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Unread 04-23-2010, 09:08 PM   #651
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Unread 04-23-2010, 09:12 PM   #652
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I'm watching it actually cause it's Posehn related
I've never really been a fan of his. He's OK on the Sarah Silverman show but other than that he's boring to me. Also kind of on and off topic at the same time, heres an awesome video I found of a Periphery song with one of my favorite movies, "The Professional", synced up to it.



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Unread 04-23-2010, 09:14 PM   #653
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Honestly, this album was my favorite to come out so far this year. I completely disagree with what they were saying when it came to why they didn't like it...in fact, they're the reasons I love the album.

I guess i'm just a young kid. D:

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Unread 04-23-2010, 09:16 PM   #654
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I so totally agree with him.
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Unread 04-23-2010, 09:22 PM   #655
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So, Iron Maiden gets only 2 tacos?

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Unread 04-23-2010, 09:27 PM   #656
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Haha I find that silly because I think metal could use more melody when possible.
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Unread 04-23-2010, 09:37 PM   #657
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I like melodic, I do see what they mean and it used to frustrate me, but the cleans really grew on me. But I love Posehn so I can't get mad. That and JESUS are they baked. That had to affect the scores.

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Unread 04-23-2010, 09:41 PM   #658
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It's their opinion and they're entitled to it, but what's with the 'who is their target audience' bullshit? Since when do bands have to have a target audience, especially in metal/prog? Last I checked most people are willing to agree that artists should create music for themselves and the way they want it to be, free of constraint.

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+1. There are too few talented singers in metal. Easily the weakest area of the entire genre IMO.
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Unread 04-23-2010, 09:45 PM   #659
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Periphery... math metal? Just because they use weird time signatures doesn't make them math metal. I mean, Ion Dissonance and Psyopus are math metal. Not Periphery.

That said, I agree with some of the things he said and disagree with some. I do think that Spencer's vocals are not too great. But they're definitely not going to make the album go down to 2/5; I would still rate it like a 4/5. Maybe I've just been spoiled by listening to the older Bulb instrumentals, since I always prefer my djent to be instrumental. Idk. He made good points and bad ones.
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Unread 04-23-2010, 09:47 PM   #660
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my question is how did ratt get 4 tacos
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Yeah see anyone who says "This would be better if it were all screaming" (or as Posehn put it "scary monster voice") is not approaching the music with an open mind. I could say the opposite, I tend to not dig bands as much if it's all about the cookie monster... I really liked the record because they had a good mix of both vocal styles. I get bored if it's all one or all the other, like a bit of both.

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Unread 04-23-2010, 09:54 PM   #662
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I've never really been a fan of his. He's OK on the Sarah Silverman show but other than that he's boring to me.
I'm the opposite, I HATE everything to do with not only the Sarah Silverman Show but her in general, but I'm a huge fan of his stand up and shit.

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JESUS are they baked. That had to affect the scores.
Noticed this too and found it to be AWESOME. Seriously, I don't think I've ever been THAT high

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Periphery... math metal? Just because they use weird time signatures doesn't make them math metal. I mean, Ion Dissonance and Psyopus are math metal. Not Periphery.

That said, I agree with some of the things he said and disagree with some. I do think that Spencer's vocals are not too great. But they're definitely not going to make the album go down to 2/5; I would still rate it like a 4/5. Maybe I've just been spoiled by listening to the older Bulb instrumentals, since I always prefer my djent to be instrumental. Idk. He made good points and bad ones.
I can't really see Periphery being anything but math metal/technical. From the few things I've heard (I'm not a djent fan at all - I only really listen to Keith's stuff - but I'm not gonna go all anti-djent with a pitchfork and shit) it doesn't fit into anything else. Not sure if it's Periphery stuff or just Bulb's stuff but things like Totla Mad and Zyglox (or whatever it's called) are pretty insane and don't exactly scream "I'm your ________ genre song!"

