homepage   sevenstring guitars   sevenstring registry   photo gallery   subscription   spy 
Sevenstring.org - The Seven String Guitar Authority
Go Back   SevenString.org > Music Discussion > Gear & Equipment
LIKE SS.org on Facebook FOLLOW SS.org on Twitter
  
Gear & Equipment Discussions on Racks, Amps, Cabinets, Tube vs. Solid State debates, effects processors, etc.

Reply
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Unread 05-10-2009, 03:10 PM   #26
Classical & Metal
 
bulletbass man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: King of Prussia
Posts: 1,598
Thanked: 8
bulletbass man is a jewel in the rough
Feedback Score: 3 reviews
Originally It wasn't supposed to be delivered till late may at the earliest because the combo the shop I ordered mine from was already taken. However that guy asked for Blonde tolex so when it was shipped with black it became mine.

Apparently my father must've taken the camera with him to my grandmother's home so I can't take any pics until he gets back which is monday I believe.

I'm still working on reviewing this amp. It has so many features and so many possible sounds it's rather difficult to review. I should get a few good chances to crank it in the next few days to better tell you about the high gain channels. I probably could give a crack at the clean channel. I'll atleast give you a brief summary for now.

The first channel has 3 main sounds. There is the clean, fat, and tweed setting. The clean setting is rather bright and while it sounds amazing for chords one must turn the treble down quite a bit for soloing. So far this is my favorite of the three channel one voicings. Fat is much like clean except with more low mids and bass response. Tweed is not much of a clean channel but more of a pushed low gain amp sound. It's a really interesting bridge between clean sounds and overdrive. All three modes sound absolutely fantastic. I haven't gotten much of a chance to mess around with the eq options on this channel (or even test the full capabilities of it's own preamp eq). However the choices of the clean channel do not stop there. Firstly there is the bold/normal switch. Bold basically gives the cleans more balls while simaltaneously seems to compress the cleans as well. Of course the cleans are still no where near in your face like a rectos (thank god) but it can definitely help you come thru on a particurally loud gig.
Finally there are the power amp options. Basically you can choose thru 4 different modes. The 10 watt multiclass, 45 a/b watt with an ss rectifier, 45 a/b watt with tube rectifier, and lastly 90 watt simulclass. So far i've found 45 with a tube rectifier to produce the best clean tones. It just seems to bring a little bit more life to the cleans. However don't matter what power amp options you use this amp has undoubtedly the best cleans on any mesa.

Also the reverb on this amp sounds absolutely amazing.
bulletbass man is offline   Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Seven String

Beitrag Sponsored Links

__________________
This advertising will not be shown in this way to registered members.
Register your free account today and become a member on SevenString.org
   
Unread 05-13-2009, 11:39 AM   #27
SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS
 
Bound's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Woostah Mass!
Posts: 917
Thanked: 14
Bound is a name known to allBound is a name known to allBound is a name known to allBound is a name known to all
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Today would be a good day for clips and pics.

kthxbye.

Love,
Bound

my mother.... she never loved me. She always says she wishes shes was a raped by someone else ~Borat
Bound is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-13-2009, 03:44 PM   #28
grumpy old man
 
scott from _actual time_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Virginia, USA
Posts: 1,037
Thanked: 9
scott from _actual time_ is shredding to new heights.scott from _actual time_ is shredding to new heights.scott from _actual time_ is shredding to new heights.scott from _actual time_ is shredding to new heights.scott from _actual time_ is shredding to new heights.scott from _actual time_ is shredding to new heights.scott from _actual time_ is shredding to new heights.
Feedback Score: 21 reviews
here are a couple new Youtube clips of the Mark V's high-gain channel (not made by me--this dude totally smokes my playing ).




_actual time_ : prog/math/metal/???? on myspace
download our EPs free at actual-time.com
scott from _actual time_ is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-13-2009, 04:13 PM   #29
Banned
 
MTech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: East Coast
Posts: 2,594
Thanked: 14
MTech is a glorious beacon of lightMTech is a glorious beacon of lightMTech is a glorious beacon of light
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Not the best sound quality in either of those videos..though i think these really show what I found playing one the other day. The amp seems to really have that rounded off/muffled high end it's almost kind of dull there's just not a lot of bite. It was REALLY ticking me off cause having heard the amp in person at NAMM when they did their demo it blew me away. It was able to do that nice smooth darker tone with the hi end rolled off, but than you could get loads of bite and sustain...so where was it hiding??? Than I noticed the bright switch and when you engage that this amp really comes alive revealing what I heard at NAMM. It gets lots of bite and all that dark rounded smoothness behind it... Truly an awesome amp.
MTech is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-13-2009, 04:30 PM   #30
SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS
 
Bound's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Woostah Mass!
Posts: 917
Thanked: 14
Bound is a name known to allBound is a name known to allBound is a name known to allBound is a name known to all
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Sounds good, but I thought the 'scooped mid' thing went out with the 80's.

my mother.... she never loved me. She always says she wishes shes was a raped by someone else ~Borat
Bound is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-13-2009, 08:01 PM   #31
MFB
ExBendable
 
