ISP Decimator vs. G-string?

budda · 10-04-2008, 12:43 PM

So i've been tossing around the idea of getting a Decimator to help w/ noise.

there was one up on CL in TO for $75, probably shoulda jumped on that when i saw it. however when debating a $400 tattoo, you hold off on these things

anyway, so i just ebay'd the Decimator to see if any are available. I clicked on the G-string, to see what exactly makes it different then the Decimator.

Is it basically you can run it this way:
guitar-boost-ISP-amp

and have your signal maintained?

I'm not sure i understand the benefits of the G-string, and will pick up the Decimator at some point.

stuh84 · 10-04-2008, 12:54 PM

The benefits are, the noise gate that runs in your effects loop, is controlled by the input signal before it even hits your amp, as you plug it in before the amp. This way, the only thing affecting the noise gate is the actual guitar signal, not the already distorted preamp signal.

budda · 10-04-2008, 01:03 PM

still not sure i get it lol.

how would it look all hooked up?

(im tired, cantcha tell?)

thedownside · 10-04-2008, 01:06 PM

hmmmm, looks like you can run it similar to the boss ns2. run your raw guitar to the in, then loop in the od. i've been meaning to try this with my setup and my ns2, just havent gotten around to messing with it. i'll try it tommorow maybe

stuh84 · 10-04-2008, 01:38 PM

To run the G string you go

Guitar > G string in > amp input
Effects loop > g string loop > Effects loop return

What happens on the input, influences the effects loops gate.

TomAwesome · 10-04-2008, 02:56 PM

Guitar goes into the G-String input, OD and preamp go in the loop. I've also heard that the G-string has the faster gating that was updated on the rack units and never quite made it to the regular pedal version.

Sepultorture · 10-04-2008, 06:32 PM

was this a Decimator pedal or the ProrackG

petereanima · 12-01-2008, 06:33 AM

bumpedy-bump-bump

has anyone A/B-ed the normal Decimator and the G-string pedals yet? i'm aware of the frontofamp+intheloop-function of the G-string, but can anyone confirm the faster-attack thing that Tom mentioned?

i'm ready to pick one of these up, would be good if the normal one works as good as the G-string when its up to attack.

i start to kinda hate the Boss NS-2 - works for me only with very extreme settings and then it starts sucking sustain a LOT, also i start to mention a little "farting" (besides the usual "sag" from my amp, that i love) after stopped palm mutes.

TomAwesome · 12-01-2008, 01:45 PM

Since it's been bumped anyway, does anyone have anything to say about the G-String vs the Pro Rack G?

Sang-Drax · 12-01-2008, 01:58 PM

I'm also curious on this one =)

darren · 12-01-2008, 02:05 PM

I thought the ProRack and G-String were almost identical from a circuitry standpoint.

I'm about to trade my regular Decimator for a G-String because while it does a nice job in front of the amp, once i shut off the boost and switch to the clean channel, it lops off my attack. The G-String will give me the noise suppression i need plus i won't ever have to shut it off.

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10-04-2008, 12:43 PM	#1
budda Guiterrorizer Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London ONT Posts: 18,906 Thanked: 174 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	ISP Decimator vs. G-string? So i've been tossing around the idea of getting a Decimator to help w/ noise. there was one up on CL in TO for $75, probably shoulda jumped on that when i saw it. however when debating a $400 tattoo, you hold off on these things anyway, so i just ebay'd the Decimator to see if any are available. I clicked on the G-string, to see what exactly makes it different then the Decimator. Is it basically you can run it this way: guitar-boost-ISP-amp and have your signal maintained? I'm not sure i understand the benefits of the G-string, and will pick up the Decimator at some point. _______________________ J S Moore pickups: www.tonefordays.com Rock on!

