, 02:58 PM

.... yes

Sorry if this is a repost, I couldn't find anything.

Cyntex · 11-12-2010, 06:35 AM

watch it at 720 px

josh pelican · 11-12-2010, 07:12 AM

The video has been posted three times. We all love Animals as Leaders and Tosin, but we don't need to post it three times in two pages.

The video ....ing rules, though. The creature is actually just my penis. No big deal.

Tosin is easily the snappiest dresser in music. No one looks that good. Why does he have to taunt me so? His flawless tapping blows my mind. He has such perfect execution and seems to do it so effortlessly.

Kurkkuviipale · 11-12-2010, 07:19 AM

I was actually looking for the high quality version of the video so the last post with the video was pretty useful tbh...

josh pelican · 11-12-2010, 07:23 AM

Yeah, I noticed it was the high definition version, but Kavnar said he couldn't find the video. He couldn't have looked very hard.

I'm not trying to make a big deal or anything, I'm just being "that guy".

Kurkkuviipale · 11-12-2010, 10:48 AM

Kavnar didn't see this thread and made a new one that was moved over in this thread.

josh pelican · 11-12-2010, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Kurkkuviipale

Kavnar didn't see this thread and made a new one that was moved over in this thread.

WELL THEN.

Carry on.

Cyntex · 11-12-2010, 12:04 PM

Slightly offtopic, but for what it's worth check out prosthetic records youtube channel, they have a lot of cool videos besides Cafo on

. I actually liked the video, exactly that futuristic vibe I was hoping they would go for.

DanielKRego · 11-12-2010, 01:13 PM

Wow. That video was awesome. Although some of the animal shots got tedious after a while.

ShadyDavey · 11-12-2010, 01:52 PM

The video is indeed awesome......but it makes me hunger for more instructional material from Tosin......a great big DVD full of odd meter, tapping, sweeping and all the other stuff we all admire him for.

In the meantime - I'll listen to the album for the second time today and point out that currently this has surpassed the amount of times I've listened to Passion and Warfare since it's release

s_k_mullins · 11-12-2010, 01:55 PM

Just watched the video for 1st time. Very awesome!

Steve08 · 11-12-2010, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kairos

So anyone know what drums, shell sizes Navine uses?

I'm pretty sure he uses DW drums (or at least, he was using a DW kit in that video of him playing Tempting Time). Dunno the shell sizes though.

Kairos · 11-12-2010, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve08

I'm pretty sure he uses DW drums (or at least, he was using a DW kit in that video of him playing Tempting Time). Dunno the shell sizes though.

Thanks, it does look like a DW in that video. I just wasn't sure if anyone know the wood type sizes. Surly someone here has asked him at a show.
I just asked at the worst time since the CAFO video just got posted!

Malkav · 11-15-2010, 05:03 AM

I've just looked through this whole thread and couldn't find the answer I was hoping for, I'm sorry if it's been asked before but I was just wondering if anyone knows what gauge and string brand Tosin uses?

glassmoon0fo · 11-15-2010, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malkav

I've just looked through this whole thread and couldn't find the answer I was hoping for, I'm sorry if it's been asked before but I was just wondering if anyone knows what gauge and string brand Tosin uses?

I know its an .080 for the low E, and i think i remember reading somewhere that someone asked him the same question on tour and he said he recently moved up to a set of 11s

. dont know how cridible that is, especially since youd have to strangle a 27'' scale with 11s tuned to standard.

Kairos · 11-15-2010, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by glassmoon0fo

I know its an .080 for the low E, and i think i remember reading somewhere that someone asked him the same question on tour and he said he recently moved up to a set of 11s

. dont know how cridible that is, especially since youd have to strangle a 27'' scale with 11s tuned to standard.

He barely ever bends, and when he does, I don't think any more than a half step. So 11's sound somewhat reasonable.

ShadyDavey · 11-15-2010, 07:57 AM

I guess it's fairly credible as by his own admittance he doesn't bend very often and I suspect his action is very low....then again, that is a mighty string tension and perhaps the move was by way of an experiment?

Would love to find the definitive answer

drmosh · 11-15-2010, 08:15 AM

Dunno, I can bend just fine with .13s on my 28" baritone

Kairos · 11-15-2010, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ShadyDavey

perhaps the move was by way of an experiment?

Such a think string gauge is common for jazz guitar, and seeing how Tosin is so jazzy it really wouldn't surprise me if he was using .11's, I bet his lead tone is HUUGE

RaceCar · 11-15-2010, 09:31 AM

Is it just me or does "Waves of Babies" rock RIDICULOUSLY HARD?!?!?! Seriously I am obsessed with this song. CAN'T wait to see them here in Detroit on the 20th.

JordanLee · 11-15-2010, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malkav

I've just looked through this whole thread and couldn't find the answer I was hoping for, I'm sorry if it's been asked before but I was just wondering if anyone knows what gauge and string brand Tosin uses?

I asked Tosin this in my lesson with him back in August. He said they recently gauged up, playing .11s with .74/.80 on the low B, and E, respectively. I've gauged up on my 2228 to .10s with a low .76, but am going to make the jump to the .11s-.80 soon. It's true that jazz dudes play thick strings (most of my jazz friends use .13s or.14s in STANDARD, but it's never felt that comfortable for me.