MFB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 8,716
Thanked: 92
MFB is the epitome of metal.MFB is the epitome of metal.MFB is the epitome of metal.MFB is the epitome of metal.MFB is the epitome of metal.MFB is the epitome of metal.MFB is the epitome of metal.MFB is the epitome of metal.MFB is the epitome of metal.
Feedback Score: 13 reviews
I believe Lamb of God were using these last night and unfortunately, they too fell victim to a bit of the V EQ form

(´・ω・`)

In space, no one can hear you bree. - Metal Ken
MFB is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-13-2009, 08:20 PM   #32
SS.org Regular
 
Pewtershmit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: vancouver (delta), BC
Posts: 367
Thanked: 4
Pewtershmit is a jewel in the rough
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bound View Post
Sounds good, but I thought the 'scooped mid' thing went out with the 80's.
ya i know. I can't wait to get mine and make a nice tasty mid hump. must have mids!!
Pewtershmit is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-13-2009, 11:57 PM   #33
Parker über alles
 
yingmin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Tacoma, WA
Posts: 3,498
Thanked: 26
yingmin is a splendid one to beholdyingmin is a splendid one to beholdyingmin is a splendid one to beholdyingmin is a splendid one to beholdyingmin is a splendid one to behold
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bound View Post
Sounds good, but I thought the 'scooped mid' thing went out with the 80's.
Mesa has "scooped mid 4ever" written on their Peechee. Every stock picture I've ever seen of a Mesa with the EQ sliders, including the just-released Mark V, has the sliders scooped. Even the preset EQ curves on the Triaxis are different variations on a mid scoop.

I have a problem cn this mod ke the eicoli and the infantry cn a blow dies what can make?

excused for the errors but are Italian
yingmin is online now   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-14-2009, 01:42 AM   #34
Classical & Metal
 
bulletbass man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: King of Prussia
Posts: 1,598
Thanked: 8
bulletbass man is a jewel in the rough
Feedback Score: 3 reviews
They ship with the V shape on the sliders.

The preset eq (switchable between that and sliders) is just a mid scoop.
bulletbass man is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-14-2009, 07:27 AM   #35
SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS
 
Bound's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Woostah Mass!
Posts: 917
Thanked: 14
Bound is a name known to allBound is a name known to allBound is a name known to allBound is a name known to all
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by MFB View Post
I believe Lamb of God were using these last night and unfortunately, they too fell victim to a bit of the V EQ form
I've seen them live a couple of times and they sounded great both times, so it's wierd that they'd do that. I can't speak for Will, but I know during Sacrement Mark was using 2 Mark IV's both EQ'ed differently. One he scooped, and one he had mid punched.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pewtershmit
ya i know. I can't wait to get mine and make a nice tasty mid hump. must have mids!!
tasty mids.......

Quote:
Originally Posted by yingmin
Mesa has "scooped mid 4ever" written on their Peechee. Every stock picture I've ever seen of a Mesa with the EQ sliders, including the just-released Mark V, has the sliders scooped. Even the preset EQ curves on the Triaxis are different variations on a mid scoop.
I cannot and will not relate to that philosophy. What would possess someone to cut out the most harmonically rich portion of the instrument right out. And in high gain land you can get some pretty gnarly chugs ripping with tasty tasty mids.

my mother.... she never loved me. She always says she wishes shes was a raped by someone else ~Borat
Bound is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-14-2009, 07:38 AM   #36
Classical & Metal
 
bulletbass man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: King of Prussia
Posts: 1,598
Thanked: 8
bulletbass man is a jewel in the rough
Feedback Score: 3 reviews
most people don't use the sliders. A lot who do do so to make one channel better for both rthym and leads. If they have the mids cranked for leads it can make one a little overbearing on rthym so they'll use the mid scoop to cut back when playing rthym. Honestly I never really scoop my mids except a little bit on cleans (though not with the post eq). Honestly the standard Mark scoop can sound quite good, always has worked for Petrucci (only time i Use a mid scoop is when I'm playing Dream theater covers.)
bulletbass man is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-14-2009, 07:49 AM   #37
SS.org Regular
 
CentaurPorn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Fredericton NB
Posts: 1,024
Thanked: 27
CentaurPorn is a glorious beacon of lightCentaurPorn is a glorious beacon of lightCentaurPorn is a glorious beacon of light
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
The mark IV sounds like a Car horn if you don't scoop them a bit on the EQ for your rhythm. I always had mine slightly scooped on the Slider for rhythm and disengaged the eq for leads.
CentaurPorn is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-14-2009, 07:58 AM   #38
look at each other..
 
Unknown Doodl3.2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Montreal
Posts: 3,204
Thanked: 28
Unknown Doodl3.2 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/Unknown Doodl3.2 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/Unknown Doodl3.2 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/Unknown Doodl3.2 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/Unknown Doodl3.2 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/Unknown Doodl3.2 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/Unknown Doodl3.2 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/
Feedback Score: 2 reviews
The "V" disease doesn't apply as much on Mark amps. From my experience with them you still stick out pretty freakin' well even with some mid scoop. Besides, it just sounds ballsier then this new "fad" of djent mid hump crap which sounds just as bad (if not worse) then the old school "scooping and dissapearing in the mix" thing.

