New Job: Amp Tech

Regor · 05-10-2006, 09:53 PM

Fuck me if I didn't convince my lead guitarist into new gear... and now I gotta fucking set it all up for him!!

So after finding out that the Rocktron Chameleon has a MIDI controllable wah in it, we found a used one at a local store. I went up there with my FCB1010 and tried it out... and Kevin came up and played on it, and $175 later, he now has eliminated the Digitech Whammy pedal off the floor, along with a power cord & 2 signal cables. So all he has is the FCB and a power cable and MIDI cable for it to worry about now. Nice & efficient!

So tomorrow when he gets out of work, I get to wire up his new rig, and figure out how to make it all work.

It's going to be this:
Nady XR-61 wireless -> Rocktron Chameleon (for wah only) -> Boss NS-2 (depending on whether or not the Hush in the Chameleon can be used efficiently) -> H&K TriAmp [Rocktron Xpression in FX Loop] -> 5150 straight cab.

I gotta figure out how to put each unit (amp, chameleon, xpression) on separate MIDI channels. Then it shouldn't be too difficult to do.

And he still has to buy new cables for the whole rig (prolly Planet Waves) and a amp case for the H&K and a power conditioner too (and prolly a Behringer BTR-2000).

I should make him buy me dinner...

Leon · 05-10-2006, 11:25 PM

...dinner and a sexual favor from his hot chick

metalfiend666 · 05-11-2006, 04:41 AM

Sounds like it'll be a cool setup. I'd avoid the BTR-2000 though and go with a Korg DTR-2000. After seeing Waynecustom7's tale of woe about his Behringer I cancelled the order for mine and got the Korg instead. I've had no problems with it.

noodles · 05-11-2006, 01:34 PM

Did you say you needed an amp case?

http://www.affordable-cases.com/

Regor · 05-12-2006, 12:37 AM

Well, this is definately going to take a while to get it all working correctly.

So far I've got the FCB set to change the presets on the Xpression, change channels on the amp, and engage/disengage the wah, all correctly. But now I've got levels to fix. Cuz the wah was making way too much noise. But first I've gotta the the head and the Xpression working together. But that's tomorrow's job.

Here's a couple pics of the amp for now:

Damn that's sexay!

Leon · 05-12-2006, 01:50 AM

yummy! he's going to let me play it, right?

David · 05-12-2006, 01:52 AM

H&K amps make me hard.

Regor · 05-17-2006, 01:25 AM

Finally it's all working correctly!

After playing tone optometrist (does it sound better like this? or like this?) for about 2 hours, we finally got the Chameleon setup to sound very very close to how it sounds going straight into the amp via cable. The only major problem, which isn't too major, is that the Chameleon adds more hiss to the signal than straight into it with a cable does. But Kevin says it's liveable, especially considering he now has a midi controlled wah, which is HUGE to him.

Eventually he's going to buy a midi-looper to put the Chameleon into, so he'll get a clean signal going straight into his amp when he's not using the wah, and then just switch the wah into the signal path when he needs it. That'll cut down on that noise entirely. (I can't believe how quiet his amp is otherwise!!). In the end, there's 2 different presets used for his wah's (and when the unit is bypassed, since the preamp still affects the tone even when you bypass the unit). There's a setting for distorted sounds, and one for clean sounds. And they sound fine for now, until he can afford to buy the midi looper.

Can't wait for Saturday!!!

05-10-2006, 09:53 PM	#1
Regor God Bless Mike Join Date: May 2005 Location: Detroit Rawk City Posts: 3,724 Real Name: Mr.Luxury Yacht Main Seven: Ibz RG2127X (The Japanez) Rig: TriAxis/G-Force/2:90 Thanked: 60	New Job: Amp Tech Fuck me if I didn't convince my lead guitarist into new gear... and now I gotta fucking set it all up for him!! So after finding out that the Rocktron Chameleon has a MIDI controllable wah in it, we found a used one at a local store. I went up there with my FCB1010 and tried it out... and Kevin came up and played on it, and $175 later, he now has eliminated the Digitech Whammy pedal off the floor, along with a power cord & 2 signal cables. So all he has is the FCB and a power cable and MIDI cable for it to worry about now. Nice & efficient! So tomorrow when he gets out of work, I get to wire up his new rig, and figure out how to make it all work. It's going to be this: Nady XR-61 wireless -> Rocktron Chameleon (for wah only) -> Boss NS-2 (depending on whether or not the Hush in the Chameleon can be used efficiently) -> H&K TriAmp [Rocktron Xpression in FX Loop] -> 5150 straight cab. I gotta figure out how to put each unit (amp, chameleon, xpression) on separate MIDI channels. Then it shouldn't be too difficult to do. And he still has to buy new cables for the whole rig (prolly Planet Waves) and a amp case for the H&K and a power conditioner too (and prolly a Behringer BTR-2000). I should make him buy me dinner... *Metal... Nuff Said!!* NEXT SHOW: Oct 3rd - IROCK Nightclub, Detroit MI Website: www.justdefymetal.com MySpace: myspace.com/justdefymetal

