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ScottyB724 · 05-01-2011, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by space frog

am I the only one who would LOVE to hear Füf on the second CD of next album??

I support this ....ing statement.

Kurkkuviipale · 05-01-2011, 03:08 PM

No, you're not. Füf is already asked (to be or not to be in the new album) in this thread BTW. About 20 pages ago or something. I think bulb said he'd love to hear it ofcourse, but he can't promise anything. Obviously enough, he can't put EVERYTHING in one album.

Cynic · 05-01-2011, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by space frog

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Frogdit: ok done with trolling lol... am I the only one who would LOVE to hear Füf on the second CD of next album??

Personally, I wouldn't. I'd rather hear completely fresh, brand new material.

Kurkkuviipale · 05-01-2011, 03:20 PM

Like bulb said earlier, there's gonna be old (revoked) and new material, and Füf is definitely one of my fav of the yet unofficial old songs.

Bulb, is the album concept you posted earlier still gonna be used, or have you got some changes in your plans?

bulb · 05-01-2011, 03:51 PM

there will be a good mix of old stuff and new stuff

bulb · 05-01-2011, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tbb529

Doesn't Taylor Larson allegedly use Orbin's actual drum sounds on his recordings? Orbin's drum sounds are usually pretty damn good though not my favorite in the world...

He makes samples of the kit and layers them over the top, if you are going to use samples, even for layering, you might as well use the best samples available aka toontrack.
you might be surprised to find out how many huge producers nowadays use toontrack

bulb · 05-01-2011, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurkkuviipale

I'm not 100% sure, but does Tool use fully recorded set? If so, that must be one hell of a rarity and yea... they have a LOT of money.

tool also arent terribly heavy or layered, their drum sound would get completely eaten up by our guitars

Elijah · 05-01-2011, 05:40 PM

Your drum sounds are damn fine, Misha

MaxStatic · 05-01-2011, 05:48 PM

For me, I don't give a .... if its layered, sampled, performed by a monkey, if it sounds good, it sounds good.

And Misha, your shit sounds damn good! Loving the ep too, very good stuff on that disc.

NovaReaper · 05-01-2011, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bulb

name a recording that you believe has a good drum sound and that you also believe to be fully acoustic drums

bulb · 05-01-2011, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NovaReaper

subjectivity aside, that drum sound would never work for us
but to bring the subjective back in, it also sounds terrible hahah

ZOMB13 · 05-01-2011, 09:56 PM

In before "St. Anger" drum suggestions

ROAR · 05-01-2011, 10:02 PM

So are you saying there's two drum tracks on albums?
I've never heard of layering drums before.

And now I wonder if a band like Coheed makes use of this.
Just because I like them.

mountainjam · 05-01-2011, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bulb

name a recording that you believe has a good drum sound and that you also believe to be fully acoustic drums

everything blake richardson has ever done?

im not saying im against digital drums, but just giving an example. but maybe im wrong...

durangokid · 05-01-2011, 10:33 PM

Ain't Scale The Summit last album, The Collective, is full acoustic drum?

And it sounds freakin awesome

TheSilentWater · 05-02-2011, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mountainjam

everything blake richardson has ever done?

im not saying im against digital drums, but just giving an example. but maybe im wrong...

He mentioned in a video in the run-up to the release of Parallax that he was pleased only the kick was replaced during the recording, which implies that they've used samples for most of their previous albums.

Seriously guys, practically all modern metal recordings augment their drums with samples.

space frog · 05-02-2011, 09:33 AM

as long as it sounds nice?

bulb · 05-02-2011, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mountainjam

everything blake richardson has ever done?

im not saying im against digital drums, but just giving an example. but maybe im wrong...

You are most definitely wrong about that, and this only goes to prove my point on how this is all a psychological matter and not something thats ACTUALLY an issue.

bulb · 05-02-2011, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ROAR

So are you saying there's two drum tracks on albums?
I've never heard of layering drums before.

And now I wonder if a band like Coheed makes use of this.
Just because I like them.

Sometimes way more. Producers like John Feldmann will often layer 3 or more samples for the kick and snare each on top of the real drums.
Coheed definitely does, though im sure second stage turbine blade is all real, but then again thats why the drums/mix have very little power compared to something like the new album.