I'd love to try out one of the Mark Vs!!! My mark III is my pride and joy

Quote:
Originally Posted by bulletbass man View Post
most people don't use the sliders. A lot who do do so to make one channel better for both rthym and leads. If they have the mids cranked for leads it can make one a little overbearing on rthym so they'll use the mid scoop to cut back when playing rthym. Honestly I never really scoop my mids except a little bit on cleans (though not with the post eq). Honestly the standard Mark scoop can sound quite good, always has worked for Petrucci (only time i Use a mid scoop is when I'm playing Dream theater covers.)
IIRC, Petrucci din't use the standard Mark EQ, he'd scooped the mids but had his high mids set above his highs. That's how I remember him setting up his Mark IV for Systematic Chaos, anyway.


Last edited by Unknown Doodl3.2; 05-14-2009 at 08:01 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Unknown Doodl3.2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-14-2009, 08:01 AM   #39
Cold As Ice
 
HighGain510's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 13,247
Thanked: 265
HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.
Feedback Score: 37 reviews
How are you digging the combo for the high gain rhythm Tom? Open back still keeping things tight enough for modern metal? I'm jealous, I really want to try one of these out.

Guitars: PRS (lots <3), Suhr, Parker, Thorn, Carvin
Rigs: Kemper + Atomic CLR, H&K GrandMeister 36 + Scumback M75's/Hellatone 60's

HighGain510 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-14-2009, 08:06 AM   #40
look at each other..
 
Unknown Doodl3.2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Montreal
Posts: 3,204
Thanked: 28
Unknown Doodl3.2 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/Unknown Doodl3.2 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/Unknown Doodl3.2 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/Unknown Doodl3.2 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/Unknown Doodl3.2 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/Unknown Doodl3.2 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/Unknown Doodl3.2 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/
Feedback Score: 2 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bound View Post
I cannot and will not relate to that philosophy. What would possess someone to cut out the most harmonically rich portion of the instrument right out. And in high gain land you can get some pretty gnarly chugs ripping with tasty tasty mids.
Have you ever played a Mark series amp? They are some of the most mid heavy guitar amps ever made.

Unknown Doodl3.2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-14-2009, 08:09 AM   #41
Cold As Ice
 
HighGain510's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 13,247
Thanked: 265
HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.HighGain510 is an automated shredding machine.
Feedback Score: 37 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknown Doodl3.2 View Post
Have you ever played a Mark series amp? They are some of the most mid heavy guitar amps ever made.
This. I still miss my Mark IV combo.... The cleans on that thing were AWESOME too!

Guitars: PRS (lots <3), Suhr, Parker, Thorn, Carvin
Rigs: Kemper + Atomic CLR, H&K GrandMeister 36 + Scumback M75's/Hellatone 60's

HighGain510 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-15-2009, 07:40 AM   #42
SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS
 
Bound's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Woostah Mass!
Posts: 917
Thanked: 14
Bound is a name known to allBound is a name known to allBound is a name known to allBound is a name known to all
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknown Doodl3.2 View Post
Have you ever played a Mark series amp? They are some of the most mid heavy guitar amps ever made.
Yes I have played a Mark IV. A good friend has one and I definitely didn't have the 750k slider buried into the abyss. I wouldn't call them the 'most' mid heavy either. The mids can get wierd on that amp and you can dial in some strange for sure. There's a couple amps I've played that have impressed me more with punch in the mids than the Mark series, but this is really an arbitrary argument as everyone listens to different things when the play gear.That being said they are very nice punchy amps and I love them, I would just like to see some clips of a Mark IV owner that actually has some common sense about high-gain tones.

But I guess if Yngwie Malmsteems Rising Force is your idea of ultimate tone, than keep diving that 750k slider into nothing.

my mother.... she never loved me. She always says she wishes shes was a raped by someone else ~Borat
Bound is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-15-2009, 07:48 AM   #43
SS Contributor
 
Mattmc74's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Bay City, Michigan
Posts: 13,938
Thanked: 325
Mattmc74 is so metal, he bleeds rust.Mattmc74 is so metal, he bleeds rust.Mattmc74 is so metal, he bleeds rust.Mattmc74 is so metal, he bleeds rust.Mattmc74 is so metal, he bleeds rust.Mattmc74 is so metal, he bleeds rust.Mattmc74 is so metal, he bleeds rust.Mattmc74 is so metal, he bleeds rust.Mattmc74 is so metal, he bleeds rust.Mattmc74 is so metal, he bleeds rust.Mattmc74 is so metal, he bleeds rust.Mattmc74 is so metal, he bleeds rust.Mattmc74 is so metal, he bleeds rust.
Feedback Score: 14 reviews
Congrats. I love Mesa's!

Mattmc74 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:02 PM.


Our Network: PRS Guitar Forum | Luthier Forum | SG Guitar Forum | Les Paul Forum | Marshall Amp Forum | Acoustic Guitar Forum

SS.org proudly supports St. Jude Children's Research Hospital

Copyright © 2004-2014, SevenString.org. All Rights Reserved.