05-10-2006, 11:25 PM	#2
Leon {##[====:::. • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Ohio Crew Posts: 11,720 Main Seven: RG7620 of Doom Rig: Mesa / Sovtek Thanked: 78	...dinner and a sexual favor from his hot chick I have a radical idea. The door swings both ways, we could reverse the particle flow through the gate. We'll cross the streams.

05-11-2006, 04:41 AM	#3
metalfiend666 Mod Britannia Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Basildon, Essex, England Posts: 9,615 Real Name: James Main Seven: Death Warrior/KXK Sii-7 Rig: Dual Rec->Trace 3x12 Thanked: 43	Sounds like it'll be a cool setup. I'd avoid the BTR-2000 though and go with a Korg DTR-2000. After seeing Waynecustom7's tale of woe about his Behringer I cancelled the order for mine and got the Korg instead. I've had no problems with it. Ibanez 540S7 for sale

05-11-2006, 01:34 PM	#4
noodles I'm your huckleberry • Super Moderator • Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Woodbridge, VA Posts: 17,596 Real Name: Dave Main Seven: KxK V7 - The Emo Killer Rig: Roadster/GMaj/4x12 Thanked: 291	Did you say you needed an amp case? http://www.affordable-cases.com/ Noodles Division: American Metal without the suck. sales@kxkguitars.com "Somewhere along the way, the Straight Talk Express lost some wheels..." --Barack Obama on John McCain

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05-12-2006, 12:37 AM	#5
Regor God Bless Mike Join Date: May 2005 Location: Detroit Rawk City Posts: 3,724 Real Name: Mr.Luxury Yacht Main Seven: Ibz RG2127X (The Japanez) Rig: TriAxis/G-Force/2:90 Thanked: 60	Well, this is definately going to take a while to get it all working correctly. So far I've got the FCB set to change the presets on the Xpression, change channels on the amp, and engage/disengage the wah, all correctly. But now I've got levels to fix. Cuz the wah was making way too much noise. But first I've gotta the the head and the Xpression working together. But that's tomorrow's job. Here's a couple pics of the amp for now: Damn that's sexay!

05-12-2006, 01:50 AM	#6
Leon {##[====:::. • Super Moderator • Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Ohio Crew Posts: 11,720 Main Seven: RG7620 of Doom Rig: Mesa / Sovtek Thanked: 78	yummy! he's going to let me play it, right?

05-12-2006, 01:52 AM	#7
David je t'aime Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Issaquah, WA Posts: 4,193 Real Name: David Knise Main Seven: 2005 Ibanez RG1527 w/ Blazes Rig: POD XT Live > Carvin Thanked: 2 / 1	H&K amps make me hard.

05-17-2006, 01:25 AM	#8
Regor God Bless Mike Join Date: May 2005 Location: Detroit Rawk City Posts: 3,724 Real Name: Mr.Luxury Yacht Main Seven: Ibz RG2127X (The Japanez) Rig: TriAxis/G-Force/2:90 Thanked: 60	Finally it's all working correctly! After playing tone optometrist (does it sound better like this? or like this?) for about 2 hours, we finally got the Chameleon setup to sound very very close to how it sounds going straight into the amp via cable. The only major problem, which isn't too major, is that the Chameleon adds more hiss to the signal than straight into it with a cable does. But Kevin says it's liveable, especially considering he now has a midi controlled wah, which is HUGE to him. Eventually he's going to buy a midi-looper to put the Chameleon into, so he'll get a clean signal going straight into his amp when he's not using the wah, and then just switch the wah into the signal path when he needs it. That'll cut down on that noise entirely. (I can't believe how quiet his amp is otherwise!!). In the end, there's 2 different presets used for his wah's (and when the unit is bypassed, since the preamp still affects the tone even when you bypass the unit). There's a setting for distorted sounds, and one for clean sounds. And they sound fine for now, until he can afford to buy the midi looper. Can't wait for Saturday!!!

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