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Old 07-20-2008, 03:44 PM   #1
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Question: Running pedals at higher voltage

Hey guys, first off, I am not very sure as to whether I'm posting this up on the correct subforum. Here goes:

I've been reading up on pedals operating on a higher voltage rather than 9V, giving more headroom, cleaner tone, and stuff like that.

Is it safe to run your typical 9V Battery/Adaptor powered effect (say, an Ibanez TS-7) with a higher voltage (say, 12V) adaptor instead?

Cheers, and thanks in advance. =)
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Old 07-20-2008, 04:19 PM   #2
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I'm not an expert but i don't think you should do that.
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Old 07-20-2008, 05:45 PM   #3
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Most pedals can handle 12v without a problem. The caps used in them are usually 16v or more and everything else can handle it for sure. A lot of people use 18v adapters with TS9's but a few caps have to be changed to 25v to do so. That said I don't know for sure the caps aren't lower voltage in a TS7! Next time I open one up I will take a look but for now I don't recommend trying it.

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Alright guys, duly noted, thanks.

If there's any other info, go ahead and hit it up here too. =)


Update: TS7 Schematic
http://www.geocities.com/diygescorp/ts7.png

Lowest voltage cap used seems to be 16V.
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Old 07-21-2008, 01:55 AM   #5
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i've used a 9.6 volt adaptor on 9 volt pedals, and i've always wondered if it was hurting them, haha. i've noticed the LED usually tends to be a bit brighter.

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Most pedals can handle 12v without a problem. The caps used in them are usually 16v or more and everything else can handle it for sure. A lot of people use 18v adapters with TS9's but a few caps have to be changed to 25v to do so. That said I don't know for sure the caps aren't lower voltage in a TS7! Next time I open one up I will take a look but for now I don't recommend trying it.
hmm, you've got me thinking now... how high of a voltage am i safe to go with with my bloody murder? if you remember what voltage caps you used, haha.

its an early one if it matters, #15
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Old 07-21-2008, 06:22 AM   #6
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Alright guys, duly noted, thanks.

If there's any other info, go ahead and hit it up here too. =)


Update: TS7 Schematic
http://www.geocities.com/diygescorp/ts7.png

Lowest voltage cap used seems to be 16V.
Yea, I forgot I had a schematic to look at 16v is the lowest so a 12V adapter should be fine.

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i've used a 9.6 volt adaptor on 9 volt pedals, and i've always wondered if it was hurting them, haha. i've noticed the LED usually tends to be a bit brighter.



hmm, you've got me thinking now... how high of a voltage am i safe to go with with my bloody murder? if you remember what voltage caps you used, haha.

its an early one if it matters, #15
They should all be 25v or 50v. There's only three of them in there and I went through a few brands/types when over time. Open it up and look! The cylindrical metal caps are the only ones that matter and they'll tell you the voltage on the side.
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Okay, duly noted!

Makes me feel like opening up my landmine distortion to take a look too. lol.
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Yea, I forgot I had a schematic to look at 16v is the lowest so a 12V adapter should be fine.



They should all be 25v or 50v. There's only three of them in there and I went through a few brands/types when over time. Open it up and look! The cylindrical metal caps are the only ones that matter and they'll tell you the voltage on the side.
awesome!

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Hmmmm just thought I'll shoot another question related to the topic.

Are caps the only responsible factor for running a pedal at a higher voltage than usual (of course, I don't mean to the extent of running it at 100V, that would be insane! =P)?
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Hmmmm just thought I'll shoot another question related to the topic.

Are caps the only responsible factor for running a pedal at a higher voltage than usual (of course, I don't mean to the extent of running it at 100V, that would be insane! =P)?
Pretty much. Resistors aren't voltage sensitive and diodes are usually good for at least 50. I don't know the voltage specs on the transistors in that pedal and I'm too lazy to dig up their data sheets right now but they'll be fine. I know for a fact the opamp can handle it.

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