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Unread 04-23-2010, 09:56 PM   #663
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Yeah see anyone who says "This would be better if it were all screaming" (or as Posehn put it "scary monster voice") is not approaching the music with an open mind. I could say the opposite, I tend to not dig bands as much if it's all about the cookie monster... I really liked the record because they had a good mix of both vocal styles. I get bored if it's all one or all the other, like a bit of both.
I love Periphery for having clean and screaming, There's really only a few bands I can take with all screaming, or very dirty vox, and it's because of their already present individuality in the scream.
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Unread 04-23-2010, 09:57 PM   #664
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Dude, I was at school and the sites I DID find were blocked. You don't have to be a dick.
No offense but don't go getting your panties in a bunch.

You raised a simple question that from that quote right there, if you had waited until school was over and you were home - you could've found it yourself like you had been trying to earlier.

Gunshow's answer was a simple joke and it's not like he called you a string of profanities and what have you.

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Unread 04-23-2010, 10:00 PM   #665
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I can't really see Periphery being anything but math metal/technical. From the few things I've heard (I'm not a djent fan at all - I only really listen to Keith's stuff - but I'm not gonna go all anti-djent with a pitchfork and shit) it doesn't fit into anything else. Not sure if it's Periphery stuff or just Bulb's stuff but things like Totla Mad and Zyglox (or whatever it's called) are pretty insane and don't exactly scream "I'm your ________ genre song!"
Yeah, Zyglrox etc are math metal, but I would just call the band in general progressive/technical metal because they really don't fit my description of math metal. Math metal is a pretty nutty term anyway because I've never heard of any bands using math to write their music except for that song pi by After the Burial, even though it seems like some bands do.
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I agree with almost everything Posehn said, except that I like clean vocals. And he stated his opinion really aware of his own opinions and tastes.

I just didn't care for Spencer's clean vocals. He's not a bad singer, he has great range. But there's also the factor of delivery in a singer beyond their technical ability. And I didn't like Spencer's delivery.

To me, it lacked balls. Not because his voice is high, just look at singers like Dickinson or Halford. That's just how it came off to me.

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I have a hinting suspicion that NO band REALLY uses math to come up with their riffs (except for the aforementioned 'Pi')

Math metal is just used to describe that all-over-the-place, technical sound with usually accompanied by an unusual vocal style that switches between clean and dirty (or dirty and dirtier )

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No offense but don't go getting your panties in a bunch.

You raised a simple question that from that quote right there, if you had waited until school was over and you were home - you could've found it yourself like you had been trying to earlier.

Gunshow's answer was a simple joke and it's not like he called you a string of profanities and what have you.
Sorry. Got sick of that over at UG, so I don't respond well to it.

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Unread 04-23-2010, 10:17 PM   #669
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"Our lead singer would be Spencer Sotelo who's voice goes up like and angel and down like a wounded ox." If Posehn knew that than maybe he would get it.

For someone who has never heard Periphery or music as complex as theirs, it would be wise to hear it more than once because its not easy for a beginner. So, I hope he listens to it again and eats more tacos.
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For someone who has never heard Periphery or music as complex as theirs, it would be wise to hear it more than once because its not easy for a beginner. So, I hope he listens to it again and eats more tacos.
Music as complex as theirs? He says in the video he listens to shit like Dillinger Escape Plan.. I wouldn't call him a beginner. He might be a little closed minded but he's been around the metal block a few times.
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I know Periphery has been in Milwaukee(at The Rave, and I missed them) at least once. Just keep checking their Myspace to see their upcoming tour dates.
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I agree completely. My opinion (which I'll get flamed for), is that Periphery doesn't need clean vocals, well, maybe not Spencer's clean vocals. I enjoy their music more as instrumentals.

To right to rage - Posehn listens to DEP. How is that not as complex as Periphery?

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I know Periphery has been in Milwaukee(at The Rave, and I missed them) at least once. Just keep checking their Myspace to see their upcoming tour dates.
That's disappointing :/ Hopefully the come through soon.

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