ShadyDavey · 11-15-2010, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kairos

Such a think string gauge is common for jazz guitar, and seeing how Tosin is so jazzy it really wouldn't surprise me if he was using .11's, I bet his lead tone is HUUGE

Oh I know it's common for Jazzers - I'm just suprised at such a heavy gauge on a 27" scale. Jeff Loomis just dropped down a set to 9's on his 26.5" Schecter through increasing discomfort so it makes you wonder

Alberto7 · 11-16-2010, 02:05 AM

^^ Then again, Jeff Loomis' playing style is completely different from Tosin's... Loomis bends like a bitch and his vibratos require indecent amounts of control over the strings bending.

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11-11-2010, 02:58 PM	#853
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11-12-2010, 06:35 AM	#854
Cyntex love & peace! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,348 Thanked: 17 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	watch it at 720 px I want to get a vending machine, with fun sized candy bars, and the glass in front is a magnifying glass. You'll be mad, but it will be too late.

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11-10-2010, 08:10 AM	#852
Kairos Quintessentially So Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Saylorsburg, PA Posts: 344 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	So anyone know what drums, shell sizes Navine uses?

11-12-2010, 07:12 AM	#855
josh pelican Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Dartmouth, NS Posts: 2,734 Thanked: 78 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	The video has been posted three times. We all love Animals as Leaders and Tosin, but we don't need to post it three times in two pages. The video ....ing rules, though. The creature is actually just my penis. No big deal. Tosin is easily the snappiest dresser in music. No one looks that good. Why does he have to taunt me so? His flawless tapping blows my mind. He has such perfect execution and seems to do it so effortlessly.

11-12-2010, 07:23 AM	#857
josh pelican Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Dartmouth, NS Posts: 2,734 Thanked: 78 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Yeah, I noticed it was the high definition version, but Kavnar said he couldn't find the video. He couldn't have looked very hard. I'm not trying to make a big deal or anything, I'm just being "that guy".

11-12-2010, 12:04 PM	#860
Cyntex love & peace! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,348 Thanked: 17 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Slightly offtopic, but for what it's worth check out prosthetic records youtube channel, they have a lot of cool videos besides Cafo on . I actually liked the video, exactly that futuristic vibe I was hoping they would go for. I want to get a vending machine, with fun sized candy bars, and the glass in front is a magnifying glass. You'll be mad, but it will be too late.

11-12-2010, 01:13 PM	#861
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11-12-2010, 01:52 PM	#862
ShadyDavey 7ibrarian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Peterborough, UK Posts: 6,578 Thanked: 104 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	The video is indeed awesome......but it makes me hunger for more instructional material from Tosin......a great big DVD full of odd meter, tapping, sweeping and all the other stuff we all admire him for. In the meantime - I'll listen to the album for the second time today and point out that currently this has surpassed the amount of times I've listened to Passion and Warfare since it's release While raping a bear in Yellowstone and snorting coke out of a freshly-dead baby's skull, I finally felt that I had found my calling and built a time machine out of Iraqi WMDs and LOTS OF HEMP WHOA. Using this time machine I went back in time and shot JFK from outer ....ing space. I am now your god - Jeff .....and then all of a sudden he drops the musical equivilant of a steaming turd right in our laps - ESP Griffyn

11-12-2010, 01:55 PM	#863
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11-15-2010, 05:03 AM	#866
Malkav Washing your dishes. Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Cape Town, S.A Posts: 612 Thanked: 4 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I've just looked through this whole thread and couldn't find the answer I was hoping for, I'm sorry if it's been asked before but I was just wondering if anyone knows what gauge and string brand Tosin uses?

11-15-2010, 07:57 AM	#869
ShadyDavey 7ibrarian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Peterborough, UK Posts: 6,578 Thanked: 104 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I guess it's fairly credible as by his own admittance he doesn't bend very often and I suspect his action is very low....then again, that is a mighty string tension and perhaps the move was by way of an experiment? Would love to find the definitive answer While raping a bear in Yellowstone and snorting coke out of a freshly-dead baby's skull, I finally felt that I had found my calling and built a time machine out of Iraqi WMDs and LOTS OF HEMP WHOA. Using this time machine I went back in time and shot JFK from outer ....ing space. I am now your god - Jeff .....and then all of a sudden he drops the musical equivilant of a steaming turd right in our laps - ESP Griffyn

11-15-2010, 08:15 AM	#870
drmosh Sir Paul of the Mosh Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 4,684 Thanked: 29 $drmosh is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $drmosh is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $drmosh is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $drmosh is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $drmosh is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $drmosh is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $drmosh is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Dunno, I can bend just fine with .13s on my 28" baritone

11-15-2010, 09:31 AM	#872
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11-16-2010, 02:05 AM	#875
Alberto7 At Fort Kickass Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Montréal, QC Posts: 2,045 Thanked: 16 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^^ Then again, Jeff Loomis' playing style is completely different from Tosin's... Loomis bends like a bitch and his vibratos require indecent amounts of control over the strings bending. Sum, ergo cogito; cogito, ergo dubito; dubito, ergo cogito; cogito, ergo sum.

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