This is what i have been trying to educate people on, 99% of bands with a huge mix/drum mix have to use samples to get that sound. Yes, even the bands that you are certain dont. Yes even Karnivool on Sound Awake have samples.
So you guys can now appreciate how this is in actually a very non-existant issue to have with recordings given that they are integral to making a mix sound good.

toiletstand · 05-02-2011, 10:24 AM

i remember on one of my first recordings someone told me that the snare sounded like a dixie cup. i plan to make the dixie cup snare cool one of these days.

bulb · 05-02-2011, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by durangokid

Ain't Scale The Summit last album, The Collective, is full acoustic drum?

And it sounds freakin awesome

I dont know for sure, but i can HEAR the snare sample on it at the very least

ZackP3750 · 05-02-2011, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by bulb

So you guys can now appreciate how this is in actually a very non-existant issue to have with recordings given that they are integral to making a mix sound good.

I would say its the same with guitar amps. You're always going to have purists who think there's no better sound than tube, and you're always going to have guys taking advantage of the newest digital technologies who swear its best. Digital v. analog, sample v. acoustic, autotune v. singing (ok, that was a bit much) but you get the gist. We're just getting to a point that the technology can't be differentiated from the "real" tones. Personally I don't care, if it sounds good it sounds good.

that said, can't wait for some new peRIFFery (so, so corny

)

mountainjam · 05-02-2011, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bulb

You are most definitely wrong about that, and this only goes to prove my point on how this is all a psychological matter and not something thats ACTUALLY an issue.

i never said it was an issue. i personally dont care how people achieve their sound. if it sounds good it sounds good. i just legitimately thought with exception of the latest record bam had an old school approach to recording. my bad dude...

Malkav · 05-02-2011, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by bulb

there will be a good mix of old stuff and new stuff

8 strings?

ROAR · 05-02-2011, 12:00 PM

Mind=BLOWN.

I have never heard of drum layering before.
Are they're any interviews going around where bigger
producers talk about this?

And Misha, do you layer drums on Periphery's album?

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Kurkkuviipale Another Sinking Shit Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 3,714 Thanked: 95 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	No, you're not. Füf is already asked (to be or not to be in the new album) in this thread BTW. About 20 pages ago or something. I think bulb said he'd love to hear it ofcourse, but he can't promise anything. Obviously enough, he can't put EVERYTHING in one album. Oceill - Facebook Oceill - SoundCloud Joel's Soundcloud Memoirs - Facebook My views and ways for mixing, processing and programming drums! (WIP) JL Productions - Mixing and mastering services by me! Go check it out!

05-01-2011, 03:20 PM	#3204
Kurkkuviipale Another Sinking Shit Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 3,714 Thanked: 95 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Like bulb said earlier, there's gonna be old (revoked) and new material, and Füf is definitely one of my fav of the yet unofficial old songs. Bulb, is the album concept you posted earlier still gonna be used, or have you got some changes in your plans? Oceill - Facebook Oceill - SoundCloud Joel's Soundcloud Memoirs - Facebook My views and ways for mixing, processing and programming drums! (WIP) JL Productions - Mixing and mastering services by me! Go check it out!

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Elijah SS.org Regular Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 958 Thanked: 12 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Your drum sounds are damn fine, Misha

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MaxStatic SS.org Regular Join Date: May 2010 Location: Armpit, AL Posts: 235 Thanked: 3 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	For me, I don't give a .... if its layered, sampled, performed by a monkey, if it sounds good, it sounds good. And Misha, your shit sounds damn good! Loving the ep too, very good stuff on that disc.

05-01-2011, 10:02 PM	#3213
ROAR Oaf Tobar Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,805 Thanked: 15 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	So are you saying there's two drum tracks on albums? I've never heard of layering drums before. And now I wonder if a band like Coheed makes use of this. Just because I like them.

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toiletstand /\'...'/\ Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: El Paso, Tx Posts: 1,651 Thanked: 23 Feedback Score: 18 reviews	i remember on one of my first recordings someone told me that the snare sounded like a dixie cup. i plan to make the dixie cup snare cool one of these days.

05-02-2011, 12:00 PM	#3225
ROAR Oaf Tobar Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,805 Thanked: 15 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Mind=BLOWN. I have never heard of drum layering before. Are they're any interviews going around where bigger producers talk about this? And Misha, do you layer drums on Periphery's album?

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