10-04-2008, 12:54 PM	#2
stuh84 The Viking himself Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 3,717 Thanked: 37 $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 2 reviews	The benefits are, the noise gate that runs in your effects loop, is controlled by the input signal before it even hits your amp, as you plug it in before the amp. This way, the only thing affecting the noise gate is the actual guitar signal, not the already distorted preamp signal. End Of Eternity - Symphonic Prog Metal from the UK ¯\(°_o)/¯

10-04-2008, 01:03 PM	#3
budda Guiterrorizer Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London ONT Posts: 18,906 Thanked: 174 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	still not sure i get it lol. how would it look all hooked up? (im tired, cantcha tell?) _______________________ J S Moore pickups: www.tonefordays.com Rock on!

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stuh84 The Viking himself Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 3,717 Thanked: 37 $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ $stuh84 is rather kvlt and tr00. \m/$ Feedback Score: 2 reviews	To run the G string you go Guitar > G string in > amp input Effects loop > g string loop > Effects loop return What happens on the input, influences the effects loops gate. End Of Eternity - Symphonic Prog Metal from the UK ¯\(°_o)/¯

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10-04-2008, 01:06 PM	#4
thedownside SS.org Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Moncton, NB, Canada Posts: 1,165 Thanked: 27 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	hmmmm, looks like you can run it similar to the boss ns2. run your raw guitar to the in, then loop in the od. i've been meaning to try this with my setup and my ns2, just havent gotten around to messing with it. i'll try it tommorow maybe

10-04-2008, 02:56 PM	#6
TomAwesome I LIKE JUICE!!! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,297 Thanked: 43 Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Guitar goes into the G-String input, OD and preamp go in the loop. I've also heard that the G-string has the faster gating that was updated on the rack units and never quite made it to the regular pedal version. "Tom, you're like 1 part a serious dork, and 2 parts the most awesome ....ing guy ever." -

10-04-2008, 06:32 PM	#7
Sepultorture Murder Machine Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oshawa, ON, Canada Posts: 4,531 Thanked: 36 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	was this a Decimator pedal or the ProrackG BEARDS: They Instantly Turn Any Man Into A Badass, It's Like Having Machine Guns On Your Face

12-01-2008, 06:33 AM	#8
petereanima Br00tal Bubbly Mofo Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Austria Posts: 5,415 Thanked: 103 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	bumpedy-bump-bump has anyone A/B-ed the normal Decimator and the G-string pedals yet? i'm aware of the frontofamp+intheloop-function of the G-string, but can anyone confirm the faster-attack thing that Tom mentioned? i'm ready to pick one of these up, would be good if the normal one works as good as the G-string when its up to attack. i start to kinda hate the Boss NS-2 - works for me only with very extreme settings and then it starts sucking sustain a LOT, also i start to mention a little "farting" (besides the usual "sag" from my amp, that i love) after stopped palm mutes.

12-01-2008, 01:45 PM	#9
TomAwesome I LIKE JUICE!!! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,297 Thanked: 43 Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Since it's been bumped anyway, does anyone have anything to say about the G-String vs the Pro Rack G? "Tom, you're like 1 part a serious dork, and 2 parts the most awesome ....ing guy ever." -

12-01-2008, 01:58 PM	#10
Sang-Drax Perhaps Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil Posts: 2,477 Thanked: 27 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I'm also curious on this one =) My signal path: Gibson LP Studio > TS-9 > Lifesound Horizon (Dual Recto + Fender Bassman clone) > POD X3 Live (loop, fx only) > Lifesound custom 2x12" loaded with Eminence Legends I started smoking when I was 13 or 14, I smoke a pack a day now an I wish I could go back in time an kick my own ass. - matt397 After I had surgery and was still drugged I said "Now that you've been inside of me I suppose you won't be calling me back either." - IDLE

12-01-2008, 02:05 PM	#11
darren Decibel Guitars Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Greater Toronto Area, Canada Posts: 11,471 Thanked: 75 Feedback Score: 9 reviews	I thought the ProRack and G-String were almost identical from a circuitry standpoint. I'm about to trade my regular Decimator for a G-String because while it does a nice job in front of the amp, once i shut off the boost and switch to the clean channel, it lops off my attack. The G-String will give me the noise suppression i need plus i won't ever have to shut it off. web \| facebook \| twitter

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